GUILTY UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #4

[CaptainNancy]

How come the defendants can leave the courtroom urfan left the other day and bienash this morning??

I don't know. They sit in the dock next to an officer (sometimes the Serco staff, sometimes someone who looks like a prison or court staff- they wear uniforms) and there is one door out to what I presume are the holding cells / rooms, and a gate out into the court room. They are not handcuffed so I assume they just get up and walk out, followed by the officer. To avoid an unseemly scuffle in the court room. They wouldn't be able to get far.

When a jury comes back in to deliver a verdict there is an extra officer in the dock with the defendant.

 

[su5ie]

I wonder if he will claim he was protecting B from a murder charge, by ‘falsely confessing’?

Is it not his defence that bienash is the perpetrator so if he proclaims its to protect bienash what will is not guilty plea be

 

[CaptainNancy]

Does anyone think his change in narrative is still controlling behaviour? So very out of his depth by day seven and so irredeemable his reputation, time for plan B: be the one to sway the fate for B or F. The villain hero.

I think he has no impulse control whatsoever.
Over anything.
Gambling, domestic violence, beating his child, feeling fleeting remorse, rushing to Pakistan, agreeing stupid press videos, chopping and changing, making grandiose confessions and statements, recanting the same....
And very little intelligence.

 

[su5ie]

Thanks.

Nevertheless,
I think some strategy should be observed, no?

It would be nice to inform his lawyer
and not make a fool out of him in front of the whole world
(in this instance).

Let's be serious.

PS
I HOPE there will NOT be a mistrial

JMO

Never thought he may be trying to do this . What would constitute a mis trial I'm not really clued up on the circumstances that would cause that

 

[Dotta]

I don't know. They sit in the dock next to an officer (sometimes the Serco staff, sometimes someone who looks like a prison or court staff- they wear uniforms) and there is one door out to what I presume are the holding cells / rooms, and a gate out into the court room. They are not handcuffed so I assume they just get up and walk out, followed by the officer. To avoid an unseemly scuffle in the court room. They wouldn't be able to get far.

When a jury comes back in to deliver a verdict there is an extra officer in the dock with the defendant.

Yep.
I remember Lucy L. also left suddenly, crying.

 

[Yellowbelly]

His barrister will need a stiff drink this evening!!!

This morning's events were clearly as much of a shock to his barrister as everybody else. I rather imagine that Urfan's second handbrake turn of the day has been brought about by his KC telling him during the lunch break that even if he pleads guilty to murder he's still going down for 40 years, so what's the point!

 

[Dotta]

I think he has no impulse control whatsoever.
Over anything.
Gambling, domestic violence, beating his child, feeling fleeting remorse, rushing to Pakistan, agreeing stupid press videos, chopping and changing, making grandiose confessions and statements, recanting the same....
And very little intelligence.

Exactly what I wrote upthread.

Poor Sara
Given by Court to this violent addict madman.
My Goodness!

 

[Skigh]

Sara Sharif's father admits beating 10-year-old daughter to death

Urfan Sharif, 42, admitted he had beaten the 10-year-old schoolgirl causing her death. But he denied murder saying: 'I was not intending to kill her, no.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

He accepted that he had been angry after she started defecating in fear and vomiting.

Ms Carberry asked: 'Did you hit her intentionally to cause really serious harm to her.'

Sharif looked down, sobbing: 'Yes maam.'

Ms Carberry added: 'You have pleaded not guilty to the offence of murder. Would you like the charge to be put to you again?'

Sharif answered: 'Yeah.'

The trial was halted after Sharif's barrister, Naeem Mian, KC, asked for time to speak to his client about a possible change in plea.
But after a break Sharif appeared to change his mind and insisted he was not guilty of murder.

After the recess, Ms Carberry asked: 'When you confirmed earlier today you beat her to death and you intended to cause her really serious harm that was an admission to the offence of murder.'

Sharif said: 'I did not want to hurt her. I didn't want to harm her.'

Ms Carberry responded: 'But you did harm her. What did you intend when you took a cricket bat to a 10-year-old girl?'

The defendant said: 'I did wrong. I didn't think anything.'

Ms Carberry asked: 'Do you accept that you killed her?'

He added: 'She died because of me but I did not want to kill her. It was not my intention.'

 

[Smithpanes]

Who killed Sara Sharif? Schoolgirl's stepmother and uncle decline to give evidence

Urfan Sharif, 42, his wife Beinash Batool, 30, and brother Faisal Malik, 29, are accused of years-long abuse which culminated in Sara Sharif's death.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[irnbru]

What the actual... he is lying about lying about lying? What?

I would give a lot to hear what his defence team said to him between his admission that he beat his little girl to death an his return to protestations of innocence a few hours later.

 

[Yellowbelly]

Sara Sharif's father admits beating 10-year-old daughter to death

Urfan Sharif, 42, admitted he had beaten the 10-year-old schoolgirl causing her death. But he denied murder saying: 'I was not intending to kill her, no.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

He accepted that he had been angry after she started defecating in fear and vomiting.

Ms Carberry asked: 'Did you hit her intentionally to cause really serious harm to her.'

Sharif looked down, sobbing: 'Yes maam.'

Ms Carberry added: 'You have pleaded not guilty to the offence of murder. Would you like the charge to be put to you again?'

Sharif answered: 'Yeah.'

The trial was halted after Sharif's barrister, Naeem Mian, KC, asked for time to speak to his client about a possible change in plea.
But after a break Sharif appeared to change his mind and insisted he was not guilty of murder.

After the recess, Ms Carberry asked: 'When you confirmed earlier today you beat her to death and you intended to cause her really serious harm that was an admission to the offence of murder.'

Sharif said: 'I did not want to hurt her. I didn't want to harm her.'

Ms Carberry responded: 'But you did harm her. What did you intend when you took a cricket bat to a 10-year-old girl?'

The defendant said: 'I did wrong. I didn't think anything.'

Ms Carberry asked: 'Do you accept that you killed her?'

He added: 'She died because of me but I did not want to kill her. It was not my intention.'

So the line now seems to be 'yes, I beat her up with a cricket bat, but I didn't intend to harm her, therefore it's not murder'. I can see that going down well!

 

[PKFS]

Urfan's barrister likely provided factual and strategic advice based on what has been produced as evidence and within the legal framework. While the barrister would help him understand his options and the consequences of his actions, he cannot dictate or manipulate his testimony. His role would have been to ensure Sharif’s decisions were informed and lawful.

 

[szerszeń]

Takie mi się nasunęły pytania i uwagi:
1. Czy Sara nie chorowała na Anaglezję, albo nie miała niższego poziomu odczuwania bólu? Chyba, że dostawała olbrzymie ilości środków przeciwbólowych kiedy jeszcze chodziła do szkoły...
2. US traktował swoją wiarę wybiórczo. Czy list przy łóżku Sary, żeby ją pochować jako muzułmankę, nie był przejawem wyrachowania? Islam odrzuca sekcję zwłok (jest niedozwolona), to może sobie pomyśleć/pomyśleli z BB- szybko Ją pochowają, nikt nie sprawdzi dodatkowych obrażeń?
3. Czy dlatego US dostał dzieci pod opiekę, że miał lepszego prawnika?

 

[Dotta]

Sara Sharif's father admits beating 10-year-old daughter to death

Urfan Sharif, 42, admitted he had beaten the 10-year-old schoolgirl causing her death. But he denied murder saying: 'I was not intending to kill her, no.'

www.dailymail.co.uk

He accepted that he had been angry after she started defecating in fear and vomiting.

Ms Carberry asked: 'Did you hit her intentionally to cause really serious harm to her.'

Sharif looked down, sobbing: 'Yes maam.'

Ms Carberry added: 'You have pleaded not guilty to the offence of murder. Would you like the charge to be put to you again?'

Sharif answered: 'Yeah.'

The trial was halted after Sharif's barrister, Naeem Mian, KC, asked for time to speak to his client about a possible change in plea.
But after a break Sharif appeared to change his mind and insisted he was not guilty of murder.

After the recess, Ms Carberry asked: 'When you confirmed earlier today you beat her to death and you intended to cause her really serious harm that was an admission to the offence of murder.'

Sharif said: 'I did not want to hurt her. I didn't want to harm her.'

Ms Carberry responded: 'But you did harm her. What did you intend when you took a cricket bat to a 10-year-old girl?'

The defendant said: 'I did wrong. I didn't think anything.'

Ms Carberry asked: 'Do you accept that you killed her?'

He added: 'She died because of me but I did not want to kill her. It was not my intention.'

Honestly,
Reading this I have déjà vu of talking to 7 year olds in my school.
"Sorry, sorry I didn't mean to."

What a circus

Prosecution, please do your Duty and finish this disgusting show!

JMO

 

[Moll]

This morning's events were clearly as much of a shock to his barrister as everybody else. I rather imagine that Urfan's second handbrake turn of the day has been brought about by his KC telling him during the lunch break that even if he pleads guilty to murder he's still going down for 40 years, so what's the point!

Yes, this sounds like the truth. Poor man (the barrister)!

 

[PKFS]

In UK courts, defendants are normally expected to stay in court during their trial. However, judges can allow someone to step out temporarily if they’re emotionally distressed.

Defendants may be permitted to leave the courtroom temporarily if they are emotionally distressed, provided the judge approves - since on humanitarian grounds, leaving the court crying is treated with leniency.

In this case, Batool was allowed to leave because of the of her crying during Sharif’s admission.

 

[Dotta]

Yes, this sounds like the truth. Poor man (the barrister)!

Hazard of the job!

 

[Dotta]

Besides,
IMO
U's first part of cross-e. by his lawyer was ridiculous.

Painting this defendant as a "loving parent and protector of family"
knowing perfectly well the evidence given by Pathologists.

Jeez!
My eyes might be permanently damaged from rolling.

And disgustingly alleging the teen brother's crime.
Through B's alleged words.

It would have been wiser to confess to some things THEN.

They just stupidly played into very shrewd B's Defence KC's hands.

JMO

 

[CaptainNancy]

The Daily Mail report says the jurors wept as they left the court room after his initial confession of beating her in the face with a cricket bat.

I really feel for them.

They are ordinary citizens, giving of their time without pay. Not professionals in the system who (sadly) listen to this sort of thing as part of their job.

They are victims too, in their own way.

 

[Moll]

Besides,
IMO
U's first part of cross-e. by his lawyer was ridiculous.

Painting this defendant as a "loving parent and protector of family"
knowing perfectly well the evidence given by Pathologists.

Jeez!
My eyes might be permanently damaged from rolling.

And disgustingly alleging the teen brother's crime.
Through B's alleged words.

It would have been wiser to confess to some things THEN.

They just stupidly played into very shrewd B's Defence KC's hands.

JMO

I don't think he had much to go on. Caroline Carberry made an excellent job of demolishing his story, of course. I didn't mean to suggest that a highly-paid barrister actually deserves pity (unlike the jurors, and obviously Sara) but US must be a nightmare client.