UK - (Former prince) Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

[Cedars]

Labour's Dark Lord facing criminal inquiry: Mandelson reported police

Scotland Yard is reviewing revelations that the architect of New Labour passed on highly sensitive advice given to then-prime minister Gordon Brown.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Lord Mandelson fed information from Number Ten to Epstein for financial gain/sensitive information.

Mandelson got £75,000 in return, sent to his now husband.

Lord Peter Mandelson is pictured in his underpants with a woman in a robe beside him.

Lord Peter Mandelson should definitely be in jail. IMO, MOO etc.

He’s a pal, a great pal to PM Starmer.

Lord Mandelson is openly gay, so that is a puzzler.

 

[Inthedetails]

Lord Mandelson is openly gay, so that is a puzzler.

Perhaps to give the excuse "The girls/women were only providing massages! See - even Mandelson got one. Nothing more than massages."

IDK. Trying to make sense of corrupt elites is likely futile.

jmo

 

[RichardKimble]

Mandelson falls on his sword.

Mandelson to step down from House of Lords after Epstein revelations - live updates

PM Keir Starmer calls allegations that Lord Mandelson passed on sensitive government information to Epstein "disgraceful". Mandelson has been approached for comment.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[JDG]

Lord Mandelson is openly gay, so that is a puzzler.

Could be bi.

The main point is what he has done passing information to E.

The woman looks similar to MM. Very interesting.

 

[JDG]

Mandelson falls on his sword.

Mandelson to step down from House of Lords after Epstein revelations - live updates

PM Keir Starmer calls allegations that Lord Mandelson passed on sensitive government information to Epstein "disgraceful". Mandelson has been approached for comment.

www.bbc.co.uk

Prison for this dude. Coming soon I hope.

He HAS committed criminal activity. MOO, IMO

 

[JDG]

Perhaps to give the excuse "The girls/women were only providing massages! See - even Mandelson got one. Nothing more than massages."

IDK. Trying to make sense of corrupt elites is likely futile.

jmo

Why the robe for her then?

 

[JDG]

I meant that although other of Philip's descendants have Mountbatten as part of their names (eg Archie and Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor), most people probably don't know or care about that. And never knew or have forgotten what Philip's surname was. But with Andrew and his name now in an intense spotlight, pretty much everybody has heard the name "Mountbatten". And Andrew has brought shame upon it.

The Mountbatten name has been notorious for decades.

Louis Mountbatten brought shame to the name while the last Viceroy of India & due to his own scandals.

 

[Inthedetails]

Why the robe for her then?

I have no idea. Not my crowd, lol.

My question returns to: who took the photo? Who took any of the photos in the files that look so boring and mundane yet are compromising?

jmo

 

[JDG]

I have no idea. Not my crowd, lol.

My question returns to: who took the photo? Who took any of the photos in the files that look so boring and mundane yet are compromising?

jmo

It has been suggested that there were cameras everywhere in the homes.

All the better to blackmail the visitors.

I mean who walks around someone else’s house in their underpants?

 

[Inthedetails]

It has been suggested that there were cameras everywhere in the homes.

All the better to blackmail the visitors.

I mean who walks around someone else’s house in their underpants?

It makes sense the cameras were hidden because most photos are so....odd.

And that begs the question: where are all the photos? You don't install hidden cameras taking pictures for years without more photos than have been released.

My opinion - since I don't know about the world of hidden cameras and the ugly people who compromise each other for personal gain.

jmo

 

[Dotta]

I have no idea. Not my crowd, lol.

My question returns to: who took the photo? Who took any of the photos in the files that look so boring and mundane yet are compromising?

jmo

This photo was taken in E's apartment in Paris.

Peter Mandelson was pictured in his pants in Epstein's Paris flat

The paedophile financier entertained VIPs in the flat on Avenue Foch with a view of the Arc de Triomphe in the ultra-exclusive 16th arrondissement.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[JDG]

Another Royal, albeit married in.

Inside Mette-Marit of Norway's cosy friendship with Epstein

Mette-Marit, 52, shared friendly missives with the late paedophile financier discussing how 'Scandis' make better wives and plans to meet up in person.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Cedars]

IDK. Trying to make sense of corrupt elites is likely futile

IMO, the problem with any kind of elite is that joining one entirely depends on making connections with the 'right' person/people to get you in. Which builds the kind of loyalty also seen in the mafia, and in cults. Those bonds of personal loyalty run very, very deep.

It seems to me JE built some kind of personal brand of being 'elite', and others were drawn to him like moths to the flame. I don't believe it was all about the young women giving massages, IMO his mystique was also being some kind of unappointed VIP with magical connections to people with power and money.

JMO

 

[Inthedetails]

IMO, the problem with any kind of elite is that joining one entirely depends on making connections with the 'right' person/people to get you in. Which builds the kind of loyalty also seen in the mafia, and in cults. Those bonds of personal loyalty run very, very deep.

It seems to me JE built some kind of personal brand of being 'elite', and others were drawn to him like moths to the flame. I don't believe it was all about the young women giving massages, IMO his mystique was also being some kind of unappointed VIP with magical connections to people with power and money.

JMO

Agree. For years I've been saying, "It's not just about the girls!" It wasn't a sex ring as these powerful men could get any sex partner they wanted at any time, but it's about corruption far beyond that, at government levels.

And that's why the files are still not being released. It's too much.

Ugly, through and through.


jmo

 

[JDG]

Its been suggested that JE was a spy.

He hooked up with these people, blackmailed them etc.

He was very generous, word got about etc.

 

[Cedars]

Its been suggested that JE was a spy.

He hooked up with these people, blackmailed them etc.

He was very generous, word got about etc.

A blackmailing spy who openly bought information? IMO, people need to choose just one plot device and stick to it.

IMO, he was in the 'business' of high finance. So he would be looking for inside info that might affect financial markets, or create tax writeoffs, or loopholes in regulations. That seems to be what Manderling provided.

Then, maybe he used that info to increase /protect his own and his clients wealth, or maybe he shared the info to build connections with yet more people.

JMO

 

[JDG]

Melinda Gates throws ex-husband Bill to the wolves over Epstein

Melinda Gates held nothing back when reacting to the latest Epstein files release that alleged her billionaire ex-husband was having affairs with Russian girls during their marriage.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There’s a high profile, wealthy American they can question.

His ex has offered him up……

 

[mickey2942]

You don't hear much about Prince Edward, Andrew's youngest brother.

He wanted to speak out, to remember to respect Epstein's victims. Not sure what context he means...

Prince Edward Breaks Royal Family's Silence amid New Epstein Email Revelations on Andrew and Sarah Ferguson

Prince Edward addressed the Jeffrey Epstein controversy on Tuesday, Feb. 3. It comes after his brother Andrew and Sarah Ferguson appeared in new documents from the Epstein files

people.com

 

[Sillybilly]

C'mon folks .. the thread is about Andrew, not the entire world of Epstein.

Please stay on topic.

 

[Inthedetails]

There is a thread about Epstein, if that helps focus the convo.

TBH, I forget what thread I'm on - if it's Epstein or Andrew specifically.