UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #19

[Popejohn3]

Apart from Mr Whitehand, Claudia was partial to married men. Why do you seem to suggest the new boyfriend is single, what about if he was one of the 4? …….

Well they all knew her and no point in hiding the fact one was seeing her

 

[leuraman]

Try as I might, I cannot link any of the POI with drugs, not by name and not by addresses so unless something new comes to light I do not think drugs are connected, certainly as far as the main protagonists are concerned. Still struggling to see why any of these individuals would involve themselves with drugs, they seem to have good businesses or jobs and to me I think they are probably wronged by groundless accusations. I'm looking elsewhere for answers.

 

[Blonderabbit]

Well they all knew her and no point in hiding the fact one was seeing her

One pj3 or three?

 

[Pinkizzy]

I suggest that the car in front of the Ranger (near Nags Head) is a Megane 3 door

 

[shadwell]

Try as I might, I cannot link any of the POI with drugs, not by name and not by addresses so unless something new comes to light I do not think drugs are connected, certainly as far as the main protagonists are concerned. Still struggling to see why any of these individuals would involve themselves with drugs, they seem to have good businesses or jobs and to me I think they are probably wronged by groundless accusations. I'm looking elsewhere for answers.

Same here. My feeling re this is that people involved in drug dealing at the level that gets people killed don’t have day jobs on the side.

 

[Pinkizzy]

It doesn't take much time to travel from London to York, I suggest a few Eastend drug dealers have taken Claudia

 

[Becci]

Yest i came across an article which i'd never heard of before.
Robin garbutt a postmaster jailed for killing his wife.
I think he could be innocent from all read.
On the 17.03.09 he reported an armed robbery so there i went down a rabbit hole.
At the end of it all i realised from a map its over an hrs drive away from york.

 

[Blonderabbit]

Same here. My feeling re this is that people involved in drug dealing at the level that gets people killed don’t have day jobs on the side.

Pinkizzy put forward a vehicle which gave me an idea - we can’t identify the car in front of the suv, so how about looking at the addresses of the poi’s in 2009/8 and see what kind of vehicles may match. Perhaps look at business address connected as well.

 

[susie sixpence]

Yest i came across an article which i'd never heard of before.
Robin garbutt a postmaster jailed for killing his wife.
I think he could be innocent from all read.
On the 17.03.09 he reported an armed robbery so there i went down a rabbit hole.
At the end of it all i realised from a map its over an hrs drive away from york.

You might find this interesting Robin Garbutt Official

 

[Becci]

You might find this interesting Robin Garbutt Official

Cheers. Did find find the odd similar features. Like married lovers, exc..
At one point i thought info was been jumbled with claudia.
Trips to amsterdam & im sure thats a siting of cl which came to nothing.
Just little bits here n there

 

[Becci]

Ive found an old article which i found interesting.
An unnamed "he" describing claudia.
Seems slightly bitter & said she was good at her job & knew her about 8yrs.
I presume from been nosey browsing major lang medium she worked with anthony newby kitchen porter in a hotel but they remained friends when she got the job at york university.
PH said she was in his pub in accomb 3wks prior with ant.
Other articles i see say he was a kitchen porter at york university so how ironic would that be if true.
Police seemed to have made the most out of that statement from the anonymous person.
Im interested in seeing his appearance & car from that time.
Revealed: Missing chef Claudia's '40 different men' Revealed: Missing chef Claudia's '40 different men'

 

[Becci]

Sorry for my over thinking brain.
PH got arrested for perverting the course of justice.
Is that by saying she was at his pub with ant.
Funny how his name or arrest aint come about & he heard she was seeing a policeman.
Makes me wonder whether he knows the policemans name. The policeman doesnt want to look suspicious but at the same time is suspicious of him.
Cover up perhaps?

 

[Becci]

That is really bad to me.
Throwing suspicion all angles.
That article i sent link to earlier i'm on about.

 

[Pinkizzy]

I think PH hid someone's bracelet without telling the police or something like that

 

[Becci]

I think PH hid someone's bracelet without telling the police or something like that

Yeah that rings a bell lol
A.N how did he get ruled out.
If its right info I've seen maybe he had same shift & took her or met her on route.
He was her friend who she met working & neil roots book says this to. He's the only 1 to write like that from all i've read.
Family & other friends say that doesn't sound like claudia.
He gave all kinds of reasons as to what may have happened, going away on her own, newcastle, affairs exc..
Can't find 1 image of him or anything else

 

[Blonderabbit]

Yeah that rings a bell lol
A.N how did he get ruled out.
If its right info I've seen maybe he had same shift & took her or met her on route.
He was her friend who she met working & neil roots book says this to. He's the only 1 to write like that from all i've read.
Family & other friends say that doesn't sound like claudia.
He gave all kinds of reasons as to what may have happened, going away on her own, newcastle, affairs exc..
Can't find 1 image of him or anything else

There are images of him kicking about - it’s weird as when I looked at him - I read about him first and his picture wasn’t the image I’d created in my mind.

 

[shadwell]

I think PH hid someone's bracelet without telling the police or something like that

A gold bracelet found in his car? He gave the police one explanation, his wife contradicted it IIRC.

 

[Becci]

There are images of him kicking about - it’s weird as when I looked at him - I read about him first and his picture wasn’t the image I’d created in my mind.

Yeah i just found 1 & 1 only lol
Seems to me he was throwing red herrings all over the place.
He wanted to be anonymous i bet.

 

[Becci]

To me it seems for some reason he's been forgotten.
Almost like he could be related to one of the force godnose.
He could easily of made the policeman thing up himself for all we know
Then again he mite have a good alibi

 

[Blonderabbit]

Same here. My feeling re this is that people involved in drug dealing at the level that gets people killed don’t have day jobs on the side.

I’d like to pick up this point if I may (with respect) firstly just because they have businesses against their names and they look as if they are builders/glazing/locksmiths etc doesn’t necessarily mean anything more than a bit of theatre plus it’s a way to launder dirty money. Secondly we seem to have moved from a police case against 4 friends to a kitchen Porter.
There is a lot to get over to eliminate them. It has been said by one sleuth recently that they No commented answers, the police think people close to Claudia are lying or not being totally honest, reporters threatened! The cctv footage. If you’ve studied the case there are so many pieces which seem odd and make you curious.
I cannot believe Claudia was killed because she pulled a face behind someone’s back - I think A.N. paints a true picture of what Claudia could be like in drink, though even the worst of her behaviour isn’t to be killed for by a so called close friend. So for me there’s more than meets the eye - I still think drugs could be a feature. What I wonder is if you or I was convicted of drugs offences and we served time - how would you find out if it wasn’t in msm?