GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #3

[Interested Bystander]

Oh where did you find that out Lit Up?

I too read that before the trial started but according to family I believe the pathologist/coroner stated it epilepsy and one of them stating it was SUDEP.

 

[pinklilies]

Father of two Mr Stewart found his first wife Diane collapsed in the garden of their home after she suffered a fatal brain aneurysm.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14349...rested-after-returning-from-two-week-holiday/


This article is dated July 2016.
Who knows where they got their info from.

 

[BatFace]

Awful coincidence or not, it must be absolutely horrific for Diane's family at the moment- I can't even begin to imagine. To think they have spent the last few years trying to come to terms with her being taken from them so suddenly, and find some peace...and now to have the spectre of her also possibly being a victim of that sociopath, even if it isn't the case. So hard. So painful.

 

[snoopydog]

Father of two Mr Stewart found his first wife Diane collapsed in the garden of their home after she suffered a fatal brain aneurysm.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14349...rested-after-returning-from-two-week-holiday/

Who knows where they got their info from.

I'd go with SUDEP. That's what IS and his sister in law both said. That was what the coroner said according to them both however IS said the docs told him they actually didn't know what it was.


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[pinklilies]

I'd go with SUDEP. That's what IS and his sister in law both said. That was what the coroner said according to them both however IS said the docs told him they actually didn't know what it was.


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Sorry, I meant who knows where 'the sun' got their info from. It's an old article, it was just relevant to Tortoises query. Sort of.

 

[DollyDiamond]

The lyrics posted on that thread by Helen - Life Must Go On - are just desperately sad to read now.

That story Helen tells about comforting the elegant widow in the Highgate restaurant is very revealing about IS and their relationship. Helen was a confident, capable,well adjusted, kind and open hearted individual - IS was the polar opposite. Of course he discouraged her from speaking to the lady - 1/ He is a controlling sociopath, he doesn't want another person joining their cosy twosome because he can't control events and this person will put him under unwelcome scrutiny and 2/ As an evil psychopath he judges people by his own dark standards and expects strangers to be hostile. Unlike Helen, he does not trust the world and welcome it with open arms. How appalling that ultimately he used that trust against her!

I lived in Highgate for 20 years and was a frequent visitor to the Cafe Rouge, the best bistro there, so I feel that was probably the setting for this story and it really brings it home to me. The elegant widow lady must remember Helen's kindness that day with such sadness, knowing now that she was a lamb to the slaughter. It breaks my heart that Helen was so unhappy and wretched after losing her husband so tragically. And then just when she should be getting back on her feet and beginning a bright new future - she meets Ian Stewart. It was the most appalling, freakish piece of bad luck imaginable, especially after the freakish bad luck of her husband's unexpected death.

I find it so hard to make sense of this on so many levels! It must be sheer torture for those who knew and loved Helen.

 

[Tortoise]

Sorry, I meant who knows where 'the sun' got their info from. It's an old article, it was just relevant to Tortoises query. Sort of.

Maybe they got it from someone in the facebook group.

 

[DollyDiamond]

Father of two Mr Stewart found his first wife Diane collapsed in the garden of their home after she suffered a fatal brain aneurysm.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/14349...rested-after-returning-from-two-week-holiday/


This article is dated July 2016.
Who knows where they got their info from.

I guess the biggest question regarding the unexpected death is IS' first wife is did he benefit from it financially? That's got to be the clincher and the first thing anyone investigating it will look into.

 

[Alyce]

She doesn't actually say either of them were at Salford uni. She says whilst she was at Salford uni.... could be they were just in the area or I'm picking at the wording too much...


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I was musing the same !

If they were all at Uni, then DS and her friend were just starting, as new students, in October 1981, whilst IS would have been a 3rd year student by that time.

 

[pinklilies]

Arghh, I've not made myself very clear. I'm not particularly asking if anyone knows where the Sun got their info from, more saying it with a roll of my eyes.
Sorry for any confusion [emoji4]

 

[DollyDiamond]

Yes it is like 'everyone is giving the impression of being worried'

Odd

This is where murdering psychopaths ultimately fall down, they cannot impersonate non-psychopaths convincingly when the chips are down. Who says, when their beloved fiance has gone missing: "Everyone seems worried"? A murdering psychopath, that's who!

 

[Tortoise]

This is where murdering psychopaths ultimately fall down, they cannot impersonate non-psychopaths convincingly when the chips are down. Who says, when their beloved fiance has gone missing: "Everyone seems worried"? A murdering psychopath, that's who!

And so inappropriate for him to say he was angry with her at a time that in most everyone's mind she had come to some sort of harm. He was desperate to make it clear he thought she was alive and deliberately eluding him. Insert expletive here.

 

[snoopydog]

I saw a few other dodgy bits and bobs on the fb page.... the drunk post I mentioned he said it was 10 months to the day his wife died and he wasn't bothered. Really not the best way with words....

maybe he wasn't upset but to say you're not bothered is just odd. That's the same post he couldn't work out how to delete....


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[Duchy]

I'd go with SUDEP. That's what IS and his sister in law both said. That was what the coroner said according to them both however IS said the docs told him they actually didn't know what it was.


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A common sign of a ruptured aneurysm is a seizure.

 

[Tortoise]

WHAT????????*********

Oh no. no no no.

(in response to Snoopydog's post)

 

[Tortoise]

I can't get over that.

 

[Tortoise]

I wonder if Helen ever saw that.

 

[snoopydog]

I wonder if Helen ever saw that.

It was before she joined I think but I'm sure she would have searched back his posts.


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[Duchy]

I saw a few other dodgy bits and bobs on the fb page.... the drunk post I mentioned he said it was 10 months to the day his wife died and he wasn't bothered. Really not the best way with words....

maybe he wasn't upset but to say you're not bothered is just odd. That's the same post he couldn't work out how to delete....


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Good grief!

 

[Alyce]

I saw a few other dodgy bits and bobs on the fb page.... the drunk post I mentioned he said it was 10 months to the day his wife died and he wasn't bothered. Really not the best way with words....

maybe he wasn't upset but to say you're not bothered is just odd. That's the same post he couldn't work out how to delete....


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Same expression he used in police interviews, couldn't be bothered any more after a few questions