US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

[Yellowbelly]

I find it absolutely incredible that so many nations have put up a billion dollars. Makes me wonder what the payment plan is or if the money gets refunded with interest if certain goals are met.

The billion dollars is only for those countries that wish to serve more than a three year term, which effectively means it's free for the first three years.

Trump's Gaza peace board charter seeks $1 billion for extended membership, document shows

A draft charter sent to about 60 countries by the U.S. administration calls for members to contribute $1 billion in cash if they want their membership to last more than three years, according to the document seen by Reuters.

www.reuters.com

 

[nao]

Moo. His presidency time ends in 3 years. So he will get those billions. And ..well.. don't think it will be like the UN

 

[SouthAussie]

Moo. His presidency time ends in 3 years. So he will get those billions. And ..well.. don't think it will be like the UN

Yes, it's likely no coincidence that the 'free' membership is for three years and his term ends in 3 years.


The Trump administration sent out more than 50 invitations to countries around the world. Members are invited to join for free for three years.
At the end of the three-year period, the chairman of the peace board may then decide to renew a country's membership. However, if a country wishes to become a permanent member, they can do so by paying a $1 billion fee within the first year of joining the group.

Explainer: Trump Signs 'Board Of Peace' Into Existence

US President Donald Trump has unveiled his Board of Peace, an initiative he says will seek to resolve global conflicts and promote stability, peace, and governance “in areas affected or threatened by conflict.”

www.rferl.org

 

[Charlot123]

I found this very interesting website from Denmark called Verfassung which means constitution in English. This particular topic is about The End of NATO as we Know It

The End of NATO As We Know It

verfassungsblog.de

About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.

 

[Kemug]

Well Trump/US won't be getting any of my gazillions of billions, and if I were a Greenlander you couldn't give me enough trillions of gazillions to make me move anywhere I didn't want to go, least of all to USA, or give away anything I don't want to, especially to the aforementioned country and leader.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

We should just give him literally the 1951 agreement and let him think it's his idea

"Trump’s Greenland framework sounds a lot like an already existing 1951 deal"

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/22/politics/us-greenland-framework-1951-deal

 

[Moll]

This article in today's 'i' newspaper (UK) is interesting. I've seen it suggested elsewhere that the troops in Alaska seem unlikely for Minnesota 'peacekeeping' and it seems the Danes are still not entirely convinced the threat of invasion has been removed. It's a long article. I hope it's accessible but include a short extract below.

Navy Seals and Arctic paratroopers — why Trump's invasion threat was very real

The US has gathered intelligence about Greenland's defences and prepared elite troops, experts warn, as fears remain that the US could still strike

inews.co.uk

Navy Seals and Arctic paratroopers — why Trump's invasion threat was very real​

BIG READ The US has gathered intelligence about Greenland's defences and prepared elite troops, experts warn, as fears remain that the US could still strike
Security analysts have been concerned that the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division could be used to seize the Danish territory

Rob Hastings
Special Projects Editor
January 23, 2026 6:00 am (Updated 10:00 am)

A few days ago, the US Department of War placed about 1,500 troops on standby for deployment at any moment.

Officially, this order was made in case Donald Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and sends the US military into the city of Minneapolis. The personnel would be ready to stop activists from disrupting raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), following the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an agent, two insiders told American media outlets.

Yet the choice of unit being put on alert was unusual: paratroopers stationed in Alaska, trained to fight in the very coldest conditions. They’re nicknamed the Arctic Angels. Normally, they work with a different kind of ice.

There have been fears in Denmark that these commandos from the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division are not intended for an operation against American protesters. Instead, could they have been preparing to invade the Danish territory of Greenland?
Hans Tino Hansen, founder of the Copenhagen-based firm Risk Intelligence, which analyses global security dangers, believes the threat of invasion was real – and still is.

He was alarmed when he heard the news about the 11th Airborne. “Why would you use US Army forces from Alaska in Minnesota?” he asks. Responding to domestic emergencies is the US National Guard’s job, and there are far closer units to choose from.

The 11th Airborne Division was established in 2022, when its personnel were told their mission was to “not only operate in extreme cold weather and mountainous terrain, but to build and demonstrate mastery of it”.

The division’s recent exercises also concern Hansen. He has heard unconfirmed reports that “they have been training to take an airport in an Arctic country during the last year”. Besides Greenland, he notes, there are few other places in the world where those skills would be needed.

(continued...)

 

[Summerliz03]

I’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.

Greenland American Flag cake served at Republican Kennedy Center event

‘It’s gonna be an international incident,’ one partygoer said before the cake was sliced

www.the-independent.com

 

[Ruminations]

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https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115940231479630134

That post cleverly does not specify what are considered "good things," or for whom those things are good.

Putin's very happy, to be sure. I suspect that Putin is still willing to do his best to keep the Epstein files from being fully released, now that NATO is destroyed and the USA is barreling towards becoming the new evil empire against which the world will be forced to align.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

It is heartening to see a few people standing up to Trump at last. A pity they're not Americans.

Well, did you catch the news that individual states in the US are supporting the Paris accords? Or that protesting is at record levels in the US? I am disappointed at many politicians who seem to be interested in coasting to retirement rather than speaking for Americans. But, IMO, Americans are standing up against Trump. America is not MAGA. MAGA is a (shrinking) vocal, activist group.

MOO

Edited to add: MAGA itself has always been "America First!" and they no longer generally believe that tariffs are doing what they had hoped. They are feeling only bad effects of tariffs. For example, Subaru has to move manufacturing of a model popular in Canada out of US to Japan, so they can sell at an affordable price to Canadians. Americans lose jobs. John Deere has to move manufacturing of smaller tractors and farm machines to central/South America where their buyers are so they can sell at affordable prices, and Americans lose jobs.

So, insofar as Greenland and anti NATO actions impact tariffs, even MAGA is not on board.

MIO

 

[Ruminations]

About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.

One thing of value around the North Pole is the shipping routes that are opening up as the ice caps melt.

Climate change? Trump is making lemonade. His trashing windmills, which help slow climate change, was not unrelated.

MOO

 

[Moll]

We should just give him literally the 1951 agreement and let him think it's his idea

"Trump’s Greenland framework sounds a lot like an already existing 1951 deal"

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/22/politics/us-greenland-framework-1951-deal

Along similar lines...

The reality behind Trump's Greenland 'deal'

Donald Trump's team will act like he has achieved something with an apparent "framework of a deal" on Greenland. But be in no doubt, that's nonsense - and the US president has inflicted serious damage to the trans-Atlantic alliance.

news.sky.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Well, did you catch the news that individual states in the US are supporting the Paris accords? Or that protesting is at record levels in the US? I am disappointed at many politicians who seem to be interested in coasting to retirement rather than speaking for Americans. But, IMO, Americans are standing up against Trump. America is not MAGA. MAGA is a (shrinking) vocal, activist group.

Thank you for pointing that out. Americans ARE doing something. Not only protesting, witnessing, and documenting like in Minnesota - every day in January, when it takes dedication and effort to be outside in that cold place - they are banding together as a community to provide aid and information to each other. To me, that is standing up with a firm core that they will not sacrifice their values. That is stand-up strength against the administration, imo.

That is an example.

jmo

 

[Inthedetails]

I’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.

Greenland American Flag cake served at Republican Kennedy Center event

‘It’s gonna be an international incident,’ one partygoer said before the cake was sliced

www.the-independent.com

There's video of the cake-cutting at this link: Video Republicans cut Greenland-shaped cake with American flag at Kennedy Center party

The event was attended by:

Representative Anna Paulina Luna could be seen in one video of the event alongside fellow Representatives Andy Ogles and Abe Hamadeh. Also in attendance was George Simion, the leader of Romania’s far-right Alliance for the Union of Romanians party. Simion, who lost the 2025 Romanian presidential election, has been accused of acting as a Russian agent, and was even banned from Ukraine for pushing a “unionist ideology that denies the legitimacy of the state border of Ukraine,” according to Politico. Now he’s joined MAGA in its imperialistic venture on Greenland, something the anti-NATO Kremlin likely has little issue with, especially if it can get in on it too.

Republicans Cut Into Greenland Cake in Shocking Kennedy Center Party

The Republican members of Congress appeared at the event alongside a pro-Russian right-wing nationalist.

newrepublic.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Regarding Americans fighting the administration, today Minnesotans are holding a state-wide day of non-violent action of not going to work, school, or shops.

BBM

Despite the frigid cold, people are set to gather at 2 p.m. at The Commons in Minneapolis and take part in a mile-long march to Target Center in downtown Minneapolis where a rally will be held inside. The rally is a ticketed event, more information can be found here.

Many businesses in the Twin Cities are also closing or adjusting their hours on Friday. According to Indivisible Twin Cities, over 700 businesses have committed to close, dozens of places of faith are shutting their doors, and over a dozen unions and federations are joining in on Friday’s actions.

ICE in Minnesota: Business closures, downtown march mark ICE protest in Twin Cities

A general strike protesting ICE is unfolding across the Twin Cities on Friday, with business closures and a planned march and rally in downtown Minneapolis.

www.fox9.com

p.s. The forcast in Minneapolis calls for a high temp of -9 degrees F (which is -23 degrees C). That's not including windchill, which makes it feel much colder.

 

[BetsieR1]

Hey mods thanks for the delete. "I hope Obama wears his tan suit to the funeral" is absolutely related to this discussion. I don't know if you've noticed, but this whole thread is a commentary of how fall we've fallen in American politics, and this is an apt metaphor.

 

[otto]

Looks like Trump has rescinded his invitation for Canada to join his "Peace Board" per his truth social post.

Greenland, the Kingdom of Denmark, the EU, and NATO should be wary of every agreement and discussion with the US Government. Repeatedly, we see the US Government cancel invitations, violate agreements (NATO Article 1), and break law (bombed boats in the Pacific Ocean) to subjugate small and middle powers.

Prime Minister Carney gave strong advice to middle powers at Davos. He explained that when middle powers negotiate with major powers one-on-one, they are disadvantaged as they compete against each other for a better trade deal. By uniting, middle powers can push their priorities to the world stage.

When Trump emerged from a meeting with Mark Rutte at Davos, he announced that he struck an infinite deal for Greenland and natural resource wealth. He triggered discussion about whether the US would be granted sovereignty over territory in Greenland even though land ownership does not exist in the country. Rutte did not confirm this.

In my opinion, the US Government says whatever it believes to be necessary to isolate and intimidate small and middle powers for the purpose of exploitation. Mark Carney, an economist with degrees from Harvard and Oxford, can and will hold his ground with the US Government, will stand up for democracy, and will not be intimidated by Trump. The best the US Government can come up with is "you are uninvited to my rule the world party, where the fee is $1 billion dollars."

Canada provided words of wisdom, the US responded with you can't come to my party. It will be far worse for Greenland when the US is not gifted infinite access to Greenland's assets.

"Dear Prime Minister Carney: Please let this Letter serve to represent that the Board of Peace is withdrawing its invitation to you regarding Canada’s joining, what will be, the most prestigious Board of Leaders ever assembled, at any time," Trump wrote in his post.
...

Many rights experts and advocates have previously raised concerns about Trump overseeing a ‍board to supervise a foreign territory's governance.
...

Trump complained that Canada should be "grateful" for the U.S. "I watched your prime minister yesterday. He wasn't so grateful — they should be grateful to the U.S., Canada. Canada lives because of the United States,"

The prime minister argued that the "great powers" — like the U.S. — are using economic integration as "weapons," and argued that negotiating with those countries bilaterally puts middle powers like Canada at disadvantage.

Carney proposed that like-minded middle powers band together to push their priorities on the world stage, even if it's issue by issue.

"Canada and the United States have built a remarkable partnership. In the economy, in security and in rich cultural exchange. But Canada doesn't live because of the United States," Carney said. "Canada thrives because we are Canadian."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-board-of-peace-canada-uninvited-carney-letter-9.7057437

Article 1​

The Parties undertake, as set forth in the Charter of the United Nations, to settle any international dispute in which they may be involved by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered, and to refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force in any manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations.

The North Atlantic Treaty

The Parties to this Treaty reaffirm their faith in the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and their desire to live in peace with all peoples and all governments. They are determined to safeguard the freedom, common heritage and civilisation of their peoples, founded on...

www.nato.int

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[Moll]

Given that Trump's extraordinary remarks about NATO countries not fighting on the front line were made in the context of the US allegedly being unable to rely on help from allies, I hope this piece of fact-checking by the BBC will not be seen as irrelevant.

Most troops killed in Afghanistan were American - but Nato allies suffered significant losses
15:20​

By Tamara Kovacevic and Rob England

Downing Street says comments by US President Donald Trump - that Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan - were “wrong”.

Following the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the US invoked Nato’s Article 5 - which treats an attack on one member as an attack against them all - and launched military action in Afghanistan.

A total of 51 countries - both Nato and non-Nato , external- took part in the conflict that followed.

Among Nato nations that fought in Afghanistan, 24 suffered casualties according to iCasualities, external, a website that has tracked deaths in the war from 2001 to 2021, when the troops withdrew.

Over this period, the US suffered the highest number of deaths overall – 2,465 - followed by the UK with 457, external and Canada with 158.

However, if you express Nato deaths in Afghanistan in proportion to these countries’ populations, the US had 7.9 deaths per million, closely followed by Denmark with 7.7, the UK with 7.2 and Estonia with 6.7.
(BBM)

Downing Street says Trump 'wrong' to claim Nato troops avoided Afghanistan front line

Veterans and bereaved families call the comments insulting, as the prime minister's spokesperson says "we are incredibly proud of our armed forces".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[otto]

About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.

In my opinion, although the US has no significant presence in the Arctic Region, the US sees it as an opportunity to control global trade (and get rich). Therefore, the US needs to seize land in the region to establish authority.

The green shipping route exists today along Canada's North coast. Same with the red shipping route along Russia's North coast. The blue route does not yet exists, but some countries are hoping that Arctic melt (or ice breakers) will open that route. China and the US probably want the blue route to avoid territorial sea claims and environmental law in Canada or Russia.

In my opinion, one reason the US wants to annex Canada is to own the green route and territorial waters. One reason the US wants to annex Greenland is to control the green route and the blue route. Control of these trade routes by a hostile country could result in tariffs and fees on every country that passes through the region. For example, a country like the US could profit every time China ships goods to Europe via this route.

Bottom line ... the US sees an opportunity in the Arctic Region, but has no rights. On that basis, the US is trying to steal land to establish rights.

map: Shipping Routes - Arctic Portal - The Arctic Gateway

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[otto]

This article in today's 'i' newspaper (UK) is interesting. I've seen it suggested elsewhere that the troops in Alaska seem unlikely for Minnesota 'peacekeeping' and it seems the Danes are still not entirely convinced the threat of invasion has been removed. It's a long article. I hope it's accessible but include a short extract below.

Navy Seals and Arctic paratroopers — why Trump's invasion threat was very real

The US has gathered intelligence about Greenland's defences and prepared elite troops, experts warn, as fears remain that the US could still strike

inews.co.uk

Navy Seals and Arctic paratroopers — why Trump's invasion threat was very real​

BIG READ The US has gathered intelligence about Greenland's defences and prepared elite troops, experts warn, as fears remain that the US could still strike
Security analysts have been concerned that the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division could be used to seize the Danish territory

Rob Hastings
Special Projects Editor
January 23, 2026 6:00 am (Updated 10:00 am)

A few days ago, the US Department of War placed about 1,500 troops on standby for deployment at any moment.

Officially, this order was made in case Donald Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and sends the US military into the city of Minneapolis. The personnel would be ready to stop activists from disrupting raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), following the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an agent, two insiders told American media outlets.

Yet the choice of unit being put on alert was unusual: paratroopers stationed in Alaska, trained to fight in the very coldest conditions. They’re nicknamed the Arctic Angels. Normally, they work with a different kind of ice.

There have been fears in Denmark that these commandos from the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division are not intended for an operation against American protesters. Instead, could they have been preparing to invade the Danish territory of Greenland?
Hans Tino Hansen, founder of the Copenhagen-based firm Risk Intelligence, which analyses global security dangers, believes the threat of invasion was real – and still is.

He was alarmed when he heard the news about the 11th Airborne. “Why would you use US Army forces from Alaska in Minnesota?” he asks. Responding to domestic emergencies is the US National Guard’s job, and there are far closer units to choose from.

The 11th Airborne Division was established in 2022, when its personnel were told their mission was to “not only operate in extreme cold weather and mountainous terrain, but to build and demonstrate mastery of it”.

The division’s recent exercises also concern Hansen. He has heard unconfirmed reports that “they have been training to take an airport in an Arctic country during the last year”. Besides Greenland, he notes, there are few other places in the world where those skills would be needed.

(continued...)

Given the numerous statements from the US government that they must have Greenland, and will own Greenland - one way or another - I don't think anyone should believe that this goal was abandoned without explanation.