US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

[Sarahlou]

Given that Trump's extraordinary remarks about NATO countries not fighting on the front line were made in the context of the US allegedly being unable to rely on help from allies, I hope this piece of fact-checking by the BBC will not be seen as irrelevant.

Most troops killed in Afghanistan were American - but Nato allies suffered significant losses​

15:20​

By Tamara Kovacevic and Rob England

Downing Street says comments by US President Donald Trump - that Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan - were “wrong”.

Following the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the US invoked Nato’s Article 5 - which treats an attack on one member as an attack against them all - and launched military action in Afghanistan.

A total of 51 countries - both Nato and non-Nato , external- took part in the conflict that followed.

Among Nato nations that fought in Afghanistan, 24 suffered casualties according to iCasualities, external, a website that has tracked deaths in the war from 2001 to 2021, when the troops withdrew.

Over this period, the US suffered the highest number of deaths overall – 2,465 - followed by the UK with 457, external and Canada with 158.

However, if you express Nato deaths in Afghanistan in proportion to these countries’ populations, the US had 7.9 deaths per million, closely followed by Denmark with 7.7, the UK with 7.2 and Estonia with 6.7.
(BBM)

Downing Street says Trump 'wrong' to claim Nato troops avoided Afghanistan front line

Veterans and bereaved families call the comments insulting, as the prime minister's spokesperson says "we are incredibly proud of our armed forces".

www.bbc.co.uk

From this link:

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer says Donald Trump's remarks about British troops in Afghanistan are "insulting and frankly appalling"

"If I had misspoken in that way - or said those words - I would certainly apologise," he says

 

[otto]

I’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.

Greenland American Flag cake served at Republican Kennedy Center event

‘It’s gonna be an international incident,’ one partygoer said before the cake was sliced

www.the-independent.com

It looks like the US Government has retreated to presenting the invasion of a sovereign country as a joke filled with taunts and ridicule. That won't last long. Recall that the US is at war with Canada: Economic War, with the goal to destroy the economy and force Canada to join the US. That won't happen, but the war is ongoing. The aggression against Greenland will escalate again from a new angle that hopes to bypass NATO.

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[otto]

Given that Trump's extraordinary remarks about NATO countries not fighting on the front line were made in the context of the US allegedly being unable to rely on help from allies, I hope this piece of fact-checking by the BBC will not be seen as irrelevant.

Most troops killed in Afghanistan were American - but Nato allies suffered significant losses​

15:20​

By Tamara Kovacevic and Rob England

Downing Street says comments by US President Donald Trump - that Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan - were “wrong”.

Following the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the US invoked Nato’s Article 5 - which treats an attack on one member as an attack against them all - and launched military action in Afghanistan.

A total of 51 countries - both Nato and non-Nato , external- took part in the conflict that followed.

Among Nato nations that fought in Afghanistan, 24 suffered casualties according to iCasualities, external, a website that has tracked deaths in the war from 2001 to 2021, when the troops withdrew.

Over this period, the US suffered the highest number of deaths overall – 2,465 - followed by the UK with 457, external and Canada with 158.

However, if you express Nato deaths in Afghanistan in proportion to these countries’ populations, the US had 7.9 deaths per million, closely followed by Denmark with 7.7, the UK with 7.2 and Estonia with 6.7.
(BBM)

Downing Street says Trump 'wrong' to claim Nato troops avoided Afghanistan front line

Veterans and bereaved families call the comments insulting, as the prime minister's spokesperson says "we are incredibly proud of our armed forces".

www.bbc.co.uk

Everything presented by the US government at Davos has to be fact-checked. There may not be much left once the propaganda is removed.

"Trump questioned Europe's commitment to NATO. "We would be there 100 percent, but I'm not sure they would be there for us," Trump said, citing NATO Article 5, which states that "an attack on one is an attack on all."

However, Article 5 has only been invoked once, and the Europeans came to the aid of the United States. This happened after the 9/11 attacks.
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Canada, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, and Germany, among others, participated in military operations in Afghanistan. Belgium also provided F-16s, along with ground troops and instructors. The Belgian engagement in Afghanistan lasted a full 20 years. Several countries also conducted patrols within US airspace in the aftermath of 9/11.
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The claim that Europeans have shown no willingness to support the US in the past is untrue. There are no indications that Europe would hesitate militarily in the event of a foreign attack on a NATO ally."

Heeft de VS Groenland gered in WO II? En bestaat Canada door de VS? Dit klopt (niet) van beweringen van Donald Trump | VRT NWS: nieuws

"De Verenigde Staten hebben Groenland gered tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog", "Canada bestaat door de VS" en "de NAVO zou ons waarschijnlijk niet te hulp schieten". Het zijn 3 uitspraken van Donald Trump tijdens zijn toespraak op het Wereld Economisch Forum in Davos, maar kloppen ze ook? Tijd...

www.vrt.be

~ in my opinion ~​

 

[LAborn]

From this link:

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer says Donald Trump's remarks about British troops in Afghanistan are "insulting and frankly appalling"

"If I had misspoken in that way - or said those words - I would certainly apologise," he says

I think those pesky numbers and realities would tax his brain. JMO

 

[Moll]

Everything presented by the US government at Davos has to be fact-checked. There may not be much left once the propaganda is removed.

"Trump questioned Europe's commitment to NATO. "We would be there 100 percent, but I'm not sure they would be there for us," Trump said, citing NATO Article 5, which states that "an attack on one is an attack on all."

However, Article 5 has only been invoked once, and the Europeans came to the aid of the United States. This happened after the 9/11 attacks.
...

Canada, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, and Germany, among others, participated in military operations in Afghanistan. Belgium also provided F-16s, along with ground troops and instructors. The Belgian engagement in Afghanistan lasted a full 20 years. Several countries also conducted patrols within US airspace in the aftermath of 9/11.
...

The claim that Europeans have shown no willingness to support the US in the past is untrue. There are no indications that Europe would hesitate militarily in the event of a foreign attack on a NATO ally."

Heeft de VS Groenland gered in WO II? En bestaat Canada door de VS? Dit klopt (niet) van beweringen van Donald Trump | VRT NWS: nieuws

"De Verenigde Staten hebben Groenland gered tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog", "Canada bestaat door de VS" en "de NAVO zou ons waarschijnlijk niet te hulp schieten". Het zijn 3 uitspraken van Donald Trump tijdens zijn toespraak op het Wereld Economisch Forum in Davos, maar kloppen ze ook? Tijd...

www.vrt.be

~ in my opinion ~​

Agreed. I think, though, that your list of countries should include and highlight Denmark, in the circumstances and given its high casualty rate in proportion to its population.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Danish troops were combat ready in Greenland - report

Troops sent to Greenland by Denmark were ordered to be combat ready in case the United States attacked the autonomous Danish territory, Danish public broadcaster DR has reported.

US President Donald Trump backed down on threats to seize Greenland by force after meeting NATO chief Mark Rutte on Wednesday, saying he had reached a "framework" of a deal on the Arctic island.

Prior to that, Mr Trump had not ruled out the use of force, insisting that the US needed Greenland for "national security".

DR said a Danish military order last week said soldiers in Greenland should be equipped with live ammunition.

It also outlined a multi-phase operation that included the possibility of sending additional forces and assets later, if needed.

Civilian and military aircraft then began transporting soldiers and equipment to Greenland, according to DR.

The deployment was officially a part of the Danish-led military exercise Arctic Endurance, which Copenhagen has said will continue "throughout large parts of the coming year."
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Danish troops were combat ready in Greenland - report

Troops sent to Greenland by Denmark were ordered to be combat ready in case the United States attacked the autonomous Danish territory, Danish public broadcaster DR has reported.

www.rte.ie

 

[MelmothTheLost]

There's been a fair amount of commentary on X over the past 24 hours suggesting that Trump is dying, citing both the very visible decline in his general appearance in the past year and his orange make-up becoming more yellow, suggesting liver or pancreatic failure. IF it's true, it might explain why various matters have suddenly become so urgent for him.

 

[Lebowski]

There's been a fair amount of commentary on X over the past 24 hours suggesting that Trump is dying, citing both the very visible decline in his general appearance in the past year and his orange make-up becoming more yellow, suggesting liver or pancreatic failure. IF it's true, it might explain why various matters have suddenly become so urgent for him.

i had that thought. i don't have an opinion on possible signs of terminal illness themselves, but it does some like we've had a recent flurry of activity that's both crazier than usual and sort of aiming bigger, and that could be a sign of someone whose time is running out.

 

[BetsieR1]

There's been a fair amount of commentary on X over the past 24 hours suggesting that Trump is dying, citing both the very visible decline in his general appearance in the past year and his orange make-up becoming more yellow, suggesting liver or pancreatic failure. IF it's true, it might explain why various matters have suddenly become so urgent for him.

It seems like we've had wave after wave of health scares (hopes and dreams) since his first term. He survived covid, an assassination attempt (allegedly), and scandal after scandal. I won't get too amped up until it's good and done. Then I'll party in the streets. Anywho, back to Greenland, as a casually interested American I just don't understand this sudden fixation. At first it seemed like he brought it up like some sort of placeholder for future distraction, and now he's using it. So that tells me there's something more significant in the works. Epstein?

 

[LAborn]

There's been a fair amount of commentary on X over the past 24 hours suggesting that Trump is dying, citing both the very visible decline in his general appearance in the past year and his orange make-up becoming more yellow, suggesting liver or pancreatic failure. IF it's true, it might explain why various matters have suddenly become so urgent for him.

What worries me is his staff will remain after he passes, and they are just as bad imo.

 

[otto]

An apology is required from the US Government to NATO countries for the sake of the US people.

NATO countries demand an apology from the US Government for making false statement at Davos, and on US media, regarding NATO participation in defending the US after the US invoked NATO Article 5 in 2001. Unless the US Government retracts the false statements, and presents fact, many people in the US will continue to feel like victims of NATO. A country filled with people who believe they are repeatedly victimized by NATO countries is a psychologically unhealthy population.

Only one country has invoked NATO Article 5, and that was the US. All NATO countries fully honoured their commitment. The US population deserves the truth in order to make informed choices.

"Trump reiterated on Fox News his remarks at the World Economic Forum in Davos that he was "not sure" whether NATO allies would be there for the US "if we ever need them." "They'll say they sent some troops to Afghanistan," Trump said. "And they did. But they stayed a little bit behind, a little bit away from the front lines."
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De Hoop Scheffer was Secretary General of NATO between 2004 and 2009. " ... a coalition of fifty countries and a lot of partners who were fighting on the front lines and losing soldiers. Then you get this," says the former top diplomat.

The former NATO chief wants the US president to apologize to the military personnel and their families.
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The NATO mission in Afghanistan began after the United States activated Article 5 of the NATO Treaty following the September 11, 2001, attacks.
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Foreign Minister Van Weel also emphasizes that Trump's statements are inaccurate. "We were there, and for every American, a European was also killed. We keep repeating that message, because this must be countered with facts."

Woede om woorden Trump over NAVO-troepen in Afghanistan: 'Bleven weg van het front'

Onder anderen oud-NAVO-chef De Hoop Scheffer en premier Starmer van het Verenigd Koninkrijk willen dat Trump zijn excuses aanbiedt.

nos.nl

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

There's been a fair amount of commentary on X over the past 24 hours suggesting that Trump is dying, citing both the very visible decline in his general appearance in the past year and his orange make-up becoming more yellow, suggesting liver or pancreatic failure. IF it's true, it might explain why various matters have suddenly become so urgent for him.

No doubt…by the usual suspects.