GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #5

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Greetings, websleuthers! I've been away for ten days caring for my mum after she had an operation - catching up on the trial has been a full time job since yesterday! Many thanks to everyone who contributes to this informative, lively and thought provoking page.

I cannot BELIEVE the lies tripping out of this man's mouth. As one simple example, it's worth pointing out that he refers to his supposed "PhD" offer from Cambridge as being a "course" which he regretted not completing due to an unrefusable job offer. A PhD is not a "course" - the whole point is that it is an independently conducted piece of academic research that takes a minimum of three years to carry out (and as others have observed, is invariably prefaced with a Master's degree of some kind.) Many PhD candidates work in related - or indeed non-related - fields whilst carrying out their doctoral research, because funding is never generous and the research can often take a long time. So in his case, the offer of Herts/Cambs based work would have been a boon, not necessarily something that killed off his academic career.

I am hopeful that the prosecution will quiz him about this at some point - e.g. asking him which college he was affiliated with - as he would not be able to blag his way out of it convincingly. Anything that highlights his rewriting of history will draw attention to the fact that he is an extremely unreliable witness.

The other thing that really jumped out at me is his assertion that "Helen googled zopliclone" and told him it did not go with his condition of myasthenia gravis. This is certainly the case if you google the drug, but for that very reason I find it hard to credit that any GP would prescribe this drug for a patient with this condition.

I too have an unusual auto-immune disease, vasculitis (fortunately largely in abeyance these days)and my GP is obviously aware of it. If I am ever prescribed any drug for any other condition, they always do a quick check on line before prescribing. So I am at a loss as to why IS would be prescribed these pills at all, let alone on two separate occasions, if his myasthenia gravis was as persistent and disabling -a d therefire surely known to his primary doctor - as he claims.

I also find it curious that Helen seems to have made no mention either on her blogs or to friends about IS's apparently severe, chronic illness.

Auto-immune disease can ebb and flow over the years (as I have discovered myself) and I find myself wondering whether IS was genuinely diagnosed with MG many years ago, being quite poorly, but then found himself in remission and more or less symptom free for a long period of time. If MG was not in his recent past, and therefore not high up on his notes, it might explain how a GP could prescribe him zopliclone tablets (twice). This however would mean his descriptions of weakness, illness, and the whole general invalid palaver are as fictional as the shadowy "Joe and Nick".

Curiouser and curiouser...
 
  • #542
Isn't it a good job that John Bailey and his partner are both calm, restrained people. Some family members being put through this mockery would have launched themselves across the court, or had to leave. It really must be unbearable for them.

Look how we feel about it and then times that by 100.

ETA -and her friends too.
I am speechless today - with disbelief in the way he can sully Helen's beautiful gifts of emotional intelligence. Thank goodness we had the opportunity to know her way of thinking before this bilious idiot tries to tell us everything she is NOT.
He generally has the habit of embellishing a fraction of truth with his monstrous lies - but today we hear his total invention of facts.
Hope he is enjoying his lunch - and stoking up his energy levels ready for the Prosecution XX in the days to come.
 
  • #543
Kate Bradbrook ‏@katebradbrook 1m1 minute ago

#helenbailey Ian Stewart asked if he could have lifted lid of cesspit on his own before his operation. He replied "no


and here we have it of course....nope, I could only do it with someone else - the one person who is no longer alive to dispute this !
 
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Dominic Reynolds Verified account ‏@domreynolds 2m2 minutes ago

IS explains had poor mobility after cancer operation. "Could you have picked up a dead body of the weight of HB?" "No.
 
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Kate Bradbrook ‏@katebradbrook 1m1 minute ago

#helenbailey Ian Stewart asked if he could have picked up or dragged body to cesspit "no". Said any pushing or pulling painful
 
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Chloe Keedy ‏@ChloeKeedyITV 5m5 minutes ago

Stewart is asked if could have opened lid of cesspit in garage on his own before his operation. Stewart says he never tried.

Stewart asked if he could have opened cesspit lid on his own after his operation. He replies 'no
 
  • #547
Just catching up....wanted to scream when I read that he implicates Helen in taking the Zopiclone. Thankfully he is also on record as saying that she didn't take medication, only vitamins.

I really hope that Trimmer is going to go for the jugular this afternoon and wipe the floor with him.


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  • #548
BIB - he's saying that they were hers. He's likely making this up . We don't have any GP evidence that she had them prescribed
none in her system

The earlier evidence was that she had regular / annual health checks and was a healthy woman. Now I see why the prosecution had that evidence in.
 
  • #549
so the cancer scare is now a full blown cancer operation, my head hurts
 
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Kate Bradbrook ‏@katebradbrook 1m1 minute ago

#helenbailey Ian Stewart asked if he could have picked up or dragged body to cesspit "no". Said any pushing or pulling painful

We knew it would happen!
 
  • #551
We're back

The case has now been called back on.
 
  • #552
I couldn't have lifted cess pit lid"

Stewart said he last opened the cess pit lid in February/March last year with Helen.

“Before my operation I couldn’t have done this on my own. After my operation, I couldn’t have opened it on my own either.

“The physical effect upon me of that operation on March 18, although the wound was small, just reaching up, bending over or getting out of cars was painful.

“When I was in hospital it was less painful, but it became infected and was more painful at home.

“By July my wound was still not comfortable, it’s always ached and still does.

“That’s where this hernia has recently diagnosed, right on my belly button.”


bless, never misses an opportunity to get in another ailment does he
 
  • #553
Could you have picked up a dead body?"

Defence barrister Simon Russell Flint: “Could you have picked up a dead body of the weight of Helen Bailey and carried a body over your shoulder?”

Stewart: “No.”

Mr Russell Flint: “It was going to be suggested you might have dragged her, from in the house or wherever, on the duvet?”

Stewart: “No, any pushing or pulling was intensely painful. I also felt weak as well. If we wanted anything moved, like furniture, I waited for Jamie and Oliver to get home.”



always waited for J and O to help.... but not with cess pit lids it would seem
 
  • #554
Why is he telling this unlikely story about he and Helen lifting the cess pit lid together all the time? How is this supposed to help his case? :dunno:
 
  • #555
I couldn't have lifted cess pit lid"

Stewart said he last opened the cess pit lid in February/March last year with Helen.

“Before my operation I couldn’t have done this on my own. After my operation, I couldn’t have opened it on my own either.

“The physical effect upon me of that operation on March 18, although the wound was small, just reaching up, bending over or getting out of cars was painful.

“When I was in hospital it was less painful, but it became infected and was more painful at home.

“By July my wound was still not comfortable, it’s always ached and still does.

“That’s where this hernia has recently diagnosed, right on my belly button.”


bless, never misses an opportunity to get in another ailment does he

If he has now got a hernia, it would most likely be from lifting heavy items (cesspit lid) and also dragging a 'dead weight' weeks after surgery.


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  • #556
Joe has arrived!


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  • #557
Helen’s late husband, John Sinfield

Stewart is now being asked about the businesses of Helen’s late husband, John Sinfield.

He said he heard about the MusicScope company.

“That was a great cause of concern for Helen.

“Helen never liked David Jensen, when she started out with John, she told me that David made a pass at her which she rejected.

“Helen can never quite understand why David, John and Chris went into business together.

“She always felt that David must have something over John, she couldn’t understand why this business was set up.”
 
  • #558
But Joe has hair (not bald) with no mention of tattoos!


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MusicScope

Stewart: “John Sinfield had not left a will, or one couldn’t be found easily. There was one found eventually.

“On his death, MusicScope should have been shut down because it was a partnership, Helen was told.

“Because they couldn’t find a will, somehow David Jensen’s old boss was the executor of John’s will.

“I couldn’t understand this because they didn’t get on with him as well for some reason.

“The executor came to Helen’s house and took loads of documentation away, he did it quite nastily and quite rudely.”
 
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The company owed money"

“Almost the next day, a new partner David Jensen’s wife, was taken on.

“Helen knew there was assets in that company, but the executor said there was no money and to this day John’s will has not gone to probate because of this.

“Helen was having to use lawyers. Effectively she found out the company owed money.

“She sold the car as she thought it was John Sinfield’s, she didn’t give that back.

“Helen was asked to sign a document saying that MusicScope didn’t owe John Sinfield any money, but she wanted a fair and reasonable settlement for his estate basically.

“This went on for two or three years after John’s death.”
 
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