UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #2

[JamesKing]

How do you mean, I'm not understanding?

A bin lorry doesn't do it's round ...and then head to the incinerator.
They "hub" the waste in another (larger) container.
Then, after several loads are collected, they take just one container. Saves lots of cash.

But to get the most out of that one container, they compact all the waste, so as to get more in.

I checked the Mildenhall "household waste site" and there is a larger container there.
I'm not suggesting that is where they transfer the rubbish. Just that they do use this process.
There is a large industrial complex up in Mildenhall. And several "rubbish" businesses.

Clearly there is "something" the bin lorry went to up there to do, as Bury also has a Biffa base.


Here's a "larger lorry" delivering at that Ipswich plant

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

No this is for general waste, things that cannot be recycled. It contains the chip because a company will pay Biffa to dispose of it, unlike the cardboard and paper.

The Biffa bin next to the blue bin says Dry Mixed Recyclables.

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

i still think that only the phone is crushed by the weight of he paper, either in the lorry or a hub as stated above. Human remains would be obvious in a recycling batch.

The only bin theory that that sees him crushed or incinerated is one where general waste was collected and that is not the supported narrative.

My advice is to check within a mile of all stops the lorry made after Short Brackland

 

[guruagain]

it matters a huge amount, because that is how waste is defined.
Because waxed cups and contaminated waste paper is not classed as dmr recyclables

biffa, on there website, define "dry mixed recyclables".

Now i can't imagine greggs having "two or three" bin collections a day, just to "recycle".
Whereas a collection of "contaminated waste", then that'll go to the incinerator.

We don't know that it was a "biffa bin" or a "collection from Greggs"!

 

[JamesKing]

No this is for general waste, things that cannot be recycled. It contains the chip because a company will pay Biffa to dispose of it, unlike the cardboard and paper.

The Biffa bin next to the blue bin says Dry Mixed Recyclables.

We don't know what the waste was !

A probable reason is, because they didn't want "adverse" headlines to effect the search.

The police talk about "landfill". But "Dry Recyclables" don't go to landfill
And the family talk about "landfill" But again clearly "Dry Recyclables" don't go to landfill

I couldn't work it about before because "landfill" and "the type of waste mentioned" didn't make sense.
But now it does. It wasn't that type of waste.

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

The only relevance of it not being Biffa is that it reduces the likelihood of a chip being on the bin. Greggs is irrelevant, we aren't saying he got in the bin in the hope of snagging a steak bake.

we don't know that it was a biffa bin or a collection from Greggs!

 

[guruagain]

All "waste" is sorted these "days" even stuff that "heads" for "landfill" or "incinerator".

 

[JamesKing]

We don't know that it was a "biffa bin" or a "collection from Greggs"!

I imagine the "same rules apply" industry wide.... otherwise there would be chaos !

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

All general waste is sorted for additional recyclables, this is true, but pre sorted recyclables do not go to the same end location, that's the point.

 

[JamesKing]

All "waste" is sorted these "days" even stuff that "heads" for "landfill" or "incinerator".

They sort the waste they are due to burn !

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

Just for a clear summary from me:

He gets in a bin of mixed recyclab
bin isn't formally weighed because it never is due to the contract nature
Corrie gets out, injured
Phone stays in and is crushed
Corrie succumbs to his injuries close to the point he escaped (another collection point).

 

[guruagain]

As I suggested before. I would imagine bin owners/users are territorial about placement. Here's a picture of the ex policeman at the site shortly afterwards being interviewed. They MAY be the same bin So?

The blue non biffa bin is that only one that says "Cardboard Only" so this is probably the one that was collected.

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

Hemce why it's unlikely that he's been compacted or incinerated.

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

The blue non biffa bin is that only one that says "Cardboard Only" so this is probably the one that was collected.

Disagree, Biffa bin says Dry Mixed Recyclables.

They maybe separating cardboard and paper hemce the "paper" statement. That blue bin is council collected (I don't think this would occur at 3AM on a Friday) and the waste would be at the site on Rougham Hill.

 

[guruagain]

Just for a clear summary from me:

He gets in a bin of mixed recyclab
bin isn't formally weighed because it never is due to the contract nature
Corrie gets out, injured
Phone stays in and is crushed
Corrie succumbs to his injuries close to the point he escaped (another collection point).

But Police says bin was weighed based on information from Waste company, - your premise is that the waste company lied about the only significant clue because they don't want anyone to know their cardboard waste trade secrets.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

The things you learn in the process of sleuthing! "And today, children, we're mainly going to be talking about bins"

We don't know for certain whether it was a Biffa bin, a council bin, or any other type of bin. We don't know for certain where it went. We don't know for certain whether the phone was on board or not. So frustrating!

 

[JamesKing]

All general waste is sorted for additional recyclables, this is true, but pre sorted recyclables do not go to the same end location, that's the point.

Here's anews report on that very plant.

Third "picture" down, is a video (ITV News report)

Go to 00.53 and play from there.

Top right. That's a steel "wheel hub" or "brake rotor".

I guess they didn't sort that rubbish....on the day the cameras came !
Proof, they don't sort the rubbish.

http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2014-12-04/new-180m-waste-incinerator-officially-opens-in-suffolk/

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

No my premise is that the waste company told the truth about wha they considered the bin to weigh, but this was an estimate based on aggregated collections which are common for this type of waste. Biffa haven't broken any laws but the public are likely to suggest that their processes contributed to the death of a serviceman, despite them being entirely legal....

 

[PilgrimsPrayer]

Sorting is a production line, it may not have gone through the metal pick.

Here's anews report on that very plant.

Third "picture" down, is a video (ITV News report)

Go to 00.53 and play from there.

Top right. That's a steel "wheel hub" or "brake rotor".

I guess they didn't sort that rubbish....on the day the cameras came !
Proof, they don't sort the rubbish.

http://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2014-12-04/new-180m-waste-incinerator-officially-opens-in-suffolk/

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Hemce why it's unlikely that he's been compacted or incinerated.

But doesn't the bin lorry compact to fit more in?

I'm still wondering about the families use of the word landfill. Why keep saying that when there aren't any? Are they just using a generic term so as not to name a certain company or do they really mean a landfill site?