Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #3 *ARREST*

[CoverMeCagney]

Interesting thought - have we seen any footage of dogs assisting the search yet?

Very good question. I haven't heard anything about dogs, but scent or cadaver dogs should still be able to sniff anything out.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

View attachment 168320 View attachment 168321 View attachment 168322 "The forensic team seem to be taking close up photos and putting down markers"

Police get more time to quiz Libby suspect as search continues

Time of photos approx 19:54 Saturday 9th Feb 2019.

Look how dark it is there too. Makes me shiver. Poor girl.

 

[truthfinder34]

i agree. why would you go outside if you had a car. im sure libby was feeling the cold by this point, why would she get out of a car.

 

[jessie]

If she is still alive like we are all hoping which is the best outcome in this case then who would be keeping watch over her so she don’t escape? has the last few days he has been in police custody and why would the screaming have stopped after 15 minutes?

I do think the police would keep searching the river if that’s the case I remember the Megan Roberts case in York it did take a few weeks to find her

I recall Megan Roberts too. Poor Megan wasn't found for what, going on 2 months? Also the river had taken her quite a few miles downstream IIRC. Terrible tragedy.

 

[MancGuy Uk]

Well from the current developments Ive passed for thought.
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When she was on the bench and it was cold that night so in wondering if he offered if she wanted to sit in his car rather than out in the cold, possibly said can we go for a drive. If your upset sometimes this helps calm down.

During the drive something was said or done she panicked, he made an advance, I'm thinking is there are traffic lights near the park? She wanted to get away from him and the best option to evade someone in a car is the park. Snow was still on the ground then. This is the assumption the reported screams were her, but going by police presence it points towards this.

He ran after her, either with bad intentions or maybe just to sort out the misunderstanding. If she was attacked and murdered in the park I would think this would leave substantial trace evidence and be alot quicker than 30 minutes. Another possibility he ran after her in a chasing and hiding senerio and could of fell in the river.

I guess he could use the excuse she needed the loo and took her to a park, but are they even open at night? Seems very odd, put plausible and he mentioned that he had a ciggerettte on the bench they were examining.

Possibly having no phone, no keys, being in the cold, and probably needing the loo after having lots of drinks might have clouded her judgement just 10 - 15 minutes before she turned down a lift from a stranger why would she except a lift from a another? I think to get her into his car he must have bragged about being a taxi driver something someone close to her said in an appeal she would not get into a car with a stranger I think that if she had her mobile phone on her which sadly she didn’t she would have contacted one of her friends and told them about having no key and called a tax with a number saved in her phone to go back to bar

 

[Ruki]

I was wondering after LS had been in the car and had started to warm up she decided she needed the toilet after all the drink she’d had earlier. This could be the reason they ended up at the park. Just at the entrance of the parks car park there are toilets there. I think someone mentioned in an earlier post that it was a house on its own, but I walked around there on google and can quite clearly see the two doors and just make out the sign of the female entrance. Things could have have gone from bad to worse once they arrived there. Well it is a possibility maybe. Also a couple of days ago the police blocked the car park off to the public and that’s what made me take a walk to see what the building was.

The house the poster was referring to is (I think) on the other side of the entrance from the toilets (right side vs left). Someone posted saying the toilets would most likely be locked if it was an area known to have youngsters drinking and doing drugs in, especially late at night, and I have to agree that's likely as they do the same here in parks. It's not outside the realm of possibility you would think of going there for that though, especially as places like McDonalds closed at 12.

 

[MancGuy Uk]

I recall Megan Roberts too. Poor Megan wasn't found for what, going on 2 months? Also the river had taken her quite a few miles downstream IIRC. Terrible tragedy.

Very tragic

 

[sundaaaay]

Another possibility is they were smoking weed and she got really paranoid and ran off into the dark. Sometimes it can hit you like a tonne of bricks...

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I recall Megan Roberts too. Poor Megan wasn't found for what, going on 2 months? Also the river had taken her quite a few miles downstream IIRC. Terrible tragedy.

5 weeks, I just checked.
Realistically and horrifyingly, Libby could be in the sea, it's only 3-4 miles away.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Annoyingly, I can't get into the carpark on streetview. Do you have a picture of the toilet entrance? The house I'm referring to is the red brick one which looks like a private home. I can see on an aerial view that there is another building on the other side of the car park but can't look at it from the ground.

Try this link Google Maps

 

[Sera]

That's a really good point. Also, pitch black (presumably). V tricky handling a torch/phone with torch and a person? I think he would have got v muddy too.

It was below freezing that night and maybe snowing too, either way I think ground would have been frozen solid as the pond was completely iced over the next morning. So possible he wouldn't have got very muddy because of frozen mud? JMO.

 

[Deleted member 238128]

Sat navs...excuse my ignorance, but can you tell from them when an address was entered? For example, if the suspect only discovered Libby’s address retrospectively from news reports, could he then enter it into the sat nav, to make it look like he had been to her house? Or are dates/ times of entry recorded?

 

[Elainera]

This evening CSI turned up and spent about 90 minutes placing evidence markers down around a bench and photographing it. This coincided with the news they have agreed the final 24 hours arrest extension. It means that 9:11pm Sunday is crunch time - charge or release

EDIT sorry, do I mean SOCO not CSI?!

Thank you Cags!

After 9 days I wouldn't expect they can find much of use anymore.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

It was below freezing that night and maybe snowing too, either way I think ground would have been frozen solid as the pond was completely iced over the next morning. So possible he wouldn't have got very muddy because of frozen mud? JMO.

I had forgotten about the snow. And iced over pond too. You're right, ground would have been hard even on the river bank I would think

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Also in my link above if you look to the far side of the car park at the yellow gate/barrier and look just above it and to the right of the tree you can make out a bench in "free space" along the path at the side of the football/cricket pitch. I think this might be the bench the CSI team were at?

 

[Sera]

Can anyone tell by description and/or photos of suspect whether they think he'd be able to carry Libby easily? Say, in a fireman's lift type of carry. I'm around Libby's height and body type and I know my partner can easily carry me quite far if he had to. I'm wondering if PR could potentially have carried Libby to the river with ease, maybe even whilst holding his phone/torch in his other hand? Could be a completely idiotic theory, I'm very tired again, this case has kept me awake for a week now.

 

[cheekychap]

Sat navs...excuse my ignorance, but can you tell from them when an address was entered? For example, if the suspect only discovered Libby’s address retrospectively from news reports, could he then enter it into the sat nav, to make it look like he had been to her house?

Time and date stamps would show this. I can't imagine he would cover his tracks by driving to her address after the park incident.

 

[jessie]

Try this link Google
Maps

The park has gates then? So surely they would be locked at night? So how could he/they have reached the bench? In her state it would be a fair walk from the roadway, is that likely she would manage it?

 

[sundaaaay]

Thats a very good point about frozen mud...it does make areas which are inaccessible normally, much more navigable, like access to water. And the perennial vegetation will be underground at this time of year. If you cant see anything in the dark, you would be relying on tactic indicators such as...if it is getting muddy your probably approaching water, but because the mud was frozen you'd never know.

 

[cheekychap]

I had forgotten about the snow. And iced over pond too. You're right, ground would have been hard even on the river bank I would think

Past weather just north of the park.
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