UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #3

[Dotta]

RSBM
Despite the awful written content, I like this article for the photos it shows of Sara! They're mostly ones not linked elsewhere and imo they show a mostly happy playful little girl. I suppose taken before the physical abuse escalated so badly that her father and stepmother felt they had to hide her in a hijab so nobody would notice.

I don't like the photo of her in the black hijab and the one of her where her face is shining with make-up, especially so much of her face, like for a mid-teen to adult, to be almost the only ones we see everytime there's a new article about her. Especially the hijab - that's what her abusers insisted on - and in so doing they were not allowing her her Polish heritage too or just plain allowing her what most other 10 year old girls wear in England.

MOO

The photos are from the times when Sara was living with bio Mother and U. during their marriage.
I read they were uncle's property from the time he visited the family living in the UK.
Sara was a precious, lively and enthusiastic little girl before these monsters robbed her of everything.
And crushed the life out of her


From the link:

"Sara pictured when she was younger in a photo provided by her uncle."



Rest in Peace Little Princess

Polish uncle of Sara Sharif urges police to 'catch her scumbag killer'

It has emerged that the family of murdered schoolgirl Sara Sharif in Woking were known to police. Reports say contact had gone back 'some time'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[su5ie]

The photos are from the times when Sara was living with bio Mother and U. during their marriage.
I read they were uncle's property from the time he visited the family living in the UK.
Sara was a precious, lively and enthusiastic little girl before these monsters robbed her of everything.
And crushed the life out of her


From the link:

"Sara pictured when she was younger in a photo provided by her uncle."

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Rest in Peace Little Princess

Polish uncle of Sara Sharif urges police to 'catch her scumbag killer'

It has emerged that the family of murdered schoolgirl Sara Sharif in Woking were known to police. Reports say contact had gone back 'some time'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Omg look at how beautiful Sara is . This is heartbreaking

 

[su5ie]

I don't think it's possible to get a visa just by declaring your intention to study. You'd have to provide evidence of being enrolled, I assume. He would have had to pay tuition fees, as a minimum, and tuition fees for overseas students are not cheap, certainly not worth paying just to work in McDonalds. Having said that, universities don't tend to be proactive about attendance and students skipping lectures etc. with the exception of Oxbridge (which has closer supervision and one-one with tutors). It's plausible that he was doing just enough to pass exams without physically attending.

A lot of migrants will pay over lots of money to illegal people smugglers. Unfortunately we see in the news the boat deaths in the channel etc which are consequences in real time . Student visas are are legal way of getting into Europe and the UK and families are willing to pay even if the family member has no intention of becoming a student and studying .
When I seen the name of urfans lawyer I was no more under the illusion that money is or was a problem for urfans family. And the money for flights to Pakistan was raised fairly swiftly too . Not many people can have that amount to hand or be raised that quick either

 

[Charlot123]

The staged and much-publicised photo of Sara in the green dress and makeup continues to trouble me.
It must be fairly recent at 10 years old?
And it seems now that many of her worst injuries must have been inflicted after she was removed from school/during the school holidays, she would have been incapacitated by them.

I wonder if the accused were thinking of her ££value as child-bride, and considering the potential profit from an arranged marriage? 10 years old would not be unheard of in that case. I think the photo would fit the bill in that case too. With their mother told not to contact them and that Sara and her brother did not want to speak to her, the way was clear to get Sara out of the country easily.

Given all the torture and abuse that she was subjected to, I have been surprised that sexual violence has not been included in any of the injuries, and now wonder if potential marriage could be the reason.

A previous poster asked what did Sara do/refuse to do that caused such anger and hatred and violence.
It might be that she was now threatening to tell? and refusing to co-operate? with whatever their arrangements were, and the result was a massive escalation of abuse and torture.
They did not want her, either alive or dead.

I agree. The photo is sexualized, not unlike Jon Benet Ramsey's ones. The first thing I thought of on seeing it was, "was there some kind of sex abuse?"

Could she have been "married" and "returned", though? Then they killed her out of anger and spite.

 

[Charlot123]

I have a strong gut feeling that Beinash is at the root of this. I believe she was extremely jealous of and had an extreme dislike of Sara. Sara was a beautiful child. Beinash looks cruel to me. I think she is a jealous, vicious, sadistic being and won't be surprised to hear that the worst treatment was metered out by her. Burning with an iron and the biting..her I believe. Doesn't mean the other 2 were not involved and are just as guilty, even if they only knew of the abuse but did nothing to stop it. If they blame each other then all 3 should be found guilty. All MOO.

All of the three are equally guilty. The father was choking his first Polish wife, mother of Sara. So, this is nothing new to him. I think all three are sadistic psychopaths, maybe it runs in the family and Sara's older brother needs to be found and returned to England ASAP.

 

[su5ie]

I just want to add something as I feel I'm trying to find reasons Why this happened .

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The truth of the matter is that these defendants are evil torturers who killed Sara in the most horrifying ways . I don't think belief or culture came in to it .it was a handy excuse to keep their victim hidden .

Unfortunately I do think that when they cowardly ran to Pakistan they thought they would escape justice and as we see with Beinash wearing the hajib in the video from Pakistan , punishment and expectation of women according to the faith might be more exceptable and extreme in some families

 

[nao]

I agree. The photo is sexualized, not unlike Jon Benet Ramsey's ones. The first thing I thought of on seeing it was, "was there some kind of sex abuse?"

Could she have been "married" and "returned", though? Then they killed her out of anger and spite.

Moo...I believe that pic is from when she was with bio mom, I am sure if you read back you will find pic discussed. Just playing dress up. Moo

 

[Charlot123]

I think this case will be one that will remain in people's minds forever . The details are horrendous . How sara survived for so long I don't know .
I'm flabbergasted at how all three are pleading not guilty and how the defence team allowed this .I expected a possible plea of insanity from 2 of the 3 and a possible not guilty from the uncle .
My thoughts on the hood used on Sara was so she couldn't identify who gave her the beating or what weapon was used in case SS arrived .
One of the neighbours while I'm sure in hindsight wishes she had rang anyone who would listen but how can you continuously hear loud smacking and high pitched screaming of a child over a period of months and not ring LE for a welfare check . As with too many other cases another child dead because people turned a blind eye .
I fail to see why some single out the step mother as the main culprit as there is no way in hell that so called father didn't see or participate to me it's akin to arguing whom is more culpable Fred or Rose, Hindley or Brady .Even in staying silent lies guilt

I agree. There is a term "identified patient". When the whole family unit is dysfunctional, someone (usually a more traumatized, weaker kid or a child with disabilities) starts acting out first and he/she becomes "the culprit". When the CPS gets involved and removes the child, another one starts acting out. So Sara was identified patient, but I don't know who'd be the next. I think both F and U grew up in a sadistic family, and I wonder where all the other kids are. Aren't they British citizens? And of course, SM is equally guilty.

 

[su5ie]

Does anyone know if Sara has been buried in Poland as olga wanted . Or does a funeral happen when the trial is over ?

 

[su5ie]

I agree. There is a term "identified patient". When the whole family unit is dysfunctional, someone (usually a more traumatized, weaker kid or a child with disabilities) starts acting out first and he/she becomes "the culprit". When the CPS gets involved and removes the child, another one starts acting out. So Sara was identified patient, but I don't know who'd be the next. I think both F and U grew up in a sadistic family, and I wonder where all the other kids are. Aren't they British citizens? And of course, SM is equally guilty.

There is no doubt in my mind that urfan and faziel grew up in an environment where women and girls were treated badly . If we are to believe in dysfunctionality being passed down through generations like addictions and behaviour patterns . I think the men in urfans family were put first . We see an example of this when only the males of the family spoke to the media . Why did we not hear from urfans sisters or mother we only heard from father and brothers even those arrested in Pakistan were male as usually females are not privy to information like that and it would be regarded as business discussions between men folk . Women are there to serve the man in some cultures this is not restricted to muslim societies it can also include minority groups in ireland like the travelling community although this is changing as its more acceptable for girls to continue schooling and go on to college and get a job and marry and have kids later if they want .

 

[Dotta]

Moo...I believe that pic is from when she was with bio mom, I am sure if you read back you will find pic discussed. Just playing dress up. Moo

Sara was 6 when she started living with U and B.
Does the girl in the pic look less than 6?

I don't think so.

 

[nao]

Sara was 6 when she started living with U and B.
Does the girl in the pic look less than 6?

I don't think so.

Moo . visitation? The pic has definitely been discussed previously

 

[Lucy6226]

Moo...I believe that pic is from when she was with bio mom, I am sure if you read back you will find pic discussed. Just playing dress up. Moo

I also remember this being discussed. It was linked in the earlier news stories, think mum shared the pic iirc

 

[Dotta]

I also remember this being discussed. It was linked in the earlier news stories, think mum shared the pic iirc

Mother got pictures of kids from U&B.
Then they stopped sending her photos later.
They alienated children from Mother.

Olga presented photos she was sent by U.

JMO

 

[Skigh]

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It is not true that the school did not report it ,social services were contacted .

 

[Charlot123]

Shows that a teacher at the school DID say something, didn't ignore/brush aside.
JMO

Aren't they mandated reporters and shouldn't they call protective services immediately?

 

[Charlot123]

It is not true that the school did not report it ,social services were contacted .

Look when Sara and old brother lived with their Polish mother, Sara (a child) showed her butt to someone, was spanked and immediately she and her brother were moved to dad's custody. Here, she comes to school with bruises, SM talks to teachers, the teacher talks to supervisor, the SS is contacted and then...what? In the meantime, Sara is pulled out of school in April and dies in August. So whose fault it is? The SS? What happened between April and August and why didn't they act immediately?

 

[Skigh]

Look when Sara and old brother lived with their Polish mother, Sara (a child) showed her butt to someone, was spanked and immediately she and her brother were moved to dad's custody. Here, she comes to school with bruises, SM talks to teachers, the teacher talks to supervisor, the SS is contacted and then...what? In the meantime, Sara is pulled out of school in April and dies in August. So whose fault it is? The SS? What happened between April and August and why didn't they act immediately?

We have not heard any official details why Olga lost custody of the children but I would be extremely surprised to hear it was instantly after the incident of her being smacked for showing her bottom.
We have not yet heard about what actions were taken after Sara was removed from the school and the family subsequently moved house.
The fault lies with the perpetrators.

 

[Charlot123]

And yet custody of Sara and her brother was awarded to urfan I don't get that . Unless through extreme fear olga surrendered custody on the promise she would always have access .

They overreacted to Olga once spanking her and didn't seem to react at all when the dad's family was broking her bones, beating her with bats, choking her, burning her, poring hot water on her and ultimately, causing irreversible brain damage.

It resembles me of Thomas Valva's case. Thomas biomother lost her two boys to her crazy husband and his new wife; one kid died in a cold garage. Biomom ended up suing the state. Olga is suicidal and left for Poland after Sara's death. But maybe doing the same and also, pushing the British Government to return her older son to GB (Pakistan seems to be collaborating on this case) will help Olga heal?

 

[Charlot123]

We have not heard any official details why Olga lost custody of the children but I would be extremely surprised to hear it was instantly after the incident of her being smacked for showing her bottom.
We have not yet heard about what actions were taken after Sara was removed from the school and the family subsequently moved house.
The fault lies with the perpetrators.

It is in a Polish newspaper; Dotta has linked it, very easy to use GT on it.