GUILTY UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

[Sweeper2000]

I don’t want to see the photograph, I’m not saying they should release a photo to the public, I’m not sure why you’ve interpreted my comment that way. I’m saying this would be photographic evidence of a tube removal by Letby.

By the word materiel i thought you meant should have been presented as standard. Also why without seeing it would you think it doesnt exist?

 

[WaneLyrical]

By the word materiel i thought you meant should have been presented as standard. Also why without seeing it would you think it doesnt exist?

I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, it clearly exists, it was put into a Mother’s Day card.

I’m saying that, if what is being suggested here is true, that Letby deliberately deprived a baby of oxygen for a non-clinical reason, then this is material evidence of wrongdoing. But yet, it’s nowhere to be seen in the case against her, and despite the police having now investigated it, it’s not enough to persuade the CPS.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Meanwhile, over at the awful LucyLetbyTrials Reddit... We have had "escape goats", but now we also have "espace goats"!!!
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It's utter garbage, regurgitated time and time again by morons. The state of the unit has been done ad-infinitum and categorically NOT related in any way to these deaths and injuries! Even if the staff were plodging (there's a fine Geordie word, for ya!) about in raw sewage, that wouldn't cause traumatic internal damage to babies!

The people on these discussions, especially the FB ones, are looking to prove innocence, rather than applying the evidence that was presented in court. That is NOT how one goes about investigating - or re-investigating - crimes.

 

[Marantz4250b]

I would very much like to understand her motives for doing what she did, and I appreciate that this is less important than understanding the how, but it was fascinating to learn about the ways in which she would almost wallow or indulge herself in the aftermath of the babies' deaths. Ruminating and fixating on the tragedy of it all. Maybe that's all the motive necessary for some types of personality - and specifically some types of disordered personality.

I hadn't seen any of the interviews with her or really had a chance to see her demeanour in action until I watched the Netflix doc and saw the difference between the articulate professional actively demonstrating her competence and skills, and the quieter "I don't remember" persona. Contrast that articulate professional with the girlish / tween age vibe she seemed to prefer at home and it's really quite jarring.

Maybe once the drama has died down, she'll look for new ways to get attention and maybe that'll come in the form of a tell all interview where she explains what she did and why. I doubt it, but you can only hope.

We will 100% never know this.

It's been my assertion for a long time that even Lucy Letby doesn't know why she did what she did.

I don't think prisoners have ever been allowed to give interviews about their from UK prisons. Although I stand to be corrected there. Given that she's never getting out, I very much doubt we'll see or hear anything from her. Anyway, like I say, even if she does, I don't think she even knows why she did it or will eve know.

 

[Marantz4250b]

She didn't remove the breathing equipment for cleaning, she removed it for a photoshoot, which is illegal. Period. It's also deeply, deeply creepy.

Your last sentence is simply a flat out lie with no sources. Multiple people who knew her described her as aggressive, hostile, or odd.

She absolutely perfectly fits the profile of a female serial killer - someone who cannot connect with others, with no dating history, who has a history of inappropriate behaviour, and commits murders via a caring role.

The three separate people who walked in on her standing over a baby in distress (two of whom experienced her anger). There's no justification for that.

To be fair, it would seem that there were far more people who thought she was utterly lovely than those who thought she was really odd and weird.

Personally, I don't think she fits the profile of a female serial killer; sure, she seemed to have no dating history, but she was clearly extremely social and seemed to have a wide circle of friends. She certainly wasn't the typical wall-flower type by any description.

A point I made at the very start of this (well, 2020, when she was actually charged) was that all of her photos that we had at the time were taken by other people who were clearly friends in social situations such as pubs and suchlike. And these were very likely photos which were snatched from her friends social media profiles such as Facebook. People don't generally post pictures of people they dislike.

Having said all that, female serial killers are extremely rare and there doesn't seem to be much similarity between them, tbh.

This is why I find her so fascinating; she had literally everything anyone her age could ever want. Every door was open to her, she was educated, articulate, had a good and financially stable family background, good work ethic, was in a secure job, and was decidedly easy on the eye. Odds are that her plan was to marry a doctor (I think she even wrote that in her diary at some point) and I'm sure she could have done that without too much trouble.

 

[Sarahlou]

We will 100% never know this.

It's been my assertion for a long time that even Lucy Letby doesn't know why she did what she did.

I don't think prisoners have every been allowed to give interviews about their from UK prisons. Although I stand to be corrected there. Given that she's never getting out, I very much doubt we'll see or hear anything from her. Anyway, like I say, even if she does, I don't think she even knows why she did it or will eve know.

Exactly what I think. I think she just felt a strong desire to do what she did, but she wouldn't be able to explain why.
Not that I think she'd ever admit to what she's done anyway.