GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #9

[Cherwell]

NM taking the stand, defence getting papers ready so that means his defence will be asking questions then? Not the prosecution. Or am I way off?

That's how it works. Defence lets him tell his version, then prosecution will cross-examine him.

 

[ColourPurple]

The prosecutions case seems quite weak to me, I had hoped there would be more, not sure what I was expecting but I seem to have so many unanswered questions.

I think with both the killing and dismemberment taking place in places where the accused and the accused's DNA would be anyway, there's a lot less forensics to rely on than there would be in a situation where a stranger was killed.

 

[ColourPurple]

I have to go for a bit. Does anyone else want to pick up posting tweets? If so, please can we do the short version as the full tweet screens take ages to load, for me anyway

I'll do Siobhan's tweets and if ITV are any different, theirs too.

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 8m8 minutes ago
The prosecution's case has closed. NM defence will begin after a short five minute break #beckywatts


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 15m15 minutes ago
Work diary confirms this holiday. #beckywatts


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 15m15 minutes ago
DD had pre-booked work holiday on 2/3/15 - this is the reason he did not turn up to work, court hears #beckywatts

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 16s17 seconds ago
Nathan Matthews is in the witness box in court. He is about to give his evidence. #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial now10 seconds ago
A shaky Matthews, is now affirming the oath. #beckywatts

 

[Cherwell]

The prosecutions case seems quite weak to me, I had hoped there would be more, not sure what I was expecting but I seem to have so many unanswered questions.

They may get more through cross-examinations, then of course there's an opportunity to sell their case in the closing speech.

They seem to have absolutely nothing on DD.

I'll have to catch up later, got to go out.

 

[ColourPurple]

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 41 secs42 seconds ago
Nathan Matthews is now about to give evidence.He is wearing a grey sweater and looking down as he confirms his name and age

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 26s27 seconds ago
He's dressed in jeans and a beige top, and it clutching a piece of paper #beckywatts

 

[edgedweller]

Oh how am I going to get anything done today?!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 46s
His barrister, Adam Viatalingham, are running through the charges against him. He admits having a plan to kidnap

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 20 secs20 seconds agoLooking at what he admits and denies first with his lawyer Adam Vaitilingham QC

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 26s27 seconds ago
'You've pleaded not guilty to murder, but guilty to manslaughter - is that right?' NM replies, after a pause. Yes. #beckywatts

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 43 secs43 seconds ago
Did you have a plan to kidnap BW in Feb this year? YES
Was Shauna any part of that plan?NO

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 30s30 seconds ago
NM has broken down in the witness box. He has his head on the desk as he sobs that he did not intend to kill, or seriously hurt #beckywatts

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 19s19 seconds ago
So do you admit you planned to kidnap Becky but deny you conspired with Shauna to do so?Yes

 

[ColourPurple]

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 37s37 seconds ago
Did you intend to cause her really serious injury?No..no I didn't

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 19s19 seconds ago
NM admits, on the stand, hiding, dismembering, then hiding again the body of #beckywatts

 

[ColourPurple]

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 15s15 seconds ago
Do you admit you lied to police?yes


Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 30s30 seconds ago
On perverting the course of justice he says "not Shauna,me"
Do you admit that you hid and then dismembered and hid again Becky's body? Yes

 

[YidArmyRach]

I think with both the killing and dismemberment taking place in places where the accused and the accused's DNA would be anyway, there's a lot less forensics to rely on than there would be in a situation where a stranger was killed.

And with none of Becky's DNA being found at all in the bathroom, I don't understand why anyone can be absolutely certain that is where it did take place. Surely there is only NM's word for that?

I know the bathroom mats and shower curtain were found with Becky's body, but it is possible that they could have been taken out of the bathroom to be used elsewhere. Unlikely yes, but I understand what you are saying with regards to their DNA being logically found in any room in their house, so wouldn't be proof in itself of someone being involved. So surely that is the place to say it took place, if you wanted to avoid anyone finding evidence that would link a person(s) without having an excuse as to why their DNA might be there.

 

[Tortoise]

[h=3]'17-minute film of teen being raped found on laptop'[/h]The jury heard a 17-minute film of a teenager being raped was found on a laptop under the window in the bedroom at Matthews and Hoare’s home.
The film was called “Virgin teen gets raped in her own house”.
The trial heard the film’s content included a man putting his hand over the rape victim’s mouth for one minute.
The jury heard the attacker in the film also tied the teenager’s hands and slapped her face.
Prosecutors online ‘bookmarks’ had been made on the laptop for 38 websites relating to or escorts.
Some of the images on the site contained teenage , the court heard.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 30s30 seconds ago
NM is now recounting how he grew up and how he was bought up by his grandmother #beckywatts

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 22s22 seconds ago
Do you admit that you had 2 stun guns in your possession?Yes


Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 38s38 seconds ago
Do you admit you prevented the lawful burial of Becky? By my actions,yes

 

[Tortoise]

[h=3]Matthews and Hoare had no criminal record when arrested[/h]The jury heard Matthews had a minor cut on his left wrist when he was arrested.
Matthews and Hoare had no criminal record and had never previously been arrested before they were taken into custody in connection with Becky’s death.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

 

[Wallace]

Must say I'm surprised he's decided to do it (assuming of course that the BP is right) - big risk of making things worse for himself...

I guess that one of them needs to convince the jury that SH didn't participate. NM is toast any way so perhaps he decided to have one last attempt to protect her.

I will be a lot more surprised if SH decides to take the stand.

 

[Alyce]

He turns and smiles at his mother Anjie Galsworthy who is in the public gallery - She smiles back



https://www.facebook.com/UK.database

 

[ColourPurple]

And with none of Becky's DNA being found at all in the bathroom, I don't understand why anyone can be absolutely certain that is where it did take place. Surely there is only NM's word for that?

I know the bathroom mats and shower curtain were found with Becky's body, but it is possible that they could have been taken out of the bathroom to be used elsewhere. Unlikely yes, but I understand what you are saying with regards to their DNA being logically found in any room in their house, so wouldn't be proof in itself of someone being involved. So surely that is the place to say it took place, if you wanted to avoid anyone finding evidence that would link a person(s) without having an excuse as to why their DNA might be there.

I've said before that the cleanest other space in the house is the landing, outside the bathrom. He could have laid the car boot liner on the landing and when finished shoveed it into the back of the cooker which was facing the landing

 

[ColourPurple]

Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 43s43 seconds ago
Passed first yr but didn't complete 2nd. Went to cadets from 12-13yrs later joined TA.


Siobhan Robbins ‏@SiobhanRobbins 1m1 minute ago
NM talking about his past, said brought up by his gran but saw his mum.Left school around 16/17 & went to college to study as electrician