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In any case, they had a reason to feel concerned and embarrassed and desperate and angry, before Claudia went missing. MOO
UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #9
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In any case, they had a reason to feel concerned and embarrassed and desperate and angry, before Claudia went missing. MOO
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We dont actually KNOW what motive anyone had, as it happens. We have plenty of speculation and some of that seems feasible. But we dont know for sure.
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Yes I know this image (screenshot), the large white transit on the right? Are you using bus cctv yourself or picking these images up and adding to it yourself. I would possibly be pulling back and looking on the car park entrance on the left before cctv hits the nags head area. We can see the transit and suv and those around it x
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Yes I know this image (screenshot), the large white transit on the right? Are you using bus cctv yourself or picking these images up and adding to it yourself. I would possibly be pulling back and looking on the car park entrance on the left before cctv hits the nags head area. We can see the transit and suv and those around it x
curiosity 2 I couldn’t bring myself to bother reading, Ive seen snippets of the book and some money goes to mussing people! And some money goes to charity’s and pensions and trustees and all I can think is why on Earth did it not go to finding Claudia? Why did no one try raise funds ? Why not now as there’s claudias law use what ever money is available for an incentive reward? Never too late! Or perhaps it will take a member of the public to start a go fund me to have want to find answers x
we won't know, of course, but it would be interesting if claudia had had or was having treatment for mood swing issues...especially after drinking.
this is not an attempt to victim blame...but her body language looks good on that last footage...and she seems to have been happy most of the time.
have we got anybody here who knows about alcoholic amnesia or how things come to the surface when you're drunk...is it anything like night terrors.
I just fall asleep....
this is not an attempt to victim blame...but her body language looks good on that last footage...and she seems to have been happy most of the time.
have we got anybody here who knows about alcoholic amnesia or how things come to the surface when you're drunk...is it anything like night terrors.
I just fall asleep....
re vixeys post...I dont like saying why dont the Lawrences cough. up because it sounds a bit like blaming them, but I can't help thinking like other people here that there should be some kind of push
I dont know if its because people in York...who, I guess, would be most likely to contribute,... are afraid.
I know she wasn't popular in Malton, but you'd think they'd want to help bring closure for her mother.
any vulnerable person from any kind of background could suffer in the same way
I dont know if its because people in York...who, I guess, would be most likely to contribute,... are afraid.
I know she wasn't popular in Malton, but you'd think they'd want to help bring closure for her mother.
any vulnerable person from any kind of background could suffer in the same way
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PJ3 the defender of the Nags and the Lawrence's-You would make a good new PR person now that Peter has had a tiff with Martin Dales
I don’t agree with PR persons double the work for the police !
Again in this case anyway who was her mother’s spokes person ?
It complicates things unnecessarily imo
I have a genuine general question and I do not want to start a discussion on religion or God .
If a church goer goes to confession admitting he killed someone by accident , what would be the advice from the priest ?
Or even a non catholic Christian asking God for forgiveness . Would that be enough and try to forget all about it ?
This question could easily apply to the MacCan case too .
Does anyone know exactly what advice they are given ?
If a church goer goes to confession admitting he killed someone by accident , what would be the advice from the priest ?
Or even a non catholic Christian asking God for forgiveness . Would that be enough and try to forget all about it ?
This question could easily apply to the MacCan case too .
Does anyone know exactly what advice they are given ?
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I would say a person with moral integrity would tell the murderer to go to the police and confess. Put things right in this life for the victims family. Worry about the next life if you get there. But sorry not sure what a priest would say. Depends on the priest I suppose
I can understand that someone can do something terrible in this life, totally regret it and change.
what I dont understand is how someone like myra hindley, for example could claim to have found god and try and use that as a lever for release.
I think if you were really sincere in that faith, you'd say....ok ive changed...ill use my life now to serve my punishment and do what good I can from inside prison.
what I dont understand is how someone like myra hindley, for example could claim to have found god and try and use that as a lever for release.
I think if you were really sincere in that faith, you'd say....ok ive changed...ill use my life now to serve my punishment and do what good I can from inside prison.
I think it probably depends on the denomination and. the minister
whatever the attitude to punishment, though, I think they'd be looking to see if there was a way closure could be brought to Claudius family....maybe they could have the body to bring their minds to rest, or, at least, they could somehow be informed of whether she is alive or dead...I think m0st people here think she's dead, but a family need finality
whatever the attitude to punishment, though, I think they'd be looking to see if there was a way closure could be brought to Claudius family....maybe they could have the body to bring their minds to rest, or, at least, they could somehow be informed of whether she is alive or dead...I think m0st people here think she's dead, but a family need finality
Let’s say you had a fist fight with someone and you end up killing the other person unintentionally would you come forward and confess if there is no one else present ?
Remember that by coming forward there is a chance you could be ruining your wife’s/husband’s and or children’s lives!
I’m not suggesting anything I’m simply asking the question!
Or put it an other way: what % of people would actually come forward in such scenario?
Remember that by coming forward there is a chance you could be ruining your wife’s/husband’s and or children’s lives!
I’m not suggesting anything I’m simply asking the question!
Or put it an other way: what % of people would actually come forward in such scenario?
not many, I suppose....id like to think I would, but I know im a coward, so I wouldn't bet on it.
but, if I could, id try to do something for their family..try and get as much information to them as I could.
people always seem terribly shocked when I say that, under the right....or wrong....circumstances, id probably be. capable of murder because I very rarely l0se my temper.
but if we. had American gun laws and I had a gun to hand and a set of highly unusual circumstances came together, who knows....
its ok ...theres nobody in the cellar yet
but, if I could, id try to do something for their family..try and get as much information to them as I could.
people always seem terribly shocked when I say that, under the right....or wrong....circumstances, id probably be. capable of murder because I very rarely l0se my temper.
but if we. had American gun laws and I had a gun to hand and a set of highly unusual circumstances came together, who knows....
its ok ...theres nobody in the cellar yet
Even if there was ... I replaced bullets with blanks !
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Don’t think if wanting to remain a man of they would say, unless the person is thought to be a danger in the future. I would say it’s possible they would find a way or try get the person to confess.
well, yes, popejohn...I didn't think of that.
I think if the scenario was similar to what you describe...an accident during fisticuffs, there would be sympathy, but it would depend.
for example, was the person of far superior strength, and had Claudia been battered black and blue when she died or was it a. genuinely unlucky fall or hit.
to add to my notoriety, I have to confess that id nearly killed someone before I started school.
I was 3 or 4 and. playing some kind of tag game in the garden with my brother and his friend....aged 6.
his friend was cheating so I lobbed a brick at him to stop him running...it did that...he ended up unconscious in our living room....you can imagine the state of my mother.
luckily, all ended well, but I wonder what kind of effect it would have had on me if it hadn't
sometimes there's a very thin line
if the situation was an unfortunate, rather than a violent one, then presumably that could only be proved from the state of the body.
one of the plus points of the anonymous confession was that at least you could rescue something from an otherwise hopeless situation...for example, the family could recover the body.
but with all the advances. in forensics I doubt whether they'd tell the minister where the body is these days
I think if the scenario was similar to what you describe...an accident during fisticuffs, there would be sympathy, but it would depend.
for example, was the person of far superior strength, and had Claudia been battered black and blue when she died or was it a. genuinely unlucky fall or hit.
to add to my notoriety, I have to confess that id nearly killed someone before I started school.
I was 3 or 4 and. playing some kind of tag game in the garden with my brother and his friend....aged 6.
his friend was cheating so I lobbed a brick at him to stop him running...it did that...he ended up unconscious in our living room....you can imagine the state of my mother.
luckily, all ended well, but I wonder what kind of effect it would have had on me if it hadn't
sometimes there's a very thin line
if the situation was an unfortunate, rather than a violent one, then presumably that could only be proved from the state of the body.
one of the plus points of the anonymous confession was that at least you could rescue something from an otherwise hopeless situation...for example, the family could recover the body.
but with all the advances. in forensics I doubt whether they'd tell the minister where the body is these days
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Harry Dunn is a good recent example. That American woman certainly didn't mean to kill him but driving on wrong side of road isn't a good look when accident happens. Goes back to US before U.K can or wants to do anything and now it's deadlock with much suffering for his family and everything getting too political.
They know it's an accident but the right thing to do is come back and face justice.
Was also watching one of those American crime shows a few months back. Guy drives down the street and accidently runs over a neighbour's kid who sadly dies. He's distraught and says sorry to family. A month or two later he comes back from work and is beaten up on his driveway by 2-3 masked heavies and dies himself. Think the person who lost his son was a mafia boss!
Plenty of people carry guilt around for affairs so you stretch it a little more if a person loses their life in your presence....
Think the big thing here is if it really was one of the POI quality of life hasn't really decreased much at all in last decade, infact it's probably got much better so you tend to keep your head down in those situations and after a while perhaps block out it ever happened at all...
They know it's an accident but the right thing to do is come back and face justice.
Was also watching one of those American crime shows a few months back. Guy drives down the street and accidently runs over a neighbour's kid who sadly dies. He's distraught and says sorry to family. A month or two later he comes back from work and is beaten up on his driveway by 2-3 masked heavies and dies himself. Think the person who lost his son was a mafia boss!
Plenty of people carry guilt around for affairs so you stretch it a little more if a person loses their life in your presence....
Think the big thing here is if it really was one of the POI quality of life hasn't really decreased much at all in last decade, infact it's probably got much better so you tend to keep your head down in those situations and after a while perhaps block out it ever happened at all...
'My Friend Claudia Wasn’t Treated As A Missing Person But As A Woman Of Loose Morals'
This is a year old .Most here would have read it but the clues are there !
Like “ ... I wonder what the original investigation might have missed ..”
This is a year old .Most here would have read it but the clues are there !
Like “ ... I wonder what the original investigation might have missed ..”
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