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One wonders if their brute caused basillar skull fracture- or worse.I guess it was
cerebrospinal fluid leak because of brain injury
JMO
GUILTY UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #4
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The jury haven't been out very long and there are 3 defendants to consider and a number of charges so no concerns at the moment. Personally, I don't think from the evidence given that Malik deserves a charge of murder. The other 2 do though. But we'll see soon enough.
Faisal Malik's defence has tried to emphasise that he wasn't there as much, he wasn't in a position of responsibility or care towards Sara (this is the key difference between him and Logan Mwangi's mother) and he can't be proved to have done anything (if you consider the prosecution evidence re DNA on belt and bat and uniform thrown away with Sara's things is not compelling enough), so he isn't in the same position as the other two.
On the other hand he lived in the house,was part of the escape plan and has done nothing to assist the court in finding out the truth about what happened, so personally I think he should be guilty at least of causing or allowing the death of a child. But we haven't heard all the details so of course we aren't in the same position as the jury.
If it is as you guess and just as I had suspected, would this fluid not have been present well before the day she died ,as the brain injury is suspected to have happened 2 weeks prior or maybe I'm wrong on that timeline ??? Open to correction.I guess it was
cerebrospinal fluid leak because of brain injury
JMO
I feel so sad that the truth may never be known as to what horror Sara went through and who done what
. Not that it will matter if the three get life it won't change the fact Sara died .
Urfan mentioned in his statement that himself and malik weren't particularly close and when his brother came to live with him it wasn't out of any closeness it was out of family duty . Imo urfan taking the blame was discussed between the 3 before they absconded and in Pakistan with the two brothers family and most probably it was decided to protect malik the younger son . No point losing 2 sons to a life sentence.
In Muslim societies sons are viewed as superior and very important in how a family is viewed Just because there is little proof available ( cough cough ring doorbell and phones ) doesn't mean malik didn't partake in inflicting violence onto Sara .I agree with you in so far as it might only be possible to sentence on allowing the death of a child . But I could nearly bet my own life he knew about the abuses and partook in some of the restraining and beatings .Sara's abuse was normalised in the house everyone living in it would have had the same disrespect and lack of affection for her . Even if malik was only occasionally verbally abusive he still was involved in Sara's demise . I will be gutted if he gets off as in the mind of urfan he will have inadvertently won as the lies and getting rid of evidence would have worked
Su5ie, I agree with you, I'm only trying to think about whether Faisal Malik's culpability for murder will have been proved.
I don't know what weight the jury will have been advised to give to the destruction of evidence, no-comment interviews, Sharif changing his evidence and admitting lying, the other two not giving evidence, etc.
I don't know what weight the jury will have been advised to give to the destruction of evidence, no-comment interviews, Sharif changing his evidence and admitting lying, the other two not giving evidence, etc.
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They have probably only discussed for about 5 hours so far ( allowing for lunch and breaks ).
With three defandants and a lot of evidence, that isn't very long.
I will be concerned if it goes beyond this week.
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‘Controlling the Narrative’: Sara Sharif’s Father Blamed as Defence Slams Evidence Against Uncle in Shocking Courtroom Finale.
Hi and Welcome to this Court update Report from the Sara Sharif Murder Trial.Sara Sharif’s Father ‘Controlling the Narrative,’ Jury Told.At the Old Bailey, jurors heard final arguments in the trial of Sara Sharif’s father, stepmother, and uncle, all accused of her murder. Michael Ivers KC...
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In the latter half of the article it discuses circumstantial evidence which is a large part of this case. I definitely think the jury will spend a full day looking over this to tie malik to at the very least being aware and allowing . I would hope the jury was privy to a lot lot more information than we were allowed know .
Pity good auld grandad didn't hand in the lost phones by now in consideration of his grandchildren seen as he says they will be given the best life .Not a chance if either of these 3 escape justice. I wonder did police interview the kids and if their testimonials cleared malik
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Wednesday, December 4
"The jury of 12
of nine women and three men
was told by the trial judge Justice Cavanagh on Tuesday
that they were under no time pressure,
adding that everyone in the trial deserved their
“complete attention and thoughtful consideration”.
He also asked that they try and reach unanimous verdicts.
Today,
the jury remained out considering the verdicts on the three defendants
who all pleaded not guilty to the charges of murder and and causing or allowing the death of a child."
"The jury of 12
of nine women and three men
was told by the trial judge Justice Cavanagh on Tuesday
that they were under no time pressure,
adding that everyone in the trial deserved their
“complete attention and thoughtful consideration”.
He also asked that they try and reach unanimous verdicts.
Today,
the jury remained out considering the verdicts on the three defendants
who all pleaded not guilty to the charges of murder and and causing or allowing the death of a child."
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In a trial of this complexity, and with the volume of evidence, a jury returning a verdict after short deliberations *could* give grounds for appeal. ie 'They didn't thoroughly consider all the evidence, and were led by emotion'.
The jury HAS to show they have properly discussed every possible angle.
The jury HAS to show they have properly discussed every possible angle.
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I guess U and B murder, M allowing
Agree with fingers crossed
Do we think there being 9 women is an advantage in this case? Can imagine how emotional it must have been imoWednesday, December 4
"The jury of 12
of nine women and three men
was told by the trial judge Justice Cavanagh on Tuesday
that they were under no time pressure,
adding that everyone in the trial deserved their
“complete attention and thoughtful consideration”.
He also asked that they try and reach unanimous verdicts.
Today,
the jury remained out considering the verdicts on the three defendants
who all pleaded not guilty to the charges of murder and and causing or allowing the death of a child."
I wonder why the Judge introduced manslaughter charge?
Hmmm....
Of course, I support Prosecution with 3xmurder,
(fingers crossed!!!!)
but looking at this situation realistically
I think U is the main villain:
psychopathic, unhinged, brutal addict and pathological liar.
Monster with capital M.
He was maniacally beating his OWN daughter with heavy cricket bat, breaking her bones, strangling her and damaging her hyoid bone.
Murdering her day by day.
He must never leave prison.
I agree with Sara's grandmother 100%.
He doesn't fit in civilized society.
JMO
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Agree, but I wouldn't be surprised if BB is found guilty of murder either; in my opinion she certainly contributed, though US has muddied the waters a lot with his evidence. I think she and FM will be the ones who will make this take longer; personally I don't feel FM is proved of anything above allowing (on the evidence I have heard, which is only snippets of what the jury have), but I fully understand those who want him to be found guilty of more, and imagine the jury will have varying opinions on him.
Yes I do think we need a reminder of the horrific injuries Sara endured. Some of quite an unusual nature too .
I have no doubt the jury will return a verdict of murder for urfan manslaughter or murder for bienash.
I'm sure the jury will mainly have the same opinion as us on malik . It's just making all the circumstantial evidence stack up to scrutiny if appealed on maliks behalf . I think anyone with a bit of logic can conclude anything other than he had to have known but it's proving it I don't envy the jury having to make that choice . I think that's why the experts hammered home the overcrowding in the house and anyone who lived there would have to have been aware .
A completely innocent man doesn't flee imo .at anytime malik could have backed out and he could have stated he wasn't home Seen as that's his plea anyway .if there is no trace of evidence linking him to the abuse and his claim is true why run . I don't see how fear would make you run to Pakistan.
I honestly think they all planned on staying in Pakistan and felt the Pakistan authorities wouldn't get involved and possibly view it as an honor killing .I think the only reason they returned to the UK is because the hassle other family members were getting in Pakistan. We wouldn't be having this court case if the other family members weren't arrested and pressured to tell were they were .
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