GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #1

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WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 1m1 minute ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Defendant's son says father told him he had contacted Ms. Bailey's brother and was trying frantically to find her
 
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Stewart 'became frantic trying to help the police'

From Monday April 11 to Friday April 15, there had been no conversations about Helen being absent, Jamie told jurors.

“I was told there was going to be police at the house, and there were. Dad said Helen’s brother and her parents in Northumberland were all concerned about how Helen was.

“To me it appeared Dad was concerned and had made various searches and attempts to contact Helen, but couldn’t find her.

“Through the week he got more and more stressed. The following weekend he became frantic trying to help the police find her.

“Dad asked whether Helen had been in contact with me - she hadn’t.”


http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/new...bailey-murder-trial-week-12452783?98797?98098
 
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WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 1m1 minute ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Defendant's son testifies his father said Helen had left a note about her departure, but father had thrown it out
 
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WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 47s48 seconds ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Defendant's son testifies his father did not intially mention Bailey's body had been found in home's septic tank
 
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WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 55s55 seconds ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Defendant's son testifies father had never previously mentioned two men, Joe & Nick, who had taken Ms Bailey away
 
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Jamie Stewart thought Helen might have committed suicide

“I was told right from the start that Helen had left a note. Dad said he thought he’d thrown the note out with the rubbish. I never saw it.

“I left trying to contact Helen to other people.”

Jamie is asked about how Helen and Stewart normally dried bedding. He said it would be put over dining room chairs and wouldn’t be put in the tumble dryer. Jamie said Helen was in good health.

“One of the possibilities when Helen went missing, I thought Helen might have committed suicide but I discounted that. I didn’t say this to Dad.

“Boris had a yellow collar which was the go to collar when he was taken for walks. We couldn’t find that anywhere.”

On July 15, after Helen’s body was discovered, Jamie made another statement to police. He said he was shocked that her body was found.

Dad was arrested on July 11, 2016, and was released a few days later.

“Dad was very stressed out and concerned about what was going on, and why”, Jamie told jurors.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/new...bailey-murder-trial-week-12452783?98797?98098
 
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WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 2m2 minutes ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Defendant's son further testifies father had never mentioned Joe and Nick, who father claims put Bailey in tank

WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 1m1 minute ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Defendant's son testifies father never mentioned he was tasked by "Joe and Nick" to take Bailey's phone elsewhere
 
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WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 58s59 seconds ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Judge adjourns for lunch. Cross examination of defendant's son Jamie Stewart may continue this afternoon
 
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I wouldn't say it was necessarily very odd. It is a large house and we don't know what Helen's habits were.


Yes, am probably just working on how it would be for me. .... perhaps it was normal, if Helen was not downstairs, that JS knew she would be working and not want to be disturbed, or even having an early night
 
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The pale blue shirt he wore to the afternoon surgery appointment seems to be a sticking point with the defence.

I wonder is this to tie in with the doctors visit, to show that IS definately was in the solicitors on April 11, wearing same shirt he wore to the doctors appointment at 3pm on that day
 
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[FONT=&quot]On December 17, Jamie was interviewed again by police and was asked specifically about a number of questions.
Jamie said he was never made aware of two men called Joe and Nick, and denied his Dad had spoken to him and told him that the two men had taken Helen away.
“He didn’t tell me that one of the men had attacked him. He never said these two men were responsible for placing Helen’s body and the dog in the cesspit.
“He never mentioned to me that he was tasked to find Helen’s phone, and that he was told to take that phone to Broadstairs.
“He never said that my personal safety was at risk from these two men.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-week-12452783

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I wonder is this to tie in with the doctors visit, to show that IS definately was in the solicitors on April 11, wearing same shirt he wore to the doctors appointment at 3pm on that day

My guess is that cctv from the tip shows him wearing something different, so he possibly changed clothes.
 
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Is this just me or is that not very odd..... assumed Helen was home but never asked IS if she was joining them for supper, or if she was ok ????
I'm supposing that he might have but, that we're just not being told that.
How difficult it must be for him to be in court speaking at his Dad's trial :(
I could never put my kids through that ...
 
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Now it's coming out. They attacked him, threatened him and made him take Helen's phone to Broadstairs.

:facepalm:
 
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Now it's coming out. They attacked him, threatened him and made him take Helen's phone to Broadstairs.

:facepalm:

Yet he was free to go to a bowling match and get Chinese takeaway.

It all adds up.

:drumroll:
 
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Yet he was free to go to a bowling match and get Chinese takeaway.

It all adds up.

:drumroll:

And make sure the property sale goes through!!
 
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WMSky ‏@wmarxsky 55s55 seconds ago

Helen Bailey Murder Trial: Defendant's son testifies father had never previously mentioned two men, Joe & Nick, who had taken Ms Bailey away

IS definitely sounded as though he was making it up on the hoof.

It will be very interesting to hear the Prosecution's summing up. Jamie sounded as though he did well in the witness box. It must be so hard for him especially as it looks as though he had a good relationship with his dad.
 
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:liar:

:behindbar
 
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Can anyone remember what time of day IS went to the dump ?
 
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Yes, am probably just working on how it would be for me. .... perhaps it was normal, if Helen was not downstairs, that JS knew she would be working and not want to be disturbed, or even having an early night
I think this is the correct Bowls Club. A random Monday night fixture list shows a round commencing a 6.15pm and another at 8.15pm.

http://cambridgeandcountybc.co.uk/monday-evening/

I don't know how long a game of bowls takes, but judging by the two hour gap between games, I'm guessing it could have been close to 10pm when they left, with a 30 minute drive home according to google maps.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/C...x8a40dec658b24673!2m2!1d-0.024066!2d52.048142

So it may have been late(ish) when they returned home, and JS probably assumed HB was in bed.

A lot of guesswork has gone into this post, so happy to be corrected.
 
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