GUILTY UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

[May72031]

The Letbyists are out in force with their theories and support, today.

One Letbyist has released a video of herself singing a "Lucy Letby Ditty". Listen if you dare...
Lucy Letby Ditty

Meanwhile, another mad Letbyist is claiming her mugshot was "altered" to remove emotions from her face...
"Was Lucy Letby's Mugshot Altered?"

 

[marynnu]

The Letbyists are out in force with their theories and support, today.

One Letbyist has released a video of herself singing a "Lucy Letby Ditty". Listen if you dare...
Lucy Letby Ditty

Meanwhile, another mad Letbyist is claiming her mugshot was "altered" to remove emotions from her face...
"Was Lucy Letby's Mugshot Altered?"

 

[Parker Knoll]

Mods !

Please let’s have a WTAF emoji

 

[mummyshark]

As a mother of 3 babies who have spent time in neonatal units, and someone who followed the trial, I am absolutely appalled that there are people waving the Letby flag. This monster was convicted of killing babies. She doesn’t deserve a fan club! Her conviction is not dubious. The absence of a motive seems to be keeping this case alive, purely because people don't understand it. You don't need to understand it, a jury of her peers AFTER HEARING ALL OF THE EVIDENCE came to the conclusion that she is guilty. We may speculate forever about her motive, but the evidence is clear. And, although it's been said many times, the evidence was obviously considered in each case independently, which is why the jury returned different decisions, and couldn't reach a decision on some of the charges. But, on the charges she was found guilty of, there was sufficient evidence, and they are now considered fact.

We don't know why she did this and most likely we never will. But she did, she has been caught, she's been convicted, found guilty and she's where she belongs in order to keep the public safe.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2017986509056385297

 

[Marantz4250b]

That is just crazy! Having said that, literally nothing about this case surprises me anymore. Nothing!

 

[SilentHill]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2017986509056385297

They can call it being a scapegoat, I prefer damage control personally.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Just a heads up Netflix new documentary is out tomorrow. New advert is out as well and I do think it's going to be interesting. From what I saw she just looks like someone thinking "poor me" but big time and seemingly inappropriately as well. I think most would be wondering what the hell is going on she just seems sullen.

 

[Marantz4250b]

More click-bait nonsense from the Guardian.

Lucy Letby documentary reveals first admission of ‘tiny’ doubt from doctors who accused her

Netflix film revisits evidence that led to Letby’s conviction and hears from expert who says his research was misused

www.theguardian.com

“I live with two guilts,” he says. “Guilt that we let the babies down, and tiny, tiny, tiny guilt: did we get the wrong person? You know, just in case: a miscarriage of justice. I don’t think there was a miscarriage of justice, but you worry that no one actually saw her do it.”

The headline is certainly disingenuous, imo.

Anyone who has had a hand in locking someone away for the rest of their life - and who isn't an absolute sociopath (which is 90%+ of the population) - is going to have such small doubts. It's a perfectly, perfectly, perfectly normal human emotion you would expect to find in the vast majority of people.

Intimating/suggesting that it amounts to the first signs of actual, rational doubt in the prosecution case is ludicrous, quite frankly.

 

[Parker Knoll]

Eughhhhhhhhh.
McDonald has sunk even further if that’s actually possible.

 

[Sarahlou]

I wasn't sure whether to watch the documentary but I've just seen Peter Hitchens urging people not to watch. So on my watchlist it goes!

 

[Marantz4250b]

I'm watching tonight so no spoilers, please!

 

[Parker Knoll]

Interesting extra details but that is all.
Let’s discuss later when people have had chance to watch it.

 

[Marantz4250b]

So - yes, I agree that there were very few truly new details in it. Although I did find the additional body cam and interview footage of her interesting.

However.......!!

There was one very small detail that I think was mentioned only the once, and only very briefly which, to me at least, struck like a frying pan to the face. It absolutely proved, without any doubt, that she was lying.

She always claimed that the 257 hand-over sheets she had in her possession (the documentary said "almost 250" but it was, as we all know, 257) had simply "...come home with her...". In the police interview she said very specifically that they were the result of her forgetting to empty her pockets out at the hospital after a shift - 257 times!

It was pointed out, however, that these sheets - all of them - were found stored in chronological order. Not only that but a police evidence photograph of their discovery shows them stacked neatly on a shelf. That is not how someone deals with random papers that have no significance to them!!!

Random bits of meaningless paper don't get stored neatly and chronologically in a fashion that suggests they are important to the person who's in possession of them! If they were just inadvertently retained documents that have little meaning to a person then you'd expect to find them stuffed into drawers and scattered around various parts of the house, some left in coat pockets, etc. Like I do with brown envelopes from HMRC.

So, the unluckiest nurse in the history of humanity, who has unfortunate incident after unfortunate incident occur over the course of only a few months (and none when she's on holidays) linking her to some of the worst crimes imaginable, also has the mahoosive misfortune to accidentally stack every single one of the confidential hand-over sheets, that should never have left the hospital, in datal order........whilst also completely forgetting that she owned a shredder????? No frickin chance matey!

No wonder she said "....are you going to search the house?" on the bodycam video when she was arrested.

Maybe I'm making more significance of this than is proper but, imo, it just comes over as absolutely damning.

 

[Sarahlou]

So - yes, I agree that there were very few truly new details in it. Although I did find the additional body cam and interview footage of her interesting.

However.......!!

There was one very small detail that I think was mentioned only the once, and only very briefly which, to me at least, struck like a frying pan to the face. It absolutely proved, without any doubt, that she was lying.

She always claimed that the 257 hand-over sheets she had in her possession (the documentary said "almost 250" but it was, as we all know, 257) had simply "...come home with her...". In the police interview she said very specifically that they were the result of her forgetting to empty her pockets out at the hospital after a shift - 257 times!

It was pointed out, however, that these sheets - all of them - were found stored in chronological order. Not only that but a police evidence photograph of their discovery shows them stacked neatly on a shelf. That is not how someone deals with random papers that have no significance to them!!!

Random bits of meaningless paper don't get stored neatly and chronologically in a fashion that suggests they are important to the person who's in possession of them! If they were just inadvertently retained documents that have little meaning to a person then you'd expect to find them stuffed into drawers and scattered around various parts of the house, some left in coat pockets, etc. Like I do with brown envelopes from HMRC.

So, the unluckiest nurse in the history of humanity, who has unfortunate incident after unfortunate incident occur over the course of only a few months (and none when she's on holidays) linking her to some of the worst crimes imaginable, also has the mahoosive misfortune to accidentally stack every single one of the confidential hand-over sheets, that should never have left the hospital, in datal order........whilst also completely forgetting that she owned a shredder????? No frickin chance matey!

No wonder she said "....are you going to search the house?" on the bodycam video when she was arrested.

Maybe I'm making more significance of this than is proper but, imo, it just comes over as absolutely damning.

I agree! That is something that really stood out to me too.
I find it crazy that anyone could brush this (and all the other evidence) aside and think she's innocent.

 

[Marantz4250b]

I thought the bodycam of her arrests were enlightening. The first one especially so.

Up to now, we'd only seen the parts of her answering the door and being led out. The parts inside the house were interesting. Now, obviously, I have no experience of how people react when they are arrested on suspicion of murder at 6am in July. However, I would think that, were you indeed innocent, then you would be protesting loudly and asking wtaf was going on. Okay, I get that she probably had some inclination that the police were involved but, still....not a single protestation of innocence? Nothing?

My opinion - she knew it was coming at some point. She was clearly shocked, anyone would be, but surprised??

 

[Marantz4250b]

I agree! That is something that really stood out to me too.
I find it crazy that anyone could brush this (and all the other evidence) aside and think she's innocent.

I'm actually extremely surprised that it wasn't reported on during the trial. In my minds eye I'd always expected that they were simply randomly stuffed into places, such as the bag under the bed, but there were all ordered and were shown in a neat stack.

I think that that one point, if reported at the time, would have put a lot of her critics off from the outset.

 

[JosieJo]

Didn't realise the handovers were stored chronologically either

Didn't know about the asterisks on significant dates

I was struck by how she occasionally swung into "no comment" when the going got tough

 

[Parker Knoll]

It’s such a powerful detail so I’m staggered too it wasn’t picked up on - and in date order.
She also kept handover sheets in the box the SHREDDER came in !
If it wasn’t so tragic it would be amusing.
She’s not half as clever as she thinks she is.
How anyone is fooled by her is baffling to me.

Yes - “ no comment “ in interview and “ can’t remember “ on the stand.

 

[mummyshark]

I've just watched it. I also wasn't aware of the document found in the garage with "murder" and "murderer" written on it. Was that in the public domain prior to this documentary and have I just missed it? If so, do we know what else was written on that piece of paper?

I actually thought the documentary was quite good and included balanced views.

I also want Dr Dewi Evans to record a bedtime story for me - his voice is so soothing!