UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #18

[susie sixpence]

How big is this park ? Was it ever searched ?

Smallish ends in a car park in an estate. You would have thought so but I don't know.

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

I'm not really knowing, what I see. Why does it appear, CL has something like a scarf around the lower half of her face?

There are images either side of this one - dont worry about a single pic having to tell the whole story as the action didn't all happen in 1/24 of a sec (a frame). And don't stop asking questions as I'm sure the Police will want to see what-ever you're asking about too.

Scenarion#1: (on right) Beth Horwell with a shorter dark-haired friend/sister (on the left) Claudia between them.
Scenario#2: JK on right (only saying this as one frame looks exactly like her)UK - UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #18, PR(male)lunging with back to them both. Shielding them.


UK - UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #18

 

[susie sixpence]

Unfortunately the cold case rule out things that a computer says are not relevant instead of good old policing.

 

[Popejohn3]

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UK - UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #18

Please answer our question
Is that Claudia circled in green walking towards the uni on the 19 th ?
Did cold case confirm or deny this ?
If not her who is it ?

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

Please answer our question
Is that Claudia circled in green walking towards the uni on the 19 th ?
Did cold case confirm or deny this ?
If not her who is it ?

Cold-Case totally dismissed the footage saying she was alive after this time. So I dropped further enhancements of the footage and focused on the BUS CCTV footage.

 

[susie sixpence]

Cold-Case totally dismissed the footage saying she was alive after this time. So I dropped further enhancements of the footage and focused on the BUS CCTV footage.

But the bus footage is the night before the Melrosegate CCTV. They don't have the Shell garage footage because they were too late asking for it and it was recorded over.

 

[Popejohn3]

Cold-Case totally dismissed the footage saying she was alive after this time. So I dropped further enhancements of the footage and focused on the BUS CCTV footage.

Im not with you I’m afraid what footage are you talking about ?
Is that her walking towards the Uni in the morning of the 19 ?

 

[Popejohn3]

duplication

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

But the bus footage is the night before the Melrosegate CCTV. They don't have the Shell garage footage because they were too late asking for it and it was recorded over.

I'm guessing they have a lot of data on ONE suspect (even if its the WRONG ONE) and they just need the FINAL NAIL to drive their case home...

BUT... I'm glad as this whole turnaround made me revisit the BUS CCTV (which I have studied twice before without seeing what i just found this 3rd time around x) I was lookng on the wrong side of the road xX I was looking in the wrong place. And now Eureka.

 

[leuraman]

But the bus footage is the night before the Melrosegate CCTV. They don't have the Shell garage footage because they were too late asking for it and it was recorded over.

Very confused about all this, the woman in green was from the 19th and cold case say they have proof of life after this?

 

[susie sixpence]

Very confused about all this, the woman in green was from the 19th and cold case say they have proof of life after this?

Yes the woman in green if it is her is from the 19th, the bus footage is from the night of the 18th. If the green woman carried on down Melrosegate on the 19th towards the Uni she would pass the Shell station on that side of the road. No CCTV footage is available as it was recorded over.

 

[Popejohn3]

Very confused about all this, the woman in green was from the 19th and cold case say they have proof of life after this?

Something is not right here!

Yes the woman in green if it is her is from the 19th, the bus footage is from the night of the 18th. If the green woman carried on down Melrosegate on the 19th towards the Uni she would pass the Shell station on that side of the road. No CCTV footage is available as it was recorded over.

I suppose that is the ‘frustrating ‘part the investigation as the police have said

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

Very confused about all this, the woman in green was from the 19th and cold case say they have proof of life after this?

Confused me too. But I accepted it. (It may not fit the agenda of framing their PRIME SUSPECT)

I hear you all talking about woman in green. My comment on this is... noone knows if it is a man or a woman. In fact when I looked at it... (I'll shut up x) Nip this in the bud x

 

[susie sixpence]

Confused me too. But I accepted it. (It may not fit the agenda of framing their PRIME SUSPECT)

I hear you all talking about woman in green. My comment on this is... noone knows if it is a man or a woman. In fact when I looked at it... (I'll shut up x) Nip this in the bud x

It looks like a man? I think it looks like a woman.

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

My idea: Put Beth Horwell and Jen King in a room together (bring them both in for questioning (call it a 'review'..at the same time... watch them stew) ...watch the CHEMISTRY...

One may be VERY angry with the other one. That is if one is more guilty than the other. One may be innocent and very unhappy. One may be guilty. Who knows but lets fkin see eh??? xX Make it so... Picard.

 

[Popejohn3]

I have

Confused me too. But I accepted it. (It may not fit the agenda of framing their PRIME SUSPECT)

I hear you all talking about woman in green. My comment on this is... noone knows if it is a man or a woman. In fact when I looked at it... (I'll shut up x) Nip this in the bud x

no don’t shut up
You started all this . Please tell us ! Do you think the person circuled in green ( walking towards the uni on the 19 )is Claudia ?
Btw I was also told by cold case not to believe everything I read on social media . It sounds like this is a standard reply
I phoned them once or twice and not once did they say to me ‘ hang on I’ll have to check this out ‘
after all it is such a big complex case !

 

[Blonderabbit]

Care to share?

Yes no problem, early in my investigation I did wonder if the footage could have been Claudia (alleyman) when you break down the footage into frames - there are a number of frames when the person appears female. However when you view it as a whole and in context with additional footage it’s a man. When I looked at the microsite I found some evidence which I thought may be inaccurate - I was able to confirm this with cold case. The microsite is gone now of course.

When I reflect I absorbed lots and lots of information in the first few years, however now there’s rarely anything new to discover. When I look at WS - it’s the same someone new starts going over what’s new to them, it can be good because you can look at fresh perspectives, though it can be frustrating flogging dead horses like Haliwell, Cartwright etc etc
Cold case are busy people stretched, so time is a premium, however I’m sure they’d welcome something which may help them solve this mystery

 

[Mali1234]

If these deranged mental case murderer's, after committing their first serious offence, we're just sent to chop Square in Saudi, (in an ideal world), instead of being released into communities, giving them further opportunity's, too commit further serious offence's, then we wouldn't be here now on this forum, especially when these are prolific offender's. The Goverment and Parole board aswell as Police have made a serious mistake releasing this mental case. Hopefully he will get nailed eventually and put away forever where he belongs

 

[SanT88]

Hi all. New here so forgive me if I cover anything that’s already been gone over. I’m putting together a few thoughts but whilst I double check I noticed the following regarding the alley man cctv. The time stamp says 5:07am to 5:08 am but on the crimewatch video the policeman says the time was actually 5:50am (ten to 6). Could he have misspoken or is the cctv time stamp wrong?

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[Blonderabbit]

If these deranged mental case murderer's, after committing their first serious offence, we're just sent to chop Square in Saudi, (in an ideal world), instead of being released into communities, giving them further opportunity's, too commit further serious offence's, then we wouldn't be here now on this forum, especially when these are prolific offender's. The Goverment and Parole board aswell as Police have made a serious mistake releasing this mental case. Hopefully he will get nailed eventually and put away forever where he belongs

Thing is will the police get him before old age?