UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[Lady Stoddart-West]

VV was using a girlfriend’s silver renault runabout - in July 86 - although partial & known later for much flasher motors by 87.

 

[Kasparthecat1]

no, he said he was looking at the man, more than the woman.

He was gay, wasn't he? Makes sense he didn't really clock the woman.

 

[Officer Dibble]

His home town was Ascoli, Pinceno. Lived in Rome for many years.

Thanks for that The names I quoted above are southern italian names. However, I wonder where his mother comes from as Italian women keep their original surname. JMO MOO

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

Thanks for that The names I quoted above are southern italian names. However, I wonder where his mother comes from as Italian women keep their original surname. JMO MOO

Will have a look.

 

[kes1972]

VV was using a girlfriend’s silver renault runabout - in July 86 - although partial & known later for much flasher motors by 87.

It does resemble a fiesta to a degree

 

[kes1972]

Hi all

Here's a little teaser here...

Interesting that exactly one week after the disappearance of SL, when the police got WPC Suzanne Long to play the part of SL for a police reconstruction, that parked outside Sturgis on Chesilton Road, there was a dark coloured BMW captured in the shot.

The BMW appears to be a convertible.

Let's not forget that this reconstruction was filmed on Monday 4th August 1986, way before a BMW is even mentioned.

It's also fascinating that as WPC Suzanne Long walks out of the doorway, a man appears in the background as he walks into shot, and stands momentarily to watch. He can seen through the reflection of the mirror. As Suzanne then walks past the window, the man walks off. One would assume that this was the police officer who played Mr Kipper for the reconstruction, because if it wasn't then...

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Can you imagine.

Just a thought, if we assume maybe it was the staff member selling her flat, yes he could have access at anytime and gone through sl personal diary, i was thinking mossops or pow staff would get little from sl pocket diary etc, so probably taken from her flaton the friday as would know the comings and goings, i think those items were only taken to lead to thinking someone more distant had been involved, we have been overthinking all distant connections when in fact it is probably staring us in the face

 

[kes1972]

Hi all


Just wanted to check something regarding the Crimewatch reconstruction that was aired 81 days after SL vanished.

The Crimewatch reconstruction must have been filmed some time in either August or September 1986, because it was aired in Mid October.

Therefore, the shot below was taken relatively soon after SL disappeared.


We have the light blue Fiesta in the foreground that belonged to the garage owner that the back of SL's car partially (allegedly) encroached upon.

We also have the black taxi parked up, which was driven by the same man who saw SL's Fiesta parked up as he drove past circa 2pm on the day of SL's disappearance.


We then have the white Fiesta parked up on the left.



But my question is; is that a Red Ford Sierra parked up on the right?


And if so, whose Red Ford Sierra was it?


If only there was a potential suspect who was alleged to have driven a Red Ford Sierra.


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Furthermore, could SL's body have been dumped in the back of THAT car, for the killer to return to and dispose of at a later date?

Also is that taxi driver the one who reported his fare as the irishman?? And if so he was there at the time.

 

[kes1972]

BBM. Well you would imagine to save fees you would use Sturgis as you work there. So if that were the case, that leads me to ask: Were her flat keys available in the office to everyone, like all the other properties?

Thinking about this i feel the joint venture(mo, property) and the sale of the flat (by sturgis putney) are one in the same and connected

 

[kes1972]

So rather than choose to walk the 8 minute walk from the office to Foskett Road, Calvert chose to use the company vehicle to drive to the viewing. The same car that Suzy had driven to work that morning and the one found in Stevenage Road.
By the time he had walked into the side street, got into the car, adjusted the seat, and then drove to Foskett Road, and then found a place to park up etc... he could have got there on foot in just 8 minutes anyway, or 7 minutes if he was walking with purpose.

That's rather odd, unless he was running late.

I can understand it if the weather was poor, but it wasn't.

Spot on, i can feel this coming together just who is the other man / woman

 

[kes1972]

Other choice 1 fiesta pulls up behind her at 37sr, ruse of maybe lost key and viewing of her flat say’s customer is waiting and she says take my car as flat key on keyring (or they agree and then to meet after at a location to return keys)
The other car then used by sl and she drives herself to the said location after viewing, mr kipper was there and that made her make the quick decision, kipper follows her in his bmw

Just

It was a neighbour in Disraeli who referenced SL as ‘Susan’.

The ‘Susan’ VV referencing is a Swedish model I think. He is talking to the friend.

It was ‘Sarah’ calling the pub. VV poss not using the women’s real names.

Is there an Italian alias that sounds like ‘Kipper’?

Motor sports - yes a ‘scary’ date, about May.

do we know anything about this neighbour who referenced “susan”?

 

[WestLondoner]

It does resemble a fiesta to a degree

From the windows up this often so. MG's XR3i and a 3-series BMW had oddly similar roofline.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Thinking about this i feel the joint venture(mo, property) and the sale of the flat (by sturgis putney) are one in the same and connected

Or possibly her flat keys were only available to the other Sturgis office closer to her flat for sale. JMO MOO

 

[Officer Dibble]

It does resemble a fiesta to a degree

Yes it does

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

Also is that taxi driver the one who reported his fare as the irishman?? And if so he was there at the time.

Irishman?

We have the taxi driver resident of Stevenage Rd apparently seeing the fiesta, or a fiesta, parked up about 2pm ish. He saw it when he parked his cab.

We then have the Finlay St taxi driver who picked up ‘Galway’ lookalike about 2-2:30pm ish.

On Disraeli neighbour who referenced SL as ‘Susan’ we have nothing. DV went in search of reporter who wrote article - they’re deceased.

 

[kes1972]

Also is that taxi driver the one who reported his fare as the irishman?? And if so he was there at the time.

If we assume that is the sierra jc had use of we could assume someone he knew or taggart knew lived on or just off stevenage road, finlay ellerby or doneraille street. So it is possible sl is in one of the back gardens of that property.also the sierra is parked in a pretty empty street so the driver would have parked fairly close to the said property.can anyone say roughly where this is parked in the above picture

 

[GTB72]

Irishman?

We have the taxi driver resident of Stevenage Rd apparently seeing the fiesta, or a fiesta, parked up about 2pm ish. He saw it when he parked his cab.

We then have the Finlay St taxi driver who picked up ‘Galway’ lookalike about 2-2:30pm ish.

On Disraeli neighbour who referenced SL as ‘Susan’ we have nothing. DV went in search of reporter who wrote article - they’re deceased.

James Galway was Irish so perhaps that's what kes1972 was thinking of?

 

[kes1972]

James Galway was Irish so perhaps that's what kes1972 was thinking of?

Yes indeed, the name escaped me

 

[Kasparthecat1]

Irishman?

We have the taxi driver resident of Stevenage Rd apparently seeing the fiesta, or a fiesta, parked up about 2pm ish. He saw it when he parked his cab.

We then have the Finlay St taxi driver who picked up ‘Galway’ lookalike about 2-2:30pm ish.

On Disraeli neighbour who referenced SL as ‘Susan’ we have nothing. DV went in search of reporter who wrote article - they’re deceased.

But "Galway" himself didn't ever come forward, if memory serves?

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

But "Galway" himself didn't ever come forward, if memory serves?

He didn’t.

The separate, taxi driver resident of Stevenage Road, did. Confirming he’d seen a similar car in similar spot but not noting any garage overlap.

 

[kes1972]

But "Galway" himself didn't ever come forward, if memory serves?

No he did not but he was said to be wearing a blue and white striped rugby top