UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

[MEKON]

I think the police suspected foul play, turned up mob handed almost immediately, don't get that for a missing person generally unless it's a child

Mr Snelling was of interest to the Police. I mentioned in other posts that he looked similar (in my eyes) to another individual. Did the Police think he was a POI due to CCTV footage.

I'm just wondering if there are any people close to Claudia that looked like Mr Snelling ; and he's been wrongly collared

I'm sure the Police said people have been very lucky. But have they been very clever and have a knowledge of CCTV systems; thus dodging cameras

Someone with status and a lot to loose , someone possibly involved in a relationship with Claudia at sometime,someone with something to hide through crime for example and therefore capable of being bribed

I'm sure someone recently suggested that the Police when they referred to relationships breaking down. Could be pointing to people that were not arrested

Could they be meaning people close to the family

Is there anyone with knowledge of CCTV systems that are close to the family

Why was Snelling questioned etc; and is there anyone that looks like him that are close to Claudia and her family

 

[MEKON]

I think the police suspected foul play, turned up mob handed almost immediately, don't get that for a missing person generally unless it's a child

Mr Snelling was of interest to the Police. I mentioned in other posts that he looked similar (in my eyes) to another individual. Did the Police think he was a POI due to CCTV footage.

I'm just wondering if there are any people close to Claudia that looked like Mr Snelling ; and he's been wrongly collared

I'm sure the Police said people have been very lucky. But have they been very clever and have a knowledge of CCTV systems; thus dodging cameras

Someone with status and a lot to loose , someone possibly involved in a relationship with Claudia at sometime,someone with something to hide through crime for example and therefore capable of being bribed

I'm sure someone recently suggested that the Police when they referred to relationships breaking down. Could be pointing to people that were not arrested

Could they be meaning people close to the family

Is there anyone with knowledge of CCTV systems that are close to the family

Why was Snelling questioned etc; and is there anyone that looks like him that are close to Claudia and her family

 

[Popejohn3]

Yes someone she but not necessarily local

Someone she knows ...

 

[Popejohn3]

Yes someone she but not necessarily local

Someone she knows ...

I'll have to read this book. Sorry for being "glum" MajorLang;but who are Martyn and Hazel Dale. And why did they have input into the book

ok poor MajorLang is always expected to answer these basic questions but Martin is Peter’s spokesman and Hazel is Martin’s wife ....hope that helps

 

[Popejohn3]

Didn't he die or have I got wrong identity, Rodney something.

Rodney Ballard has died .The Tang hall person is not Rodney

 

[Pinkizzy]

Mr Snelling was of interest to the Police. I mentioned in other posts that he looked similar (in my eyes) to another individual. Did the Police think he was a POI due to CCTV footage.

I'm just wondering if there are any people close to Claudia that looked like Mr Snelling ; and he's been wrongly collared

I'm sure the Police said people have been very lucky. But have they been very clever and have a knowledge of CCTV systems; thus dodging cameras

Someone with status and a lot to loose , someone possibly involved in a relationship with Claudia at sometime,someone with something to hide through crime for example and therefore capable of being bribed

I'm sure someone recently suggested that the Police when they referred to relationships breaking down. Could be pointing to people that were not arrested

Could they be meaning people close to the family

Is there anyone with knowledge of CCTV systems that are close to the family

Why was Snelling questioned etc; and is there anyone that looks like him that are close to Claudia and her family

I think Snelling drank at the Nags Head and he had a job at the Uni at some point.

 

[MEKON]

I think Snelling drank at the Nags Head and he had a job at the Uni at some point.

But other people worked with her; similarly lots of people drank in the Nags Head with her

I understand he gave her a lift to work sometimes. But others did too

I was wondering if he'd been spotted on CCTV; because you can't arrest someone on "whims"

 

[MEKON]

Someone she knows ...

ok poor MajorLang is always expected to answer these basic questions but Martin is Peter’s spokesman and Hazel is Martin’s wife ....hope that helps

I'm going to get the book

 

[Popejohn3]

All we know about Claudia Lawrence, 11 years on from the day she vanished

This was shown 11 weeks after she disappeared.
‘ Claudia’ called her colleague Jo before she got into her car .
Also Galloway...please play and watch the video clip of the crime watch episode ...wonders if the man that goes round the back of her house is the same one seen at the bridge and also near a car with passenger door open .Yet people on here make the guy round the back of her house taller than 5’5”
The witness made the man arguing / also at the bridge to be 5’5” and that would make him to be exactly Claudia’s height !
Does not sound right in the reconstructions he is much taller .

 

[Popejohn3]

Also Galloway wanted to know if claudia stayed at home the previous night .And by this I’m inclined to believe that someone had already told them Claudia was out all night !
So why did they sound surprised when David told them a year later she was out all night?

 

[MEKON]

Also Galloway wanted to know if claudia stayed at home the previous night .And by this I’m inclined to believe that someone had already told them Claudia was out all night !
So why did they sound surprised when David told them a year later she was out all night?

" Langy" (MajorLang ) got it right when he mentioned how sinister the case is. It seems as if lots of people are telling "fibbs". And if the Police aren't referring to those arrested when they mention about people telling "fibbs". Who are they referring too;and how close are they to Claudia

Relationships breaking down.....are they friendships or working arrangements. Or are they marriage or sexual relationships

 

[keep-it-real]

Also Galloway wanted to know if claudia stayed at home the previous night .And by this I’m inclined to believe that someone had already told them Claudia was out all night !
So why did they sound surprised when David told them a year later she was out all night?

PJ when you say the previous evening do you mean the evening of the 18th?
We are aware Claudia told DO that she had spent the night of the 16th with someone its not clear wether this was at her home or elsewhere.

 

[Popejohn3]

PJ when you say the previous evening do you mean the evening of the 18th?
We are aware Claudia told DO that she had spent the night of the 16th with someone its not clear wether this was at her home or elsewhere.

The video clip of crime watch says previous night .

 

[Popejohn3]

" Langy" (MajorLang ) got it right when he mentioned how sinister the case is. It seems as if lots of people are telling "fibbs". And if the Police aren't referring to those arrested when they mention about people telling "fibbs". Who are they referring too;and how close are they to Claudia

Relationships breaking down.....are they friendships or working arrangements. Or are they marriage or sexual relationships

I do not believe there are ‘lots of people telling ‘fibs’
I believe there are lots of people who genuinely do not know what happened and the police keep calling them liars .
Some simply do not want to hang their dirty laundry in public especially if they believe it won’t help in finding her .

 

[MEKON]

I do not believe there are ‘lots of people telling ‘fibs’
I believe there are lots of people who genuinely do not know what happened and the police keep calling them liars .
Some simply do not want to hang their dirty laundry in public especially if they believe it won’t help in finding her .

Could be; but the Police changed their angle of enquiry to the back alley all of a sudden

Also; the chap she worked with apparently disclosed some info 1 year after she disappeared

Theres other examples too

 

[MEKON]

" Langy" (MajorLang ) got it right when he mentioned how sinister the case is. It seems as if lots of people are telling "fibbs". And if the Police aren't referring to those arrested when they mention about people telling "fibbs". Who are they referring too;and how close are they to Claudia

Relationships breaking down.....are they friendships or working arrangements. Or are they marriage or sexual relationships

People have suggested a secret partner could of been a Policeman. Did I read write that a local Councillor left the Council chambers suddenly when some planning permission business was discussed

Was a local Councillor involved with Claudia. Did Claudia know any local Councillors as I'm sure her Mother is a local Councillor too

 

[MEKON]

People have been discussing recently about the possibility that Claudia was pregnant. Maybe that was the secret the Police also had an inkling that people were hiding;amongst other secrets. We can summize who the perpetrators were; but surely there's got to be a motive, because i do not think it was a 'on the chance' crime committed by an opportunist stranger. Surely the crime has been committed to suppress a secret and/or criminal activity; plus possibly the 3rd element of a Triangle which involves a relationship. Maybe there's a 4th element that if any of it comes out;that someone of some status is going to loose everything. Additionally i think the ringleader has some sort of power and hold over others. Whether this is cash influenced or due to other already having their hands dirty in criminal activity before the disappearance. If this is the case; the criminal activity is major or the sum of the triangle adds up to a mess that needs to be kept quiet. Thus:

• Has Claudia got involved knowingly or unknowingly into crime through a sexual or non sexual relationship . Or has she been passing information onto the Police about crime
• Has Claudia been in a relationship with someone of status: Freemason, Local Councillor or University Dean for example
• Has Claudia become pregnant with someone of social standing or with a person that means future life would become difficult for Claudia. Is that why Claudia was apparently keeping out of the Nags Head
• But does someone know she was pregnant and that's what the Police are referring to when they suggest we know someones telling lies. In relation to this point and the one above. I do not want to be disrespectful or judgmental to Claudia. But if Claudia did have open relationships; was there uncertainty on who the Father of the child was. Is that why possibly several people have been involved in a ''call to arms''. Has this event occurred on top of multiple individuals being involved in criminal activity together as well.
  
• Has Claudia bribed anyone for certain issues above

 

[keep-it-real]

The video clip of crime watch says previous night .

Can you post clip lik again please PJ Im getting an error message when trying to view , could you also give the min & sec when it appears in the video so I can be clear we are talking about the same piece of info

 

[keep-it-real]

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" Langy" (MajorLang ) got it right when he mentioned how sinister the case is. It seems as if lots of people are telling "fibbs". And if the Police aren't referring to those arrested when they mention about people telling "fibbs". Who are they referring too;and how close are they to Claudia

Relationships breaking down.....are they friendships or working arrangements. Or are they marriage or sexual relationships

I think we have to be careful here.. If police know they are not being told the truth to then they will be able to prove that and there is a legal course of action they can take. Suspecting someome is not telling you the truth but unable to prove it leaves the subject open to all kinds of misrepresentation and that is not good for any investigation.
Then we come to the subject of withholding information. Is it possible that certain people when questioned about their relationships with CL chose not to disclose information so by not saying anything (no comment) so in effect they raised suspicion because they did not answer the question.
I note in an article in the Yorkshire Post reporting on the CL case (link attached) that at the time 'a 47-year-old man remains on bail on suspicion of perverting the course of justice'. I understand that this man was later released without charge.
Obstruct Claudia probe and face arrest, says detective leading York chef inquiry

 

[MEKON]

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I think we have to be careful here.. If police know they are not being told the truth to then they will be able to prove that and there is a legal course of action they can take. Suspecting someome is not telling you the truth but unable to prove it leaves the subject open to all kinds of misrepresentation and that is not good for any investigation.
Then we come to the subject of withholding information. Is it possible that certain people when questioned about their relationships with CL chose not to disclose information so by not saying anything (no comment) so in effect they raised suspicion because they did not answer the question.
I note in an article in the Yorkshire Post reporting on the CL case (link attached) that at the time 'a 47-year-old man remains on bail on suspicion of perverting the course of justice'. I understand that this man was later released without charge.
Obstruct Claudia probe and face arrest, says detective leading York chef inquiry

Of course people have to be careful and we and the Police know that no one is perfect and we all make mistakes. But i feel the authorities are being genuine when they suggest people are not being honest. And when the case is a murder investigation,the authorities and Claudias family want results. They also need and want people to be honest for multiple reasons. And when the authorities find out that anyone has told a lie or not come forward; it will annoy them. It will annoy the authorities because it creates suspicion towards individuals that are being unclear and it wastes Police time; thus hampering the best opportunity in resolving the truth in the first few weeks of an investigation

Its no good the authorities finding out a truth on a particular matter 1 month for example after they have originally asked someone about an issue. Yes;they have the ability to take legal action, but it does not benefit solving the case. I'm sure they'd like a straight answer straight away so they can pursue a positive course of inquiry than chasing '' Red Herrings''.