US coal mine collapse traps six-Utah - Thread No. 2

[JanetElaine]

Has your friends family seen him?

Nope. They're wondering the same thing. In a sarcastic kind of way, that is. I don't think he'd be too safe either if he showed his face there. But that's just what I get from their anger, they didn't say anything threatening or what.

 

[drew]

What you don't understand and what the media isn't telling you is. Mr Murray does not make one decision that MSHA doesn't approve first. They are just letting him take the rap. IMO from experience.

Drew,
I don't have a problem with you being in the coal industry, unless your Murray or his lieing stench men.

Mr Murray made ALL the decisions! It was his mine, his employees & personally nobody was / or is going to tell him what to do.

Why in the world would MSHA let Murray take the rap? Makes totally no sense. Is MSHA telling Murray to hide???? Please explain....

Also why doesn't the mines get each miner a device so they can be found in case of a cave in? Why is the Co equipment more important then the families of the miners? Please explain the reasoning.....[/QUOTE]

cheko1
I will try to say this very simply. All coal owners and coal companies answer directly to MSHA when there is any type of infraction or accident. From something as minor as a crooked nail to a terrible terrible cave in. MSHA patrols all mining jobs on a regular basis. Mine owners and employees are required by law to report all and any accidents immediately to MSHA. After reporting to MSHA, MSHA TAKES OVER AND MAKES ALL DECISIONS.
Why wouldn't MSHA let Murray take the rap, look at the way you are attacking him. Better him then them huh???

A device underground would never work. However in surface mining they are used and they do work.

 

[cheko1]

Nope. They're wondering the same thing. In a sarcastic kind of way, that is. I don't think he'd be too safe either if he showed his face there. But that's just what I get from their anger, they didn't say anything threatening or what.

Thank you JanetElaine......So it proves the families are not lieing its Murray & Co huh? I can't imagine how mad they all are, all they got was promises & more promises & now lies.

True men of there word huh?

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

cheko1, your opinions are probably more realistic than mine, lol. I do try hard to give everyone the benefit of the doubt but I'm really questioning things and why they are not being truthful as to Bob Murray's location or at least what he is doing at this time.

Thank you RKnowley, I value your opinion. Your always a fair & unbiased poster. Unlike me I call it as I see it! :blushing:

Guess they all dogged us again. From here on they're all a bunch of liars in my book.

 

[dark_shadows]

My heart hurts.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

I'm with you there.

My heart hurts.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

 

[cheko1]

Whoa there Drew......I am not attacking Murray! Murray has consistantly hung himsel. I had no part in that. Except to state that normally one lie leads to another lie & to another.......which is the case for Murray.

Murray made a choice, he DID NOT need to go before the world & make promises he couldn't keep! MSHA never promised nothing Bob Murray did! When Murray never liked the answers MSHA was giving he took over on the podium. Murray hung himself......I had no part of it nor did MSHA.

I worked for a shyster like Murray so I was VERY leary of him.
If the floors were buckling why did Murray take family & media to the cave in site?

Why wouldn't a device work underground? Is it because the mines are to deep?

 

[cheko1]

cheko1, your opinions are probably more realistic than mine, lol. I do try hard to give everyone the benefit of the doubt but I'm really questioning things and why they are not being truthful as to Bob Murray's location or at least what he is doing at this time.

Nahhhh RKnowley....... Your just a good hearted person & want to see the best in everyone. :blowkiss:

I probably came from the town of hard knocks!!! LOL

 

[dingo]

My heart hurts.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Mine too d_s

 

[cheko1]

My heart hurts.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Mine too
dark_shadows

 

[cheko1]

Mine Press Conference now set for 7pm

 

[Utopia]

Mine Press Conference now set for 7pm

Is that Eastern Time Cheko?

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

I think it would be 9PM eastern time

 

[cheko1]

Is that Eastern Time Cheko?

I think it's 7pm mountain time???
Guessing here it would be 8 Central time......
So 9 Eastern....I think.

Dang if I'm wrong someone correct me please.
I only know what time it is at my house. Oh did I
tell you'se I'm a blonde????? :slap:

 

[cheko1]

Mine Rescue Too Dangerous, Families Outraged

http://kutv.com/topstories/local_story_218103238.html

 

[close_enough]

Officals Say 6 Miners Are Unlikely To be Found:


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/u...f4deecc5cdc025&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

“These men are buried but there has been no funeral,” he said. “Without that, there is no closure.”

sad article, but realistic at the same time....sux

 

[Earthbound Misfit I]

cheko1, you are right about the times. See, even a blonde can figure that out! LOL

 

[JanetElaine]

Yeah it's 7pm mountain time so 9 EST.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

This has got to be so heart breaking for the families... I don't even know what to think though..I mean how many more miners should have to risk their life and die to find these guys? The rescue-miners are also someone elses husband,son,brother etc etc.. This is really a no-win situation when you think about it. As far as getting the equipment out of the mine I can understand that because they know exactly where the equipment is.

 

[cheko1]

:blowkiss: :blowkiss: Took me about forever!!! lol

cheko1, you are right about the times. See, even a blonde can figure that out! LOL