GUILTY UK - Phoenix Netts, 28, found in suitcase, Gloucestershire, 12 May 2020

[Mellowmelly]

That would certainly work.

It's such a bizarre case. Possibly the weirdest one I've read about.

I was about to say how bizarre this case is, you took the words right out of my mouth. Its definitely weird for a number of reasons, the first for me is a woman killing another woman, and how young they both are. And if its correct that it was over drugs, it seems like a lot more gruesome than your usual drugs killings, like shootings, stabbing ect. I know there was a similar killing in Ireland recently but I think it's still quite rare in drugs wars.

 

[dotr]

Media has shown photos of the victim and the taxi driver, yet none of the accused.
Is that typical, why would her pic be withheld?

 

[Vern]

Media has shown photos of the victim and the taxi driver, yet none of the accused.
Is that typical, why would her pic be withheld?

I believe that the pics thus far have been obtained from social media accounts of the victim and one of the accused; I can't find a social media account for the other accused, so IMO, the media haven't found one either.

They don't publish mug shots there as far as I aware.

 

[nao]

I have my own carpentry tools. A table saws actual table is only 2-3 ft long. A reguar circler/skill saw would just jam up I think..also you can only drop the blade so far...not enough to go completely thru a human body. If body was frozen it would be doable. I know hunters that use a chainsaw but that is for disconnecting limbs.. But the internal organs are just not saw friendly. I think maybe body was in many pieces. I am female.

 

[Chelly]

Which makes me wonder, if the man bailed didnt help with the murder and dismemberment, who did ? I dont believe she did this alone, at least not using the saw and getting the body out of that room to wherever she was desecrated.

Good question.

 

[Chelly]

What I meant was I don't think he was just a taxi driver who had no idea what his passenger was carrying. I don't think he was involved in the murder. Why he would be helping her though is a puzzle.

Don't know how he was involved, but doubt he is innocent.

 

[Chelly]

Media has shown photos of the victim and the taxi driver, yet none of the accused.
Is that typical, why would her pic be withheld?

If media could dig up photos of the accused, media would publish them. Most likely, there are none on social media and family won't provide them.

 

[robespierre]

Media has shown photos of the victim and the taxi driver, yet none of the accused.
Is that typical, why would her pic be withheld?

None of her friends have sold to the tabs yet most likely.

 

[Al Ka]

I was about to say how bizarre this case is, you took the words right out of my mouth. Its definitely weird for a number of reasons, the first for me is a woman killing another woman, and how young they both are. And if its correct that it was over drugs, it seems like a lot more gruesome than your usual drugs killings, like shootings, stabbing ect. I know there was a similar killing in Ireland recently but I think it's still quite rare in drugs wars.

Now that you mention it, I don't think cause of death was revealed yet by police, only that after her murder (by whatever means) she was burned and dismembered.

It seems there are some conflicting reports in different news, some stating dismemberment happened inside their refuge and other news disputing that.

While I so far lean on that it happened there I am more wondering where was burning done. Do they have back garden? Or was it done somewhere else? Or did she try to burn them in the forest, hence reason for multiple trips?

 

[miss-scarlett23]

Now that you mention it, I don't think cause of death was revealed yet by police, only that after her murder (by whatever means) she was burned and dismembered.

It seems there are some conflicting reports in different news, some stating dismemberment happened inside their refuge and other news disputing that.

While I so far lean on that it happened there I am more wondering where was burning done. Do they have back garden? Or was it done somewhere else? Or did she try to burn them in the forest, hence reason for multiple trips?

"Gloucestershire police said the cause of death had not been determined by a post mortem and further examinations were ongoing."

Tragic past of 'torso in the woods' victim who dropped out of university before being killed | Daily Mail Online

 

[Alyce]

Now that you mention it, I don't think cause of death was revealed yet by police, only that after her murder (by whatever means) she was burned and dismembered.
It seems there are some conflicting reports in different news, some stating dismemberment happened inside their refuge and other news disputing that.While I so far lean on that it happened there I am more wondering where was burning done. Do they have back garden? Or was it done somewhere else? Or did she try to burn them in the forest, hence reason for multiple trips?

Aerial view - there is garden but it seems very overlooked by other properties. Plus with it being a shared house, I think it would be difficult to do something on site.



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[miss-scarlett23]

Aerial view - there is garden but it seems very overlooked by other properties. Plus with it being a shared house, I think it would be difficult to do something on site.



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Has anyone else noticed that Google maps shows a builders ltd company at the address?

 

[chimpface]

Has anyone else noticed that Google maps shows a builders ltd company at the address?

There is a "KHAN BUILDERS & CONTRACTORS LTD" on companies house, however its registered address is another address in Birmingham.

KHAN BUILDERS & CONTRACTORS LTD - Overview (free company information from Companies House)

Maybe the business on google against that address was registered there previously before it was sold to the women's refuge. I can tell you there are three occupants on the electoral roll since Feb 2017, all women. I've found one on facebook who is an elderly woman, "self employed". It could be owned by the council and rented on a by room basis.

I do think it's a red herring.

 

[Chelly]

Sure would like to read some details soon from LE on sequence of events, locations, accomplices.

 

[Mind your biscuits]

The accused doesn't seem to like having her photograph taken. Any one found a picture yet? Moo.

 

[RobinCAL]

Suspect pictured for first time since arrest after woman 'chopped in half'

 

[carbuff]

Suspect pictured for first time since arrest after woman 'chopped in half'

Includes lots of pictures of Phoenix and some pictures of the house and the area where the body was found

 

[Auntie Cipation]

On this subject of murder and dismemberment, who was it that recommended upthread the book "Murder of the Century" by Paul Collins? I want to thank you.

I am reading the book on Kindle and it is excellent. Impressive research and superb writing.

That was me! And I agree and really enjoyed it as well. Glad you are enjoying it.

I have been reading a bunch of non-fiction books set in that Gilded Age time frame and just thought of another one to recommend: Erik Larson's "The Devil in the White City". Also extremely well-written and interesting! And true!

 

[Mind your biscuits]

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Includes lots of pictures of Phoenix and some pictures of the house and the area where the body was found

No pictures of the elusive Gareeca though? Hmmmm.

 

[Tortoise]

Sure would like to read some details soon from LE on sequence of events, locations, accomplices.

I don't expect we will hear anything more until the trial. Could be a while.