US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

  • #641
I find it absolutely incredible that so many nations have put up a billion dollars. Makes me wonder what the payment plan is or if the money gets refunded with interest if certain goals are met.
The billion dollars is only for those countries that wish to serve more than a three year term, which effectively means it's free for the first three years.

 
  • #642
Moo. His presidency time ends in 3 years. So he will get those billions. And ..well.. don't think it will be like the UN
 
  • #643
Moo. His presidency time ends in 3 years. So he will get those billions. And ..well.. don't think it will be like the UN

Yes, it's likely no coincidence that the 'free' membership is for three years and his term ends in 3 years.


The Trump administration sent out more than 50 invitations to countries around the world. Members are invited to join for free for three years.
At the end of the three-year period, the chairman of the peace board may then decide to renew a country's membership. However, if a country wishes to become a permanent member, they can do so by paying a $1 billion fee within the first year of joining the group.

 
  • #644
I found this very interesting website from Denmark called Verfassung which means constitution in English. This particular topic is about The End of NATO as we Know It

About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.
 
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  • #645
Well Trump/US won't be getting any of my gazillions of billions, and if I were a Greenlander you couldn't give me enough trillions of gazillions to make me move anywhere I didn't want to go, least of all to USA, or give away anything I don't want to, especially to the aforementioned country and leader.
 
  • #646
  • #647
This article in today's 'i' newspaper (UK) is interesting. I've seen it suggested elsewhere that the troops in Alaska seem unlikely for Minnesota 'peacekeeping' and it seems the Danes are still not entirely convinced the threat of invasion has been removed. It's a long article. I hope it's accessible but include a short extract below.


Navy Seals and Arctic paratroopers — why Trump's invasion threat was very real​

BIG READ The US has gathered intelligence about Greenland's defences and prepared elite troops, experts warn, as fears remain that the US could still strike
Security analysts have been concerned that the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division could be used to seize the Danish territory
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Rob Hastings
Special Projects Editor
January 23, 2026 6:00 am (Updated 10:00 am)

A few days ago, the US Department of War placed about 1,500 troops on standby for deployment at any moment.

Officially, this order was made in case Donald Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and sends the US military into the city of Minneapolis. The personnel would be ready to stop activists from disrupting raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), following the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an agent, two insiders told American media outlets.

Yet the choice of unit being put on alert was unusual: paratroopers stationed in Alaska, trained to fight in the very coldest conditions. They’re nicknamed the Arctic Angels. Normally, they work with a different kind of ice.

There have been fears in Denmark that these commandos from the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division are not intended for an operation against American protesters. Instead, could they have been preparing to invade the Danish territory of Greenland?
Hans Tino Hansen, founder of the Copenhagen-based firm Risk Intelligence, which analyses global security dangers, believes the threat of invasion was real – and still is.

He was alarmed when he heard the news about the 11th Airborne. “Why would you use US Army forces from Alaska in Minnesota?” he asks. Responding to domestic emergencies is the US National Guard’s job, and there are far closer units to choose from.

The 11th Airborne Division was established in 2022, when its personnel were told their mission was to “not only operate in extreme cold weather and mountainous terrain, but to build and demonstrate mastery of it”.

The division’s recent exercises also concern Hansen. He has heard unconfirmed reports that “they have been training to take an airport in an Arctic country during the last year”. Besides Greenland, he notes, there are few other places in the world where those skills would be needed.

(continued...)
 
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  • #648
I’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.

 
  • #649
That post cleverly does not specify what are considered "good things," or for whom those things are good.

Putin's very happy, to be sure. I suspect that Putin is still willing to do his best to keep the Epstein files from being fully released, now that NATO is destroyed and the USA is barreling towards becoming the new evil empire against which the world will be forced to align.

MOO
 
  • #650
It is heartening to see a few people standing up to Trump at last. A pity they're not Americans.
Well, did you catch the news that individual states in the US are supporting the Paris accords? Or that protesting is at record levels in the US? I am disappointed at many politicians who seem to be interested in coasting to retirement rather than speaking for Americans. But, IMO, Americans are standing up against Trump. America is not MAGA. MAGA is a (shrinking) vocal, activist group.

MOO

Edited to add: MAGA itself has always been "America First!" and they no longer generally believe that tariffs are doing what they had hoped. They are feeling only bad effects of tariffs. For example, Subaru has to move manufacturing of a model popular in Canada out of US to Japan, so they can sell at an affordable price to Canadians. Americans lose jobs. John Deere has to move manufacturing of smaller tractors and farm machines to central/South America where their buyers are so they can sell at affordable prices, and Americans lose jobs.

So, insofar as Greenland and anti NATO actions impact tariffs, even MAGA is not on board.

MIO
 
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  • #651
About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.
One thing of value around the North Pole is the shipping routes that are opening up as the ice caps melt.

Climate change? Trump is making lemonade. His trashing windmills, which help slow climate change, was not unrelated.

MOO
 
  • #652
We should just give him literally the 1951 agreement and let him think it's his idea

"Trump’s Greenland framework sounds a lot like an already existing 1951 deal"


Along similar lines...

 
  • #653
Well, did you catch the news that individual states in the US are supporting the Paris accords? Or that protesting is at record levels in the US? I am disappointed at many politicians who seem to be interested in coasting to retirement rather than speaking for Americans. But, IMO, Americans are standing up against Trump. America is not MAGA. MAGA is a (shrinking) vocal, activist group.
Thank you for pointing that out. Americans ARE doing something. Not only protesting, witnessing, and documenting like in Minnesota - every day in January, when it takes dedication and effort to be outside in that cold place - they are banding together as a community to provide aid and information to each other. To me, that is standing up with a firm core that they will not sacrifice their values. That is stand-up strength against the administration, imo.

That is an example.

jmo
 
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  • #654
I’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.

There's video of the cake-cutting at this link: Video Republicans cut Greenland-shaped cake with American flag at Kennedy Center party

The event was attended by:

Representative Anna Paulina Luna could be seen in one video of the event alongside fellow Representatives Andy Ogles and Abe Hamadeh. Also in attendance was George Simion, the leader of Romania’s far-right Alliance for the Union of Romanians party. Simion, who lost the 2025 Romanian presidential election, has been accused of acting as a Russian agent, and was even banned from Ukraine for pushing a “unionist ideology that denies the legitimacy of the state border of Ukraine,” according to Politico. Now he’s joined MAGA in its imperialistic venture on Greenland, something the anti-NATO Kremlin likely has little issue with, especially if it can get in on it too.

 
  • #655
Regarding Americans fighting the administration, today Minnesotans are holding a state-wide day of non-violent action of not going to work, school, or shops.

BBM

Despite the frigid cold, people are set to gather at 2 p.m. at The Commons in Minneapolis and take part in a mile-long march to Target Center in downtown Minneapolis where a rally will be held inside. The rally is a ticketed event, more information can be found here.

Many businesses in the Twin Cities are also closing or adjusting their hours on Friday. According to Indivisible Twin Cities, over 700 businesses have committed to close, dozens of places of faith are shutting their doors, and over a dozen unions and federations are joining in on Friday’s actions.



p.s. The forcast in Minneapolis calls for a high temp of -9 degrees F (which is -23 degrees C).
 

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