UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #7

[Popejohn3]

As we note from "Roots" book, which of course was checked before publication by Martyn Dale.
I believe your questions should be directed to Dale as he may have suggested that certain content was not released and the questions should be put to him as to why.
What did Claudia walk in on when she was younger in her home?
What was Peters relationship with Dale.
Claudia babysat for Martyn and Hazel Dale as a young teenager-Did all of this influence her in later life?
IMO

What ever happened or did not happen when Claudia was a teenager must have been forgotten by Claudia because she was close to all three other members of her family .I don’t think we need to go that far back !

 

[MajorLang]

What ever happened or did not happen when Claudia was a teenager must have been forgotten by Claudia because she was close to all three other members of her family .I don’t think we need to go that far back !

Oh I think we do.....
Perhaps we should understand why both her and her "friend" Jen were attracted to much older men, particularly no oil paintings when they could both have had their pick of the crop-particularly Claudia.
Some say it was the money but there are many young men with money that would have been attracted to Claudia.
There is something that lies beneath all of this IMO.

 

[Popejohn3]

Oh I think we do.....
Perhaps we should understand why both her and her "friend" Jen were attracted to much older men, particularly no oil paintings when they could both have had their pick of the crop-particularly Claudia.

Some say it was the money but there are many young men with money that would have been attracted to Claudia.
There is something that lies beneath all of this IMO.[/QUOT
What ?

 

[MajorLang]

Remember that DS Malyn said that it was those that were close to Claudia that would not talk.
I do not believe that his statement was confined to the people arrested IMO

 

[SimeonOPatrick]

Has the theory that CL may have been pregnant at the time of her disappearance ever been discussed? I recall that she had booked the Friday off on the week she disappeared. No one knew why she had booked it off. Had she arranged to have the baby aborted at a private clinic? She informs the bf ( father of child) he is unhappy that she is aborting his child. Hence argument on route to work on the morning she disappeared and tempers flared and he hits her rendering her unconscious then panics and bundles her into the car

 

[MajorLang]

Has the theory that CL may have been pregnant at the time of her disappearance ever been discussed? I recall that she had booked the Friday off on the week she disappeared. No one knew why she had booked it off. Had she arranged to have the baby aborted at a private clinic? She informs the bf ( father of child) he is unhappy that she is aborting his child. Hence argument on route to work on the morning she disappeared and tempers flared and he hits her rendering her unconscious then panics and bundles her into the car

It was not a rumour that was being discussed by locals or friends but speculation in social media forums.
There is no evidence and we have to be careful that this is not a herring thrown out for all to catch.
As we know, she was promiscuous and so likely to be taking precautions.

 

[Popejohn3]

Has the theory that CL may have been pregnant at the time of her disappearance ever been discussed? I recall that she had booked the Friday off on the week she disappeared. No one knew why she had booked it off. Had she arranged to have the baby aborted at a private clinic? She informs the bf ( father of child) he is unhappy that she is aborting his child. Hence argument on route to work on the morning she disappeared and tempers flared and he hits her rendering her unconscious then panics and bundles her into the car

This could have easily have happened.
The clinic would have confirmed this with police.Her doctor too !?
She Might have thought she was pregnant .
Again there would have been tell tale signs in her house .She would also probably tell her close friends too.
Still brings us to the important question who was her secret boyfriend?

 

[Popejohn3]

It was not a rumour that was being discussed by locals or friends but speculation in social media forums.
There is no evidence and we have to be careful that this is not a herring thrown out for all to catch.
As we know, she was promiscuous and so likely to be taking precautions.

At that age 35 pregnancy becomes more important and urgent for a woman I would have thought.

 

[Popejohn3]

Has the theory that CL may have been pregnant at the time of her disappearance ever been discussed? I recall that she had booked the Friday off on the week she disappeared. No one knew why she had booked it off. Had she arranged to have the baby aborted at a private clinic? She informs the bf ( father of child) he is unhappy that she is aborting his child. Hence argument on route to work on the morning she disappeared and tempers flared and he hits her rendering her unconscious then panics and bundles her into the car

Can you respond to MajorLang’s statement :is this a herring you’ve thrown at us ?
Or perhaps you do not want us to discuss Cuba ?!!
Just a thought

 

[SimeonOPatrick]

This could have easily have happened.
The clinic would have confirmed this with police.Her doctor too !?
She Might have thought she was pregnant .
Again there would have been tell tale signs in her house .She would also probably tell her close friends too.
Still brings us to the important question who was her secret boyfriend?

No experience with these clinics etc but does the individual need to provide their own details if per say it was a private clinic? Or on the other hand perhaps she was pregnant and adamant that she was going to have the baby and the bf didnt want this as it would damage his relationship with wife or long term partner. From what I can gather CL kept a lot of things close to her chest and I do not think we should assume that she would share with friends or family that she was pregnant. I mean that would lead her to divulge the mystery bf or bf's which it is alleged she had worked hard to keep secret from her nearest and dearest

 

[SimeonOPatrick]

Can you respond to MajorLang’s statement :is this a herring you’ve thrown at us ?
Or perhaps you do not want us to discuss Cuba ?!!
Just a thought

Certainly no herring.... Is just a theory that I have come up with. What do you mean re: Cuba?

 

[SimeonOPatrick]

Certainly no herring.... Is just a theory that I have come up with. What do you mean re: Cuba?

8. Have I missed a thread about Cuba?

 

[Popejohn3]

Certainly no herring.... Is just a theory that I have come up with. What do you mean re: Cuba?

See my post just before your first one !

 

[MEKON]

And from Florida was she onward to Cuba?

May be obvious or irrelevant; but the chap that was in the Co-op, of which the authorities wanted to speak to. Could he be Cuban

 

[Popejohn3]

May be obvious or irrelevant; but the chap that was in the Co-op, of which the authorities wanted to speak to. Could he be Cuban

Could easily be so.
We know at least one Cuban who met her on holiday spoke at length to a national newspaper.He was a chef at a bar/ restaurant in Hale greater Manchester.He said he and around 9 friends ( all Cubans ) met her on holiday on the Island .
She kept in touch with them and they also visited her in York !
I wonder if any of them are on here !
And surely they would have some holiday snaps of her and her companion ?
They must have been following her story the last 11 years ?!

 

[keep-it-real]

And from Florida was she onward to Cuba?

Visa or Tourist cards are required by UK citizens visiting Cuba so there should be a record of her visits and when she made them.

 

[keep-it-real]

Does anyone know who was stopped at the airport from boarding the plane with Claudia on a holiday to Florida ?
Her sister said years ago that Claudia’s companion had some kind of conviction and because of this he was not allowed to proceed to Florida !
Did she go on her own in the end ?

Can I go to Florida if I have a criminal record?
Under United States visa law people who have been arrested at anytime are not eligible to travel visa free under the Visa Waiver Program(VWP); they are required to apply for visas before traveling. If the arrest resulted in a conviction, the individual may require a special restricted visa in order to travel.

 

[SimeonOPatrick]

Visa or Tourist cards are required by UK citizens visiting Cuba so there should be a record of her visits and when she made them.

Personally I think the Cuban theory is a bit of a wild card. It's never been mentioned in the media before.

 

[Popejohn3]

Personally I think the Cuban theory is a bit of a wild card. It's never been mentioned in the media before.

Why police now fear missing chef Claudia Lawrence was murdered | Daily Mail Online

Please read this post all the way through !
Down to what Dan says about Claudia and her Cuban connection.Do not ignore and keep it .I have a feeling this article from the mail will disappear completely one of these days
And yes the friends Dan talks about were are Cubans .
And you will see and would want to know why on earth the police sounded surprised to hear ( a year later )that she had a boyfriend when Dan himself told them she had told him in October...that’s just over four months before she disappeared... that she had a boyfriend !!

 

[SimeonOPatrick]

Why police now fear missing chef Claudia Lawrence was murdered | Daily Mail Online

Please read this post all the way through !
Down to what Dan says about Claudia and her Cuban connection.Do not ignore and keep it .I have a feeling this article from the mail will disappear completely one of these days
And yes the friends Dan talks about were are Cubans .
And you will see and would want to know why on earth the police sounded surprised to hear ( a year later )that she had a boyfriend when Dan himself told them she had told him in October...that’s just over four months before she disappeared... that she had a boyfriend !!

Why police now fear missing chef Claudia Lawrence was murdered | Daily Mail Online

Please read this post all the way through !
Down to what Dan says about Claudia and her Cuban connection.Do not ignore and keep it .I have a feeling this article from the mail will disappear completely one of these days
And yes the friends Dan talks about were are Cubans .
And you will see and would want to know why on earth the police sounded surprised to hear ( a year later )that she had a boyfriend when Dan himself told them she had told him in October...that’s just over four months before she disappeared... that she had a boyfriend !!

nowt there about Cubans and I think if anything the people trying to put fwd the Cuban theory are the ones trying to complex the reality of this investigation