UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #17

[Blonderabbit]

Surely someone who kept their slippers by the front door wouldn't dream of pushing their bike through the house

Did she go on her bike on the 18th?

 

[Blonderabbit]

If you were worried about it getting wet or stolen you might decide moping tyre marks off the floor was a small price to pay. I guess her kitchen floor was a surface easily cleaned like tiles. However if she had a bike why did she walk to work

Maybe it didn’t have lights

 

[susie sixpence]

If she went on her bike there would be evidence on one of the cctv's either the side road or costcutters, which ever way she went. I doubt she would want to cycle to work if she occasionally got a lift home with a colleague. Was her bike ok, could have a puncture etc.

 

[cortina]

I think the initial evidence was she left for work and the sightings were on her route and outside the university - which took the investigation away from her house. We all make mistakes. I understand it and I think the review team identified this weakness in the initial investigation.

I think you're right about the initial stages of the investigation, but it still took too long after they first thought a different scenario could be possible...but, as you say, everyone. makes mistakes

 

[cortina]

I. think the only way well find out exactly what happened will be

1 if remains are found....which seems unlikely.
2 if someone who. knows who is about to be found guilty of a drugs related offence which would involve a prison sentence does a. deal....this would depend on who they would implicate....they wouldn't do it if it was someone with enough influence to organise their death outside prison.

 

[cortina]

its a difficult question, but would you rather get justice. for Claudia, even if it was an accidental killing, if the price was letting someone. go whose drug dealing may have led to. the deaths of tens or more of people

 

[Woodburnbay]

She could have, but why would she? She’s single. Plus why is her slippers by the front door if she went out the back (and in the back) why is her rucksack gone - surely if she was in HP - she could nip back in the morning before work?. Why the activity at the front of her house at 8.23-9.01pm on March 18th? - for me the HP concept is a difficult one. My only thoughts is it could have been used to hide her body for removal

Answers to your questions Blonde Rabbit:

Q Why would she, she's single
A What does her marital status do with leaving by the back door?

Q Why is her slippers by the back door
A Stagged by someone else or perhaps she was wearing outdoor shoes

Q She could nip back in the morning before work for her rucksack
A She could if she was able to but not if held against her will or deceased

Q Why the activity at the front of her house at 8.23-901 on March 18th
A Could be completely unrelated to Claudia

 

[curiosity2]

Answers to your questions Blonde Rabbit:

Q Why would she, she's single
A What does her marital status do with leaving by the back door?

Q Why is her slippers by the back door
A Stagged by someone else or perhaps she was wearing outdoor shoes

Q She could nip back in the morning before work for her rucksack
A She could if she was able to but not if held against her will or deceased

Q Why the activity at the front of her house at 8.23-901 on March 18th
A Could be completely unrelated to Claudia

Thought her slippers were just Inside her front door

 

[Blonderabbit]

If she went on her bike there would be evidence on one of the cctv's either the side road or costcutters, which ever way she went. I doubt she would want to cycle to work if she occasionally got a lift home with a colleague. Was her bike ok, could have a puncture etc.

Answers to your questions Blonde Rabbit:

Q Why would she, she's single
A What does her marital status do with leaving by the back door?

Q Why is her slippers by the back door
A Stagged by someone else or perhaps she was wearing outdoor shoes

Q She could nip back in the morning before work for her rucksack
A She could if she was able to but not if held against her will or deceased

Q Why the activity at the front of her house at 8.23-901 on March 18th
A Could be completely unrelated to Claudia

Think you should re read my post you refer to.
Her slippers are inside the front door. She’s not attached as far as we know - so no need to hide out the back. at the very time she disappears from any form of communication there’s activity at the front of her house it seem highly likely connected. Possibly not tho odds on fav. And if you look at the police case and strategy - they released cctv from the bus of exactly this activity - not for the nation but to show the perps - they’re on camera!

 

[Woodburnbay]

Thought her slippers were just Inside her front

 

[Woodburnbay]

Think you should re read my post you refer to.
Her slippers are inside the front door. She’s not attached as far as we know - so no need to hide out the back. at the very time she disappears from any form of communication there’s activity at the front of her house it seem highly likely connected. Possibly not tho odds on fav. And if you look at the police case and strategy - they released cctv from the bus of exactly this activity - not for the nation but to show the perps - they’re on camera!

I agree that bus cctv was released and showed activity, which could be related.
If Claudia had slipped out the back and into the rear of a house in HP, she could be hiding, hence why there was activity shown by bus cctv and alley man activity.

Were they looking for her and did they find her.

Police also showcased the search of the house in HP where "Mr Big" was heard to be mentioned.

 

[Woodburnbay]

Many have focused upon those arrested as being responsible for her disappearance.
But it is possible that those people who were her friends were trying to protect her from others who wished her more harm and in doing so they put themselves in the suspect limelight.
The police arrest could well have been deliberately staged to worry those who were responsible, in case they spilt the beans.
IMO.

 

[Popejohn3]

I can only speak for myself but, although I cycle a lot, id rather walk if it were dark, bad weather and or a very busy road...but I dont believe she set out for work that day.
having been away for so long, ive forgotten a few things....when we talk about alley man, are we talking about the man caught on cctv possibly with a rucksack etc...

Yes we are I believe and Driscoll referred to his walking gait and believed he was not from the area.

 

[cortina]

Answers to your questions Blonde Rabbit:

Q Why would she, she's single
A What does her marital status do with leaving by the back door?

Q Why is her slippers by the back door
A Stagged by someone else or perhaps she was wearing outdoor shoes

Q She could nip back in the morning before work for her rucksack
A She could if she was able to but not if held against her will or deceased

Q Why the activity at the front of her house at 8.23-901 on March 18th
A Could be completely unrelated to Cl

sorry...did this in error and can't get rid of it

 

[cortina]

Yes we are I believe and Driscoll referred to his walking gait and believed he was not from the area.

hello John...greetings. from not Cambridge and thanks. for your. reply.

I thought it. had been more or less decided that. this was someone from the area who is no longer with. us

 

[cortina]

Many have focused upon those arrested as being responsible for her disappearance.
But it is possible that those people who were her friends were trying to protect her from others who wished her more harm and in doing so they put themselves in the suspect limelight.
The police arrest could well have been deliberately staged to worry those who were responsible, in case they spilt the beans.
IMO.

I dont know if any of those people are responsible but I believe they know more than they're saying.

 

[cortina]

Many have focused upon those arrested as being responsible for her disappearance.
But it is possible that those people who were her friends were trying to protect her from others who wished her more harm and in doing so they put themselves in the suspect limelight.
The police arrest could well have been deliberately staged to worry those who were responsible, in case they spilt the beans.
IMO.

if your theory is. correct, it would have taken the best police protection in the world to make them spill the beans

 

[Blonderabbit]

Many have focused upon those arrested as being responsible for her disappearance.
But it is possible that those people who were her friends were trying to protect her from others who wished her more harm and in doing so they put themselves in the suspect limelight.
The police arrest could well have been deliberately staged to worry those who were responsible, in case they spilt the beans.
IMO.

Nooo I completely disagree. The main evidence against the 4 is to do with their mobile phones and how they moved within the “golden hours” Claudias phone was only basic but it did have Bluetooth and I think in a very crude way it could be seen on other more advanced handsets - linking via Bluetooth.. back in 2009 Bluetooth had a limited range - perhaps 10feet. How do you explain your phone linking h to a phone of a person who hasn’t turned up to work? Or linking to your phone as it’s turned off?

 

[cortina]

I dont really. buy the idea of the. Haworth lot protecting Claudia...theyd. have had. to have had good forewarning that something was going to. happen and, as they were. known as her friends, I don't think they'd have been told.

I only. know York as a tourist, but does anyone know if there would be rival drug dealing in a comb and Hew worth...just wondering. if. Claudia was. fraternising with the enemy

 

[cortina]

Hew worth. not Haworth....the computer is. obviously a. Bronte fan...I also have to. type a. comb...grrr