I don't think it's cold at all - but they did announce they'd stepped down resources within months of Claudia going missing - unfortunately looking at stats, the likelihood of someone being alive at that stage is slim. They usually resort to observation and intelligence to try and nab killers after that time. But we don't know. Some suspect she might be elsewhere.
I'm afraid I always thought these morning stories seemed a bit bogus, a distraction - or else well-meaning people who didn't know Claudia, as PL said.
I think they arranged to meet the following night - that's how Jen was made aware something was up? As her not turning up was out of character?
The case you mention is horrific. If Busick did it, 15 years isn't much for the killing of four people.So horrendous that some mad person was in their midst and got away with it. I do think the case is different though. A small town Oklahoma isn't inner-'city' ancient town York where everyone knows each other. Claudia lived practically right next to the pub. Her workplace was half an hour's walk away, and we know her car was in the garage so any car parked up was someone else's car - whether for her, or someone else.There is also the frustration of not knowing, as Claudia's mother said: we have no body, so her parents couldn't even mourn. There would at least be some forensics. Which also suggests to me that in Claudia's case she may have been taken elsewhere - perhaps in a car - and as the last activity on her phone is in Acomb it suggests framing someone else who lives there or trying to indicate signs of life after she died (sorry) - perhaps the night before, as there were no texts or to anyone after, was it 9.03pm on 18th March?I follow this case off and on, but rarely post. I'm not familiar with that area of the UK having only been to Scotland so there is little I can contribute. I did find the statement by the senior investigator to be interesting. "Several" persons know or suspect what happened to her. Not 'a person', but 'several'.
Claudia Lawrence’s mother appeals for help 13 years after disappearance
Joan Lawrence will ‘never give up on hope’ that mystery of 35-year-old going missing in 2009 can be solvedwww.theguardian.com
It makes me wonder what he has come across that has led him to multiple persons. The more people who know the harder it is to keep a secret. Makes me think of one case here in the US. Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman in 1999. There wasn't an arrest till 2018, but afterwards it was learned that several persons heard who did it and that there were even photos of the girls before they were murdered. People had known or suspected for years before the arrest. Granted this is small town USA in Oklahoma and not North Yorkshire UK. But I do wonder what an experienced investigator in North Yorkshire has come across to lead him in search of multiple parties.
Murders of Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman - Wikipedia
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Yes, Suzy comes across as really genuine.
Oh my god. That's horrendous. I can't find the story. Do you have a link?
Or at least add lighter/blond streaks, as in the photo below - though I would guess having assistance would make it easier to do it evenly around the back.
I"m afriad I don't care about the hair or the dye. IT's a red herring. She had blonde highlights but it was more like bronde - she possibly dyed her hair at the roots herself at some point. I just don't see how this is relevant to anything.
I've often wondered if Jk was the intended victim, but CL was abducted in a case of mistaken identity. Bearing in mind that I understand Jk had lodged with CL after fleeing with nothing from a bad relationship
Or at least add lighter/blond streaks, as in the photo below - though I would guess having assistance would make it easier to do it evenly around the back.
Claudia Lawrence would be 40 next week - and her sister would love to give her a birthday hug
Despite a huge police hunt and numerous appeals, the York chef’s disappearance five years ago remains a mystery - her family are still desperate for informationwww.mirror.co.uk
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Is so Jk would have an inkling as to why someone wished her harm !
Hi, I saw the Arin Stoner thing the other week when looking up the timeline of the police's footage (also availabl ein timestamp order on Youtube) - but Arrin Stoner loses me half an hour in when he goes so forcefully towards Chris Halliwell (also I find the Netflix/channel 5 music in poor taste). Up until that point (and all the rubbish blurry photos), his analysis seems quite even-handed and aware of things we've all discussed. But it's a little too neat to place it all on Chris Halliwell. I'm not saying he didn't do it, but some killers long for infamy and it's abut like with terrorism as even when the main perps have all died they put blame on someone they know had sympathies just to tie everything up with a pretty bow. I think Arrin's contribution is considerable in terms of thinking about and presenting the information all in one place, but there is a tendency towards seeing conclusions where there aren't any. That's the difficulty with this case. I don't think these people ( I think there is more than one) are criminal masterminds. I think something quite terrible has happened and there's been a cover-up by several people. I was interested in the remidner, for instance, that Alleyman comes back each time after about a minute. It made me wonder if he knew Claudia was at home each time? Has he tried the back door, and it was locked each time? Then he sees her leave at the front, as someone may have told him she would? Thinking about it - if she had visited friends in Cheshire met in Cuban holiday ( I refuse to use the phrase 'group of men' as the Mirror seems a bit too keen to cast Claudia in a certain light) - is it possible one of these men foudn out these details of her daily routine? Was Jen there in Cheshire with her? Claudia had worked 12 days in a row and was planning to book a hol with Jen in Cyprus. Is it possible a killer then visited knowing Claudia's routine or thinking Jen would be alone in the house instead/too? I also now have questions about whether something happened to her on the evening of the 18th, or, as footage suggests (with the figure in the far distance) she was followed to work. I still think if the car that pulled up outside her house on the evening of 18th March that had something to do with it. If she was taken, did she grab her bag or discard it in order to show she was taken? Her father being a lawyer for the CPS she perhaps knew of cases in the past where women tried to show where they were? I find it all so confusing.
Oh wait, hang on. Repeatedly it's said in reports that people locally/friends knew that Claudia went to bed around 9pm to get up to walk to work at 5am the following day (while her car was in the garage at least, and for a bit of exercise, as she said she hated gyms). If someone local or from elsewhere had determined this by either being in the pub and asking or seeing her at work and asking, an unknown person could have planned an attack. What if they carried their weapon in a rucksack (Halliwell is known for appalling knife attacks and dismemberment, but it could have been something else and someone else), and, as someone said they thought they could access the house at the back but it was locked? Then he goes back in the morning, knowing she will leave the house at 5am and follows her? Would her route have been to turn right past the pub? That's not the right direction for me. In the morning, she owuld have gone back towards Melrosegate. So maybe Alleyway guy in the morning is not unrelated, but not the killer? let me have your worst. I'm genuinely trying to piece it together. It's such a worrying case. I should probably take a break....
Yes, what kind of 'bad relationship' it was is key. Also, the Mirror story just talking about the 'group of men' Claudia went to visit in Cheshire that she'd met in holiday in Cuba, how 'beautiful' Claudia's friend Jen remembered her being, how universally loved she was, and then saying that random thing about a guy coming into the pub with pictures of her bag and things was just strange. Could it have been placed story? An appeal by police for more info? Seems like irresponsible reporting otherwise.
I may be revising my opinion about this. Argh.
Oh Christ. Horrific.
