UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

[Bekind89]

I'm expecting reports of her making homemade Christmas gifts for the other inmates, all with own two murderous little hands.
It will be utterly sickening.

 

[Sweeper2000]

I'm expecting reports of her making homemade Christmas gifts for the other inmates, all with own two murderous little hands.
It will be utterly sickening.

Like hats made from the units cats skin?

 

[Marantz4250b]

I'm expecting reports of her making homemade Christmas gifts for the other inmates, all with own two murderous little hands.
It will be utterly sickening.

^^^^^^^^^ This - definitely!

I wonder if her PR team are reading this - I bet we're Royally screwing up their plans!

 

[Dotta]

You guys make me chuckle really hard hahahaha

 

[Sweeper2000]

Like hats made from the units cats skin?

I find it interesting how that joke got less positive responses than the cannibalism joke.

"liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti."

I might be reading into it too much but I think people need to do some shadow work.

As if eating someone's liver is not worse than making a hat out of a dead cat.

Anyway I digress and certainly do not digest.

 

[Dotta]

Well,
I can see that my link to DM got bashed (again hehe) as fictional.

But,
to be honest,
I'm not so sure it is pure fiction.

I read many times in different MSM that LL was a "model prisoner".
And the fact she was given the privilege of TV channels in her cell is easy to check
and it is standard nowadays to reward inmates who don't cause trouble.

Isn't it called "positive reinforcement"?

I also think it is obvious that a person tries to fight boredom
by taking part in various activities organized by prison staff.

Prison workers do their best to engage inmates in jobs and activities
in order to prevent trouble and serious problems caused by boredom.

"Idle hands ..." and all this, hehehe

It is standard practice in today's prisons.

JMO

 

[Marantz4250b]

To be fair, the article is probably not far from the truth. It's maybe not the 100% literal truth because it seems difficult to believe that any "sources" are going to be entirely trustworthy. Unless the source is identified (which they won't be) the media can print absolutely anything they want.

But, yes, it's probably a pretty good account of what her life is like. To be totally honest, from what we know of her, I'd expect her to be a fairly well behaved prisoner. The impression of her we got from the trial, pre-trial and post-trial reporting never painted her as some rampaging monster who constantly picked fights or sought to wind people up the wrong way. Not any more than any other young woman of her age in any event.

She is basically just someone who comes across as totally and utterly normal - other than the baby murdering bit, obviously.

Having said all that, I'm still of the opinion that there is more to come out about her. I think there's something strange, dark or wierd in her backstory that we haven't heard yet. The fact that there is still a police investigation going on is what is keeping it under wraps at the moment, imo. People in certain places know more than they are saying, I think.

 

[marynnu]

It's still on it seems. Watch this space.

 

[marynnu]

I find it interesting how that joke got less positive responses than the cannibalism joke.

"liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti."

I might be reading into it too much but I think people need to do some shadow work.

As if eating someone's liver is not worse than making a hat out of a dead cat.

Anyway I digress and certainly do not digest.

It's not as bad.

 

[Sweeper2000]

I find the come dine with me particularly believable maybe not the scale "obsessed". Just a colloquially used word meant to define very interested in.

It's not as bad.

Not at all surprised you like cats. The liver did take me by surprise though

 

[marynnu]

I find the come dine with me particularly believable maybe not the scale "obsessed". Just a colloquially used word meant to define very interested in.


Not at all surprised you like cats. The liver did take me by surprise though

I don't eat meat, do human livers count though?

 

[Sweeper2000]

I don't eat meat, do human livers count though?

At a scale of 3 to 1 yes

 

[Sweeper2000]

Speaking of freaks. Just seen a fb post about writing "free Lucy letby" Christmas cards. I mean what in the actual f is that, seriously what is that? If someone gave me one I'd be angry and I mean genuinely angry. Bring something like that into a time when me and my family are celebrating? Nah that's too much. I'd be absolutely livid to the point of it getting kinetic.

 

[Baileyboo]

Speaking of freaks. Just seen a fb post about writing "free Lucy letby" Christmas cards. I mean what in the actual f is that, seriously what is that? If someone gave me one I'd be angry and I mean genuinely angry. Bring something like that into a time when me and my family are celebrating? Nah that's too much. I'd be absolutely livid to the point of it getting kinetic.

They are crackers on that Facebook page.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Hmmmm I struggled to make heads or tails of this article. Anyone explain? I've got an idea but would need others pov's.

"Cheshire Police are being urged to release strategic decision logs of the Lucy Letby investigation over fears they did not follow correct procedure.

The force has been accused of fixating on Letby and of not following alternative lines of inquiry, or challenging the narrative of doctors at the Countess of Chester Hospital or expert witnesses."

Letby police ‘decided she was guilty from the start’

Investigation was ‘unconsciously skewed by confirmation bias’, says former assistant chief constable

www.telegraph.co.uk

I don't think it is impactive but that's just my opinion.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Bit if character assassination from Mark McDonald here as well.

Complaints made by Guernsey based families about a doctor practicing in the island will be included in the bundle of evidence being presented to the Criminal Cases Review Commission by Lucy Letby’s legal team as she tries to appeal her conviction for murdering babies.

Letby appeal documents to include local complaints - Bailiwick Express News Guernsey

Complaints made by Guernsey based families about a doctor practicing in the island will be included in the bundle of evidence being presented to the Criminal Cases Review Commission by Lucy Letby’s legal team as she tries to appeal her conviction for murdering babies. The former neonatal nurse...

www.bailiwickexpress.com

 

[WaneLyrical]

Hmmmm I struggled to make heads or tails of this article. Anyone explain? I've got an idea but would need others pov's.

"Cheshire Police are being urged to release strategic decision logs of the Lucy Letby investigation over fears they did not follow correct procedure.

The force has been accused of fixating on Letby and of not following alternative lines of inquiry, or challenging the narrative of doctors at the Countess of Chester Hospital or expert witnesses."

Letby police ‘decided she was guilty from the start’

Investigation was ‘unconsciously skewed by confirmation bias’, says former assistant chief constable

www.telegraph.co.uk

I don't think it is impactive but that's just my opinion.

Why don’t you think it’s impactive?

An assistant chief constable who himself has conducted large scale investigations into healthcare deaths and who drew up the policy for investigating such deaths, saying Hummingbird was a product of confirmation bias.

Must be another Letbyist, nothing to see here?

 

[Sweeper2000]

Why don’t you think it’s impactive?

An assistant chief constable who himself has conducted large scale investigations into healthcare deaths and who drew up the policy for investigating such deaths, saying Hummingbird was a product of confirmation bias.

Must be another Letbyist, nothing to see here?

Nah not even that. Based purely on the evidence and testimony at trial. How is it that this one individual could possibly impact the results of Hummingbird simply through stating "confirmation bias". Say if things had gone more in line with what he now thinks would twh result have been any different? I don't think so. I remember saying that if the prosecution really wanted to make it watertight they could have done the whole "ask a doc on the med files" same way they did with Dr Evans Nd what would twh result have been? The same is my bet.

Also that as it stands there is still no accepted or viable alternative theory to the prosecutions. Although yes we wait for the courts and processes.

 

[Charlot123]

Hmmmm I struggled to make heads or tails of this article. Anyone explain? I've got an idea but would need others pov's.

"Cheshire Police are being urged to release strategic decision logs of the Lucy Letby investigation over fears they did not follow correct procedure.

The force has been accused of fixating on Letby and of not following alternative lines of inquiry, or challenging the narrative of doctors at the Countess of Chester Hospital or expert witnesses."

Letby police ‘decided she was guilty from the start’

Investigation was ‘unconsciously skewed by confirmation bias’, says former assistant chief constable

www.telegraph.co.uk

I don't think it is impactive but that's just my opinion.

(All superstitions stem from cognitive biases. In XXI century, however, we should accept them for what they are, “irrational, albeit comforting, beliefs”.)

Lucy Letby’s case raises a bigger question. How come so many professionals, be it doctors, policemen, journalists, or the court system seemed to show the same pattern of cognition?

Were these different specialists privy to all the facts and aware of their significance before the trial started?

Before we blame the police for not relying on statistics, there is a serious question to ask the doctors involved:

- was the fact of Pseudomonas infestation of COCH NICU in 2015-16 ever disclosed to the police before Operation Hummingbird?

- Was the gravity of this fact explained to the policemen?

If not, the police’s fault might be less, but that of the doctors, surely, more.

I found about the infection after Lucy Letby’s trial. What about the public? Were the expectant mothers planning to give birth in COCH in 2015 aware of it? Didn’t they have the right to know? Was the trial jury aware of what Pseudomonas was?

Dr. Evans was abreast of this, and probably, other things, during his investigation. In his long list of specialists involved, mentioned in the article, sanitary control is glaringly lacking. Drs. Breary, Jayaram, Gibbs, all knew of it. The CEO of the hospital knew.

My question is, was this fact (P. Aeruginosa) shared with Professor Jane Hutton, the statistician initially employed by the police, the one who was let go?

You see, she planned to investigate other factors contributing into NICU mortality and then suddenly the police let her go. Was the decision made solely by the police? Or was the hospital involved, too?

 

[katydid23]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1982764069900751252

"Letby, who murdered seven babies and attempted to murder seven more,
is entitled to a Freeview TV package due to her good behaviour behind bars.

A source said:
'She's in for the most horrific crimes
but is a model prisoner.

She engages in everything from unit cleaning and workshops and education.

The only time she asks to go back to her cell is when
a Come Dine With Me marathon is on.
She absolutely loves it and can't miss it'.

The 35-year-old is reportedly known as a massive 'foodie'
at HMP Bronzefield in Surrey,
where she is currently serving a full-life term."

It must be really depressing to watch tv shows about fine gourmet dining, knowing you are going to be eating the worst, boring bland foods possible, forever.