GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #9

[Clio]

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 34s35 seconds ago
Says SH gave him an ultimatum to clear stuff out

What ultimatum? What could she possibly threaten him with if he didn't clear stuff out?

 

[Ironside]

Just curious - what led you to the assumption that the clutter in Crown Hill was due to NM?

It looks like the exact same sort of clutter in NM's house which was full to the brim. NM hung around Crown Hill a lot so I think it is very likely to be his hoard. DG worked and AG has health issues so they're not very likely to be the ones who gathered all that junk together.

 

[ColourPurple]

With the box room and conservatory piled to the ceiling, the garden looking like a junk yard, the roof terrace death trap and the living room/kitchen needed a big tidy up, I wouldn't have had friends round at that age ........... but maybe I'm a snob!

As a kid I had friends whose living arrangments varied from a spotless caravan to a fairly cluttered big old house with a swimming pool, and everything in between, but I don't remember the tidiness of the houses every being a subject of discussion or anybody worrying about what their parent's house looked like or avoiding letting us in or anything.

 

[Tortoise]

I'll be interested to hear how he explains a massive struggle with Becky if he couldn't even sneeze without collapsing in pain.

 

[YidArmyRach]

What ultimatum? What could she possibly threaten him with if he didn't clear stuff out?

It was her house apparently - if there was only her name on the lease, and her benefits paying the rent, then she could threaten to kick him out.

 

[YidArmyRach]

I'll be interested to hear how he explains a massive struggle with Becky if he couldn't even sneeze without collapsing in pain.

But could use an exercise bike!!!

 

[ColourPurple]

But could use an exercise bike!!!

Not sure of the details of his fybromyalgia but the exercise bike might be something that was recommended to him. I've had problems with my knee and when I asked the DR about what exercise was ok I was told to do non weight bearing exercises like swimming or using an exercise bike... rather than use the treadmill I'd bought lol..

 

[jessie]

Was it always NM's intention to go in the witness box do you think, or something that was decided later in the trial?

 

[ColourPurple]

I'll be interested to hear how he explains a massive struggle with Becky if he couldn't even sneeze without collapsing in pain.

If his description of his symptoms are accurate, plus the fact he said he sweats a lot anyway I'd imagine he'd be exhausted, red faced and dripping in sweat.

 

[Clio]

It was her house apparently - if there was only her name on the lease, and her benefits paying the rent, then she could threaten to kick him out.

If it's true that all the supplies they bought were to do with having a clear out then he must have believed that she could/would actually kick him out surely. Doesn't tie in with her stated inability to realise her dream of being free of him imho. Sounds like part of a joint story to explain the dubious purchases during which they forgot to buy the packing boxes.

 

[Coldpizza]

Not to mention SH being 18 weeks pregnant -

Is there an MSM link stating SH is pregnant?

Tia

 

[mrazda71]

Is there an MSM link stating SH is pregnant?

Tia

Shauna says it during her interview after being told what Nathan's done.

"We have our own little girl and I'm carrying his unborn children"

 

[Ironside]

Is there an MSM link stating SH is pregnant?

Tia

In the third SH police interview released (after BW was found) SH does state she is carrying NM's unborn children.

 

[ColourPurple]

If it's true that all the supplies they bought were to do with having a clear out then he must have believed that she could/would actually kick him out surely. Doesn't tie in with her stated inability to realise her dream of being free of him imho. Sounds like part of a joint story to explain the dubious purchases during which they forgot to buy the packing boxes.

Is the ultimatum he mentioned supposed to have happened when he bought all the cleaning stuff or at a much earlier time? In his interview when they asked him how he explained the cleaning purchases to SH, he said he didnt remember but he'd have made up a lie about it. If he'd bought them in response to her giving an ultimatum he wouldn't need to lie about why he'd purchased them.

He has also said he did not tell his girlfriend the ‘real reason’ why he bought the items he used to clean up, adding: ‘I cannot remember if she asked why I was buying them but if she did I would have lied.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-psycho-boyfriend-dump-her.html#ixzz3pm6k9Fs3

 

[Tortoise]

It would take them weeks to sort that place out and they would need a few skips not a few rolls of bin bags. You can't clean until the stuff's been moved out, and drain cleaner? bleach? clingfilm?

I'm amazed we're even discussing it as a viable explanation

 

[ColourPurple]

Is there an MSM link stating SH is pregnant?

Tia

There are quite a few but we also know she is no longer pregnant now. She is past what would have been her due date if she was 19 weeks in Feb/March but no details of if she gave birth or the pregnancy was terminated.

[h=2]Pregnant Shauna Hoare, 21, played the board game - featuring characters from the hit TV series - with her co-accused Nathan Matthews, 28[/h]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-stepbrother-6621107

 

[mrazda71]

Is the ultimatum he mentioned supposed to have happened when he bought all the cleaning stuff or at a much earlier time? In his interview when they asked him how he explained the cleaning purchases to SH, he said he didnt remember but he'd have made up a lie about it. If he'd bought them in response to her giving an ultimatum he wouldn't need to lie about why he'd purchased them.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-psycho-boyfriend-dump-her.html#ixzz3pm6k9Fs3

Not directed at you ColourPurple but I HATE HATE HATE the Daily mail and most newspapers in genera, vile sensationalist headlines!

Psycho boyfriend - the 2 lovers -

A man this week was jailed for having sex with a 13 year old and 'journalists' saw fit to say "he bedded the teenager repeatedly over a 2 year period" - bedded? Try abused! :/

 

[iclaudia]

I'll be interested to hear how he explains a massive struggle with Becky if he couldn't even sneeze without collapsing in pain.

As I understand it, fibromyalgia is not a condition which gives constant pain but one in which the sufferer experiences regular "flare ups".

 

[ColourPurple]

It would take them weeks to sort that place out and they would need a few skips not a few rolls of bin bags. You can't clean until the stuff's been moved out, and drain cleaner? bleach? clingfilm?

I'm amazed we're even discussing it as a viable explanation

The repeated purchase of clingfilm is going to be hard to explain , but will SH take the stand or will they have to make do with cross examinnig NM?

 

[Alyce]

Is there an MSM link stating SH is pregnant?

Tia

The court was told that the couple had a child, and that in February Hoare was pregnant.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...killed-in-sexually-motivated-attack-jury-told





Nathan Matthews, 28, and pregnant girlfriend Shauna Hoare, 21, buying items including rubbish bags, duct tape and cling film


http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-moment-6712886