UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

[Popejohn3]

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Then if a lift wasn't given Jo would be the one lying as she will ha e been the only person able to volunteer this info. For those of you who haven't seen the Labour MP Jo Cox case. It is strongly alleged that the person caught murdering her and then interviewed was identified by friends of the accused as not the accused.
The police interview of the person shows that he sat and said NOTHING for the whole interviews not even a No comment and it is believed that the reason for this is because is the was a doppelgänger but with a facial blemish that was different l, the voice would have given him away. It is believed that the person eventually accused was stemmed up in a cell whist the Patsy was interviewed.
Was the person with sunglasses at the post box a Patsy and was the lift ever given by JO?
Did Claudia go home that afternoon or somewhere else?
Did Linda see who she thought was Claudia?

Did Claudia jump into the Red van seen passing the postbox.

mutual recognition Linda and Claudia would be of paramount importance in this case !
I’m sorry but I honestly believe both of the sightings in the morning were that of Claudia and her abductor .The fact no one has ever came forward to claim it was them that speaks volumes .

 

[Popejohn3]

You all keep mentioning David Robinson
Check this one out to see what he has to say !Suspect in missing Claudia Lawrence case slams police misunderstanding

 

[Popejohn3]

Suspect in missing Claudia Lawrence case slams police misunderstanding - Hot World Report

I know he doesn’t say much

 

[MajorLang]

Suspect in missing Claudia Lawrence case slams police misunderstanding - Hot World Report

I know he doesn’t say much

Yes I was surprised as tho why he was arrested @Popejohn3 and whilst he drank at the Nags, he usually drank away from Claudia and CO and was often in the sports bar at the rear.
Did he provide someone an Alibi?

 

[Inspector Evans]

Then if a lift wasn't given Jo would be the one lying as she will ha e been the only person able to volunteer this info. For those of you who haven't seen the Labour MP Jo Cox case. It is strongly alleged that the person caught murdering her and then interviewed was identified by friends of the accused as not the accused.
The police interview of the person shows that he sat and said NOTHING for the whole interviews not even a No comment and it is believed that the reason for this is because is the was a doppelgänger but with a facial blemish that was different l, the voice would have given him away. It is believed that the person eventually accused was stemmed up in a cell whist the Patsy was interviewed.
Was the person with sunglasses at the post box a Patsy and was the lift ever given by JO?
Did Claudia go home that afternoon or somewhere else?
Did Linda see who she thought was Claudia?

Did Claudia jump into the Red van seen passing the postbox.

Say what now?!!!

 

[MajorLang]

Say what now?!!!

Perhaps the person caught on cctv posting the letter was not Claudia and so they doesn't put her walking home at that time.

 

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[Popejohn3]

Perhaps the person caught on cctv posting the letter was not Claudia and so they doesn't put her walking home at that time.

The mind boggles !
I simply hope the cold case people are not wasting time reading our posts !
They would loose the will to live if they are !

 

[Deleted member 102539]

The mind boggles !
I simply hope the cold case people are not wasting time reading our posts !
They would loose the will to live if they are !

 

[MajorLang]

The mind boggles !
I simply hope the cold case people are not wasting time reading our posts !
They would loose the will to live if they are !

I think they should read the pairs @Popejohn3 as there is much on here that cold case could do worse than follow up on.

 

[Yozzer]

A couple of things from this article:
All we know about Claudia Lawrence, 11 years on from the day she vanished

1) It says on 19/3/09 after CL failed to turn up for work for her morning shift, Claudia’s manager attempted to call her mobile but did not receive an answer. I wasn't aware of this. Does anyone know who her manager was?
2) In first pic, CL has a camera. I wonder if this was recovered? Digital cameras hold hundreds of pics and this is probably how CL stored her photos.

 

[Popejohn3]

After PJ3. How could she pick her up before????

It is possible Claudia had asked

A couple of things from this article:
All we know about Claudia Lawrence, 11 years on from the day she vanished

1) It says on 19/3/09 after CL failed to turn up for work for her morning shift, Claudia’s manager attempted to call her mobile but did not receive an answer. I wasn't aware of this. Does anyone know who her manager was?
2) In first pic, CL has a camera. I wonder if this was recovered? Digital cameras hold hundreds of pics and this is probably how CL stored her photos.

point 2 is very important !

 

[Popejohn3]

A couple of things from this article:
All we know about Claudia Lawrence, 11 years on from the day she vanished

1) It says on 19/3/09 after CL failed to turn up for work for her morning shift, Claudia’s manager attempted to call her mobile but did not receive an answer. I wasn't aware of this. Does anyone know who her manager was?
2) In first pic, CL has a camera. I wonder if this was recovered? Digital cameras hold hundreds of pics and this is probably how CL stored her photos.

And if it was the ‘new’ person Claudia might have sensed and realised she did not know him very well and might have left clues ... if only !

 

[Popejohn3]

Was Claudia able to take pictures using her phone ?

 

[Yozzer]

Was Claudia able to take pictures using her phone ?

Yes but not very good quality.

 

[Yozzer]

This from NYP: Claudias moile phone is switched off

If you follow Malyn's thinking below, he is inferring she didn't leave the house to go to work on Thursday morning. According to his logic, she would have plugged her phone in during the evening of Wed 18th or overnight. Therefore she was either abducted from her home, lured outside or enticed out for a couple of drinks in Acomb (which is also mentioned in this link) after her last call/text on Wed. evening.

Det Supt Malyn said: “Claudia used her mobile phone intensively so it is unlikely she would allow it to run out of battery. Also, her mobile phone charger was still in her house.
“From looking at her phone records, we anticipate that she would have wanted to use that phone during her breaks at work and then when walking back home. So for it to naturally run out of battery would not be the norm.”

 

[Popejohn3]

Yes but not very good quality.

Therefore she might have used her digital often?

 

[Popejohn3]

This from NYP: Claudias moile phone is switched off

If you follow Malyn's thinking below, he is inferring she didn't leave the house to go to work on Thursday morning. According to his logic, she would have plugged her phone in during the evening of Wed 18th or overnight. Therefore she was either abducted from her home, lured outside or enticed out for a couple of drinks in Acomb (which is also mentioned in this link) after her last call/text on Wed. evening.

Det Supt Malyn said: “Claudia used her mobile phone intensively so it is unlikely she would allow it to run out of battery. Also, her mobile phone charger was still in her house.
“From looking at her phone records, we anticipate that she would have wanted to use that phone during her breaks at work and then when walking back home. So for it to naturally run out of battery would not be the norm.”

I’m sure we can all agree ...it was switched off.The abductor had access to her phone and her house .He might have kept the phone/ house keys and poss her hair straighteners which retailed around £90 in 2009

 

[keep-it-real]

This from NYP: Claudias moile phone is switched off

If you follow Malyn's thinking below, he is inferring she didn't leave the house to go to work on Thursday morning. According to his logic, she would have plugged her phone in during the evening of Wed 18th or overnight. Therefore she was either abducted from her home, lured outside or enticed out for a couple of drinks in Acomb (which is also mentioned in this link) after her last call/text on Wed. evening.

Det Supt Malyn said: “Claudia used her mobile phone intensively so it is unlikely she would allow it to run out of battery. Also, her mobile phone charger was still in her house.
“From looking at her phone records, we anticipate that she would have wanted to use that phone during her breaks at work and then when walking back home. So for it to naturally run out of battery would not be the norm.”

We know her phone was switched of on around 12.10pm on the 19th which means it hadnt run out of battery.
We dont know how much battery life the phone still held when it was switched off .
We do not know when the phone was last charged or if it was fully charged.
So the battery life of the phone cannot tell us if she left the house on the evening of the 18th or morning of the 19th because a Samsung D900 handset had the battery life to cover both scenarios as is confirmed by the fact that the phone was switched off and didnt run out of battery.

Not to detract too much but given that there was some suggestion that CL's body might have been buried in the foundations of the College new Science block which would have been substantial, could the weight of poured concrete create enough pressure on the controls of a mobile phone to switch if off.
Previously a photo of a white van parked in a recessed parking bay in Heworth Place was posted on the forum the logo on the van was that of a Concrete Grinding Company who also specialised in laying concrete floors could the depth and weight of a concrete floor also have the same effect when poured on a mobile device

 

[Yozzer]

This from NYP: Claudias moile phone is switched off

If you follow Malyn's thinking below, he is inferring she didn't leave the house to go to work on Thursday morning.

I'm going to contradict myself here. I now think Malyn wasn't suggesting her phone hadn't been charged - quite the opposite. He was saying that it had to be switched off on 19th because it was still functioning when the manager phoned her at 10.00. He was making the point that it had been explicitly detached. Which muddies the timeline. However, if most who knew her were surprised there were no further texts after 8.30 approx., it does suggest there was an incident later that evening IMO.