UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #3

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  • #621
G. Dragon added info to 1st Nov report:

"A cricket bat
also seized from the home was found to have Sara’s DNA profile on it,
along with the DNA sample of
Urfan Sharif and Faisal Malik.

Both items had no DNA trace of Beinash Batool on them.

(a belt, a cricket bat)

The court heard how Sara’s DNA was a match for blood found inside a carrier bag at the home address,
as well as on the handles of the bag and on a piece of brown tape.

Hairs found in this
exhibit were also a match for Sara.

It was also highlighted to the jury
that Beinash Batool was the only defendant who had refused to
provide dental impressions of her teeth to be compared with bite marks found on Sara.

At one point,
a member of the jury asked if an electric iron found at Sara’s family home had been tested for fingerprints or DNA.

It was explained that although it was swabbed for DNA,
the results were inconclusive.

The iron was not tested for fingerprints because, as an ordinary household item likely handled by multiple people, it would not have had evidential value."

To learn that fasials dna was on the cricket bat is a double edged sword ,on one hand I'm delighted as it could help in him receiving a life sentence. On the other hand I'm heartbroken that Sara was being battered by two men and two fairly well built men at that . How she survived for so long is beyond me . .
 
  • #622
To learn that fasials dna was on the cricket bat is a double edged sword ,on one hand I'm delighted as it could help in giving a life sentence. On the other hand I'm heartbroken that Sara was being battered by two men .

Hmmm...
It could also be he just touched/held it as guys seem to be crazy about cricket :rolleyes:

Besides,
B. didn't mention him in her messages.

Trial will tell.
And his KC Defence Barrister.

JMO
 
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A poster asked what would the theories be on the end game for parents or step parents who inflict physical violence and torture onto their children. I don't think there's an end game as such . I don't think it's a means to an end . I think it's about control but in reality the perpetrator has lost control of themselves. They also imo have a personality disorder . I feel the perpetrator thinks they have a measured control over the situation so they bring it to the brink almost like an adrenaline junkie and when they go too far which results in death they are shocked and that's when the panic and chaos ensues . Imo
 
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Hmmm...
It could also be he just touched/held it as guys seem to be crazy about cricket :rolleyes:

Trial will tell.
And his KC Defence Barrister.

JMO
Prehaps so but so could urfan have just touched it . How would the difference be told as to whether it was touched as in crazy about cricket and touched as in using it to batter someone???
I will take it from a prosecutors perspective In the hope the jury will also see it as this too
 
  • #625
Prehaps so but so could urfan have just touched it . How would the difference be told as to whether it was touched as in crazy about cricket and touched as in using it to batter someone???
I will take it from a prosecutors perspective In the hope the jury will also see it as this too

U. confessed to beatings.
This is a difference.

JMO
 
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  • #626
U. confessed.
This is a difference.
I just hope all 3 defendants get life with out parole as I know you do too Dotta . All we can do is hold on to the hope that any little indication that all 3 had involvement will be picked up by a jury

Without guilty pleas and confessions we will probably never know the dynamics of the case . Who of the 3 did what ,when and to what extreme. Who played a minor part and who was the instigator. Unfortunately this is the final act of selfishness of the defendants against Sara .
 
  • #627
IMO

They (the defendants)
represent what is called "the banality of evil".

Outwardly
ordinary, bland, seemingly normal family leading normal, banal life.

But, in fact,
shallow, primitive,
and clueless about parental methods other than brute violence and beating.
Squashing free spirit of a child, breaking child's backbone
(both metaphorically and literally in this case).

Seemingly feeling no remorse.
The "deed just happened",
it was "an accident/incident".

There was no love for Sara in this household - except maybe from siblings.
She was an outcast, a "father's" pawn to humiliate an ex wife.

JMO
Agree 100%
It couldn't be said any better.
IMOO
 
  • #628
Prehaps so but so could urfan have just touched it . How would the difference be told as to whether it was touched as in crazy about cricket and touched as in using it to batter someone???
I will take it from a prosecutors perspective In the hope the jury will also see it as this too
I guess that DNA from a cricket bat won't be accepted as a strong evidence to support the claim.
JMHO That's too bad though.
 
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To learn that fasials dna was on the cricket bat is a double edged sword ,on one hand I'm delighted as it could help in him receiving a life sentence. On the other hand I'm heartbroken that Sara was being battered by two men and two fairly well built men at that . How she survived for so long is beyond me . .
To think of that beautiful angel hanging on to life so long is beyond comprehension. A quick Google of "hyoid fracture" alone shows she would battle to breathe, swallow and move.
 
  • #630
More from G. Dragon

"Prosecutor William Emlyn Jones KC
read out two sets of transcripts of text messages between
Beinash Batool and her sisters,
Amima S. and Qandeela S.

He confirmed that these were an extract and that there were
thousands of messages in total.

The conversation between Batool and Amima
ran from August 8, 2020 to August 11, 2023
and the conversation between Batool and Qandeela
ran from July 25, 2019 to August 13, 2023.

Both conversations
detail marital difficulties between Batool and Urfan Sharif,
as well as allegations that Sharif physically abused Sara.


The jury was also shown messages sent to Qandeela by Batool,
including images of Sara with bruising to her face.
......

Evidence was also read out from Paul K., who lived two doors away in Hammond Road and often worked from home.

He described the children as sometimes noisy in the garden but said that their mother came out to deal with them and never seemed cross.

He described seeing
the light on in their house at 4 am the week Sara’s body was found
and noted that as odd.


He never saw anything that 'was out of the ordinary or caused concern'."

 
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"Dr Kouble was provided dental impressions of Urfan Sharif, Faisal Malik and Sara’s older brother and excluded all three as being responsible.

He also said it was not possible the bites had been self- inflicted.

Dr Kouble said it was difficult to age the bites
but said the ones on the arm were older
than the one on Sara’s inner leg
.
......
Another Expert

He concluded that it was 'highly likely that the deceased experienced daily pain and suffering prior
to the death',
including 'physical discomfort and psychological suffering',
and that Sara would have
'hobbled and grimaced or winced'
if the injuries were touched.

Mr Martin also said Sara’s suffering would have been
obvious to those interacting with her regularly."

 
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Re burns

"These included one burn on each buttock that Mr Martin concluded were likely to have been caused in the same incident.
It described it as a single contact burn and that it was at least two weeks old.

His view was that it had been intentionally inflicted and made by a domestic iron possibly and the iron found in the Sharif house.

Mr Martin also identified several burns on Sara’s feet,
likely to have been caused by a scold injury.

He also mentioned evidence of Sara being bound at the feet,
which he said was also likely to have been deliberate.

Mr Martin said
none of the burns had received proper medical attention."

Damning for ALL adults living there.


Arrest!
Passengers are gawping!



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Re the trial

So far Prosecution has taken the stage:
- Medical Experts
- Neighbours' testimony
- School/Social S.
- phone experts
- phone messages

If the trial is to end mid December
I guess November will be dedicated to Defence of each of the trio, no?

Guessing that all of them will probably blame one another,
they might play into Prosecution's goal :rolleyes:

Well,
Granted,
I'm not an expert of English Law,
but that is what I imagine will happen.

Then, at the beginning of December -
closing speeches, Judge's instructions and...

Voilà!
Jury's deliberations.

JMO
Actually, this is my hope. In their efforts to throw the other two under the bus, the three defense barristers might end up collectively damning everyone.
 
  • #634
Actually, this is my hope. In their efforts to throw the other two under the bus, the three defense barristers might end up collectively damning everyone.

"Take no prisoners!"
 
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From last year

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"On Thursday,
flowers were left outside the house,
including a bouquet with a card written in Polish that appeared to be from Sara's mother.

The message translated as:

'Sleep sweetly my darling daughter.
You are an angel in heaven now
and watching over us from above.
Love you,
Mama'."


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"Video captures Sara Sharif dancing at home days before her death, court told.

Jurors have been shown footage of Sara Sharif dancing at home in a video which was allegedly taken by her stepmother two days before the 10-year-old died.

A video said to have been taken by Batool was played in court on Monday showing Sara dancing at home, which 'on the available evidence' appears to have been taken on August 6 last year, the court heard.

This date is being checked by the prosecution.

Forensic pathologist Dr Nathaniel Cary agreed while he was being
cross-examined by
Caroline Carberry KC, for Batool,

that Sara appears
'co-ordinated, alert and smiling at the camera'.

He also agreed her behaviour in the video is
'inconsistent with her having sustained a brain injury with associated neurological symptoms at that time'."


"Batool cried in the dock when the video was played."

As I predicted Defence KC at full swing



 
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"Video captures Sara Sharif dancing at home days before her death, court told.

Jurors have been shown footage of Sara Sharif dancing at home in a video which was allegedly taken by her stepmother two days before the 10-year-old died.

A video said to have been taken by Batool was played in court on Monday showing Sara dancing at home, which 'on the available evidence' appears to have been taken on August 6 last year, the court heard.

This date is being checked by the prosecution.

Forensic pathologist Dr Nathaniel Cary agreed while he was being
cross-examined by
Caroline Carberry KC, for Batool,

that Sara appears
'co-ordinated, alert and smiling at the camera'.

He also agreed her behaviour in the video is
'inconsistent with her having sustained a brain injury with associated neurological symptoms at that time'."

As I predicted Defence KC at full swing

Was Sara even conscious then?

Could a child with so many broken bones, severe untreated burns to the buttocks, even stand unassisted?

This stinks.

MOO
 
  • #638
Was Sara even conscious then?

Could a child with so many broken bones, severe untreated burns to the buttocks, even stand unassisted?

This stinks.

MOO

Experts must determine when the video was recorded.

But hasn't it been checked already???

I doubt Defence KC
would be so careless as to present it as taken 4 days before death if not true.

Jeez!!! :oops:

Isn't it easy to check?
Easy peasy for IT professionals, no?

I'm speechless!

JMO
 
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Experts must determine when the video was recorded.

But hasn't it been checked already???

I doubt Defence KC
would be so careless as to present it as taken 4 days before death if not true.

Jeez!!! :oops:

Isn't it easy to check?
Easy peasy for IT professionals, no?

I'm speechless!

JMO
The positive is, this girl's body was a roadmap of torture, of fresh injuries and those in various states of healing. I doubt anyone actually believes she was capable of dancing at a time when she most likely already dying from the final act of severe abuse.

MOO
 
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Experts must determine when the video was recorded.

But hasn't it been checked already???

I doubt Defence KC
would be so careless as to present it as taken 4 days before death if not true.

Jeez!!! :oops:

Isn't it easy to check?
Easy peasy for IT professionals, no?

I'm speechless!

JMO
Late disclosure on the part of the defence, perhaps?
 
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