UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #4

[Pinkizzy]

Can someone draw a mindmap about Claudia?

 

[MajorLang]

Can someone draw a mindmap about Claudia?

I think it's a great idea @Pinkizzy I'm just not good at that stuff-Any offers?

 

[Draven]

Can someone draw a mindmap about Claudia?

It’s a very good idea @Pinkizzy, like @MajorLang, I’m useless at those things

 

[MajorLang]

Claudia liked to have a sun tan
She was going on holiday
She had a sunbed in her back bedroom
Could the ultra violet rays be seen from Heworth Place
Would this signal that she was home
Was that what Dark person was looking for

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Claudia liked to have a sun tan
She was going on holiday
She had a sunbed in her back bedroom
Could the ultra violet rays be seen from Heworth Place
Would this signal that she was home
Was that what Dark person was looking for

Dark person in the too early morning I wouldn't expect to look for that.

 

[MajorLang]

Dark person in the too early morning I wouldn't expect to look for that.

No, I was suggesting the evening. The early morning they may have been checking to see if she was home and ready for work?

 

[Draven]

No, I was suggesting the evening. The early morning they may have been checking to see if she was home and ready for work?

Are you thinking alone the lines of night check, see she was home & not away with someone else & morning to check she was up & preparing to leave for work, to get her @MajorLang?

 

[MajorLang]

Are you thinking alone the lines of night check, see she was home & not away with someone else & morning to check she was up & preparing to leave for work, to get her @MajorLang?

Yes, I am not saying the dark person was guilty but perhaps an admirer who was staying over at Nags. @moonsafari may be able to help here. Ray the chef was away on holiday. I think it was Jim Melsom wh let the draymen in early.
Did Jum double up or cover as Chef when Ray was away. If he did then although Jim was a portly chap, could this have been him or perhaps one of Bar staff?

 

[MajorLang]

A comment on FB got me thinking again about the CCTV footage of the person walking into Heworth Place.
We know that of the 5 cameras at the Limes, only two were chosen to show footage.
1. The braking car in the morning
2. The person walking into Heworth Place

The Braking car footage came from a camera at the front of the Limes-Facing Heworth Road
The person in Heworth Place came from camera in Limes car park


What is interesting here though is that the braking car camera could have been used to show the face-Full on of the person walking into Heworth Place-If the police really wanted to get people to come forward, why didn't they do a screen shot of that footage and show the person????

I attach a screen shot of what they could have shown but didnt?

 

[Draven]

A comment on FB got me thinking again about the CCTV footage of the person walking into Heworth Place.
We know that of the 5 cameras at the Limes, only two were chosen to show footage.
1. The braking car in the morning
2. The person walking into Heworth Place

The Braking car footage came from a camera at the front of the Limes-Facing Heworth Road
The person in Heworth Place came from camera in Limes car park


What is interesting here though is that the braking car camera could have been used to show the face-Full on of the person walking into Heworth Place-If the police really wanted to get people to come forward, why didn't they do a screen shot of that footage and show the person????

I attach a screen shot of what they could have shown but didnt?

I have often thought about the other cameras and what they picked up, I’m sure the police must have the images you mention @MajorLang, maybe it was these that got the poi, but not clear enough to positively identify it as 1 of them?

 

[Pinkizzy]

@MajorLang Yes, I agree. The man may have crossed the road, jumped out of a car, walked past Claudia's house...before turning into Heworth Place

 

[MajorLang]

@MajorLang Yes, I agree. The man may have crossed the road, jumped out of a car, walked past Claudia's house...before turning into Heworth Place

And today on FB there was a very good case put forward that the Dark Person was possibly Claudia-Unlikely but if not who was the female ???????!

 

[Pinkizzy]

She may have faked her own death?

 

[MajorLang]

She may have faked her own death?

Everyone says that she wouldn't put her family through this. But sometimes it is difficult to work out the mind of someone.

How many people have committed suicide and this has come as a total shock to their loved ones?

 

[x_caz_x]

Everyone says that she wouldn't put her family through this. But sometimes it is difficult to work out the mind of someone.

How many people have committed suicide and this has come as a total shock to their loved ones?

This is true. All possibilities should be explored, otherwise the truth may never come out. The fact that she changed her usual routine prior to her disappearance (e.g not going to the pub as often), does give an indication that may has choosen to leave of her own accord. Having said that, there are so, so many unanswered questions, that suggest this is not the case

 

[Draven]

This is true. All possibilities should be explored, otherwise the truth may never come out. The fact that she changed her usual routine prior to her disappearance (e.g not going to the pub as often), does give an indication that may has choosen to leave of her own accord. Having said that, there are so, so many unanswered questions, that suggest this is not the case

My thoughts on the change of routine, did something happen between CL and some others? In the nags head, all getting tipsy, then boom, no visits to nags & would appear things might’ve been strained between her & a certain other.
Did something happen over that Cheltenham race weekend, something someone, didn’t want coming out?

 

[Yozzer]

And today on FB there was a very good case put forward that the Dark Person was possibly Claudia-Unlikely but if not who was the female ???????!

Which female are you referring to @MajorLang ?

 

[MajorLang]

Which female are you referring to @MajorLang ?

That it was possibly a female in heworth Place

 

[x_caz_x]

Another thought regarding the CCTV images...
Are we being blinded here?
We are all assuming that the Dark clothed person walking into Heworth Place, is the same Dark clothed person leaving Heworth Place a short time later, but what if those images a minute or so apart are actually 2 different people? In those images, it does not look as if the person walking into Heworth Place is carrying anything, but when leaving they possibly are.
So, consider this - Dark Person 1 goes into the alleyway via Heworth Place, but Dark Person 2 goes into the alleyway via the Nags Head Car Park... Dark Person 1 leaves via the Nags Head Car Park and Dark Person 2 leaves via Heworth Place.
What if this was a drug exchange (or other illegal activity) happening, either in the alleyway or car park... Could Claudia have heard a commotion while she was in the bathroom and gone outside to investigate? Recognise the person(s) involved and she then become a target for what she had seen?

 

[MajorLang]

Another thought regarding the CCTV images...
Are we being blinded here?
We are all assuming that the Dark clothed person walking into Heworth Place, is the same Dark clothed person leaving Heworth Place a short time later, but what if those images a minute or so apart are actually 2 different people? In those images, it does not look as if the person walking into Heworth Place is carrying anything, but when leaving they possibly are.
So, consider this - Dark Person 1 goes into the alleyway via Heworth Place, but Dark Person 2 goes into the alleyway via the Nags Head Car Park... Dark Person 1 leaves via the Nags Head Car Park and Dark Person 2 leaves via Heworth Place.
What if this was a drug exchange (or other illegal activity) happening, either in the alleyway or car park... Could Claudia have heard a commotion while she was in the bathroom and gone outside to investigate? Recognise the person(s) involved and she then become a target for what she had seen?

I like your thinking and isn't it great to have some fresh eyes on the case