UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #6

[MajorLang]

That's a very fair analysis.

My main thoughts before were that he was an interesting outsider, seems to murder women on 19th March which is a feature of serial killer, had links up north with his Dad (York isn't that far from Huddersfield) and that eye witness sighting who was convinced it was Halliwell talking to CL when his picture started to get circulated in the media in 2011.

Ultimately though if he was at some centre on the day CL went missing and the police have double checked it then there's little to see.

But he was only convicted of killing 2 women and only one on the same day as Claudia went missing.
Have never understood how he could ever be considered.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

But he was only convicted of killing 3 women and only one on the same day as Claudia went missing.
Have never understood how he could ever be considered.

He didn't want his adult children to know of his deeds - the biggest fear he had, this evil coward. Who knows, what else he had done. He drove taxi and he preferred the red light milieu and he was/is a sexual offender/killer.
As long as one didn't know, he was a patient somewhere for suicide watch this day of Claudia's disappearing, how should one have known, that he couldn't have been responsible?
If he was on suicide watch this day, which woman did he kill on the same day? I'm confused. Or do you mean only the date 19th March, but another year?

 

[Andyboy]

He didn't want his adult children to know of his deeds - the biggest fear he had., this evil coward. Who knows, what else he had done. He drove taxi and he preferred the red light milieu and he was/is a sexual offender/killer.
As long as one didn't know, he was a patient somewhere for suicide watch this day of Claudia's disappearing, how should one have known, that he couldn't have been responsible?
If he was on suicide watch this day, which woman did he kill on the same day? I'm confused.

If halliwell was where it is stated he was when Claudia went missing then the fact he is a complete psychopath is irrelevant, he couldn't possibly have done it, and his alibi must check out as the police must have dug deeply into it

 

[Andyboy]

He didn't want his adult children to know of his deeds - the biggest fear he had, this evil coward. Who knows, what else he had done. He drove taxi and he preferred the red light milieu and he was/is a sexual offender/killer.
As long as one didn't know, he was a patient somewhere for suicide watch this day of Claudia's disappearing, how should one have known, that he couldn't have been responsible?
If he was on suicide watch this day, which woman did he kill on the same day? I'm confused. Or do you mean only the date 19th March, but another year?

Same date, different year

 

[keep-it-real]

He didn't want his adult children to know of his deeds - the biggest fear he had, this evil coward. Who knows, what else he had done. He drove taxi and he preferred the red light milieu and he was/is a sexual offender/killer.
As long as one didn't know, he was a patient somewhere for suicide watch this day of Claudia's disappearing, how should one have known, that he couldn't have been responsible?
If he was on suicide watch this day, which woman did he kill on the same day? I'm confused. Or do you mean only the date 19th March, but another year?

I would like to know
What is the name of the mental facility?
Did he admit himself voluntarily to the mental facility or was admitted by a doctor?
What date did he admit himself?
What date did he leave the facility?
Did he at anytime check himself out the facilty on the dates relevant to CL going missing
What reason did he give for feeling suicidal
Did he kill CL and then immediately go the the facility because of what he had done (murdered someone else again and buried/disposed of the body)

 

[keep-it-real]

Same date, different year

Haliwell name was also linked to the Linda Razell case, she disappeared one morning after parking her car she was walking in a side street and taking a route through an alley.
She disappeared Tuesday March 19 2002
To date her body has not been found
It was reported Haliwell had worked for a builder who built the Razells extension.
Her husband was jailed for her disappearance but has always protested his innocence

 

[keep-it-real]

Same date, different year

Haliwell's name was also linked to the Linda Razell case, she disappeared one morning on her way to work at a college. She parked her car she in a side street and took her usual route through an alley to work. her mble phone was found in the alley.
She disappeared Tuesday March 19 2002
To date her body has not been found
It was reported Haliwell had worked for a builder who built the Razells extension.
Her husband was jailed for her disappearance but has always protested his innocence

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Haliwell's name was also linked to the Linda Razell case, she disappeared one morning on her way to work at a college. She parked her car she in a side street and took her usual route through an alley to work. her mble phone was found in the alley.
She disappeared Tuesday March 19 2002
To date her body has not been found
It was reported Haliwell had worked for a builder who built the Razells extension.
Her husband was jailed for her disappearance but has always protested his innocence

Have to say that after watching a documentary with Razell in it a while back (so sorry, cant remember details but someone may do) I was convinced of his guilt. He refused to do a lie detector test and then stopped engaging with the film maker. It was a v suss.

 

[MajorLang]

I would like to know
What is the name of the mental facility?
Did he admit himself voluntarily to the mental facility or was admitted by a doctor?
What date did he admit himself?
What date did he leave the facility?
Did he at anytime check himself out the facilty on the dates relevant to CL going missing
What reason did he give for feeling suicidal
Did he kill CL and then immediately go the the facility because of what he had done (murdered someone else again and buried/disposed of the body)

I believe that when establishing an Alibi or checking a suspect police would want those questions answered.
If I wanted to believe the Halliwell theory. I would be asking:

Why commit a crime outside of Wiltshire?
Why travel for almost 4 hours to abduct?
Why go to a city without a red light district but pass many on way including Leeds?
Could it equally have been an unknown abductor in that area?
Why return to North Yorkshire even though he had connections in South Yorkshire?
Why turn his back on all other girls walking home from night clubs that night / early morning?
Why were Becky's cardigan and Sians boots the only items recovered from the pond and none of other named missing persons?
Were the items recovered from the pond lost property left in his taxi(s) or did he have a washing line fetish?

What we must remember is this.
If he did it-Which he didn't, then he is safely tucked up inside for the rest of his days and so job done-result and all other females safe from him.
If he didn't do it and we keep saying he did then we let the evils of the hook.

I'm done on Halliwell. Why give him even more credit for what he already did.

 

[MajorLang]

Have to say that after watching a documentary with Razell in it a while back (so sorry, cant remember details but someone may do) I was convinced of his guilt. He refused to do a lie detector test and then stopped engaging with the film maker. It was a v suss.

I agree and if you thought you had a chance of gaining your freedom because you could latch onto Halliwell, why wouldn't you?

 

[MajorLang]

As many know, Claudia lived in Thirlmere Drive after moving from Malton in 2006. This was about a 15 minute walk to Heworth Road / Nags Head- She lived there until late 2007 and then moved to 46 Heworth Road.
I have recently discovered as part of my research that a certain Peter John Lawrence is listed on the electoral role as resident at Thirlmere Road during 2014-2019.

This is not the nicest area of York and certainly does appear quite strange.

Could this be coincidental or is it-The PJL???

Im just drawing all attention to this post again as it received no comments and could be quite material.....

 

[Popejohn3]

Im just drawing all attention to this post again as it received no comments and could be quite material.....

During a divorce and soon after you one might have to make do with what ever is handy regarding lodgings

 

[MajorLang]

During a divorce and soon after you one might have to make do with what ever is handy regarding lodgings

I agree PJ3 but not 18 Years after. They split in 1996

 

[Popejohn3]

I agree PJ3 but not 18 Years after. They split in 1996

I didn’t realise that

 

[MajorLang]

I didn’t realise that

It's all in my Blog

 

[keep-it-real]

Have to say that after watching a documentary with Razell in it a while back (so sorry, cant remember details but someone may do) I was convinced of his guilt. He refused to do a lie detector test and then stopped engaging with the film maker. It was a v suss.

The programme was Murder in Suburbia and followed Louise Shorter from Inside Justice as they investigated the case on behalf of Glyn Razzell one of the conditions for Inside Justice to take on your case is that you must agree to do a lie detector case if asked. He agreed to this and near the end of the programme a test was arranged when the lie detector operator arrived to take the test GL talked through the test with him and then decided he felt he didnt wish to take it as he wasnt convinced of its validity adding that it would turn into a Jeremy Kyle type charade. This left many viewers feeling it was a sign of GL's possible guilt.
The Injustice Justice teamed wound up their case.
Later the Jeremy Kyle show was withdrawn from TV after a male who appeared on the show received a negative result from the lie detector test and protested the result was not true committed suicide

 

[MajorLang]

The programme was Murder in Suburbia and followed Louise Shorter from Inside Justice as they investigated the case on behalf of Glyn Razzell one of the conditions for Inside Justice to take on your case is that you must agree to do a lie detector case if asked. He agreed to this and near the end of the programme a test was arranged when the lie detector operator arrived to take the test GL talked through the test with him and then decided he felt he didnt wish to take it as he wasnt convinced of its validity adding that it would turn into a Jeremy Kyle type charade. This left many viewers feeling it was a sign of GL's possible guilt.
The Injustice Justice teamed wound up their case.
Later the Jeremy Kyle show was withdrawn from TV after a male who appeared on the show received a negative result from the lie detector test and protested the result was not true committed suicide

I get frustrated with online forums when people continue to talk about Hallieell when he clearly had a cast iron alibi for not being in York and other stuff that could get us closer to solving this case is passed over.

For the record-Hallieell didn't do it

 

[Pinkizzy]

I've just finished Steve Fulcher's book, he mentions that Halliwell knew Huddersfield and York very well. He'd stay in an area for odd jobs during the week and then he'd return to Swindon for taxi work.

 

[Popejohn3]

Im just drawing all attention to this post again as it received no comments and could be quite material.....

Can you tell us what you’re hinting here that might progress the case ?

 

[keep-it-real]

I get frustrated with online forums when people continue to talk about Hallieell when he clearly had a cast iron alibi for not being in York and other stuff that could get us closer to solving this case is passed over.

For the record-Hallieell didn't do it

I understand your fustration but if someone is said to have a cast iron alibi then its not unreasonable to ask for details to corrobate that alibi. When those details are verified from source then they can be put aside.
The devil is in the detail in the CL case everything needs to be checked and double checked
Just my opinion