US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

  • #661
Given that Trump's extraordinary remarks about NATO countries not fighting on the front line were made in the context of the US allegedly being unable to rely on help from allies, I hope this piece of fact-checking by the BBC will not be seen as irrelevant.

BBC Verify

Most troops killed in Afghanistan were American - but Nato allies suffered significant losses​

15:20​


By Tamara Kovacevic and Rob England

Downing Street says comments by US President Donald Trump - that Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan - were “wrong”.

Following the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the US invoked Nato’s Article 5 - which treats an attack on one member as an attack against them all - and launched military action in Afghanistan.

A total of 51 countries - both Nato and non-Nato , external- took part in the conflict that followed.

Among Nato nations that fought in Afghanistan, 24 suffered casualties according to iCasualities, external, a website that has tracked deaths in the war from 2001 to 2021, when the troops withdrew.

Over this period, the US suffered the highest number of deaths overall – 2,465 - followed by the UK with 457, external and Canada with 158.

However, if you express Nato deaths in Afghanistan in proportion to these countries’ populations, the US had 7.9 deaths per million, closely followed by Denmark with 7.7, the UK with 7.2 and Estonia with 6.7.
(BBM)


From this link:

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer says Donald Trump's remarks about British troops in Afghanistan are "insulting and frankly appalling"

"If I had misspoken in that way - or said those words - I would certainly apologise," he says
 
  • #662
I’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.

It looks like the US Government has retreated to presenting the invasion of a sovereign country as a joke filled with taunts and ridicule. That won't last long. Recall that the US is at war with Canada: Economic War, with the goal to destroy the economy and force Canada to join the US. That won't happen, but the war is ongoing. The aggression against Greenland will escalate again from a new angle that hopes to bypass NATO.

~ in my humble opinion ~
 
  • #663
Given that Trump's extraordinary remarks about NATO countries not fighting on the front line were made in the context of the US allegedly being unable to rely on help from allies, I hope this piece of fact-checking by the BBC will not be seen as irrelevant.

BBC Verify

Most troops killed in Afghanistan were American - but Nato allies suffered significant losses​

15:20​


By Tamara Kovacevic and Rob England

Downing Street says comments by US President Donald Trump - that Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan - were “wrong”.

Following the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the US invoked Nato’s Article 5 - which treats an attack on one member as an attack against them all - and launched military action in Afghanistan.

A total of 51 countries - both Nato and non-Nato , external- took part in the conflict that followed.

Among Nato nations that fought in Afghanistan, 24 suffered casualties according to iCasualities, external, a website that has tracked deaths in the war from 2001 to 2021, when the troops withdrew.

Over this period, the US suffered the highest number of deaths overall – 2,465 - followed by the UK with 457, external and Canada with 158.

However, if you express Nato deaths in Afghanistan in proportion to these countries’ populations, the US had 7.9 deaths per million, closely followed by Denmark with 7.7, the UK with 7.2 and Estonia with 6.7.
(BBM)

Everything presented by the US government at Davos has to be fact-checked. There may not be much left once the propaganda is removed.

"Trump questioned Europe's commitment to NATO. "We would be there 100 percent, but I'm not sure they would be there for us," Trump said, citing NATO Article 5, which states that "an attack on one is an attack on all."

However, Article 5 has only been invoked once, and the Europeans came to the aid of the United States. This happened after the 9/11 attacks.
...

Canada, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, and Germany, among others, participated in military operations in Afghanistan. Belgium also provided F-16s, along with ground troops and instructors. The Belgian engagement in Afghanistan lasted a full 20 years. Several countries also conducted patrols within US airspace in the aftermath of 9/11.
...

The claim that Europeans have shown no willingness to support the US in the past is untrue. There are no indications that Europe would hesitate militarily in the event of a foreign attack on a NATO ally."


~ in my opinion ~
 
  • #664
From this link:

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer says Donald Trump's remarks about British troops in Afghanistan are "insulting and frankly appalling"

"If I had misspoken in that way - or said those words - I would certainly apologise," he says
I think those pesky numbers and realities would tax his brain. JMO
 
  • #665
Everything presented by the US government at Davos has to be fact-checked. There may not be much left once the propaganda is removed.

"Trump questioned Europe's commitment to NATO. "We would be there 100 percent, but I'm not sure they would be there for us," Trump said, citing NATO Article 5, which states that "an attack on one is an attack on all."

However, Article 5 has only been invoked once, and the Europeans came to the aid of the United States. This happened after the 9/11 attacks.
...

Canada, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, and Germany, among others, participated in military operations in Afghanistan. Belgium also provided F-16s, along with ground troops and instructors. The Belgian engagement in Afghanistan lasted a full 20 years. Several countries also conducted patrols within US airspace in the aftermath of 9/11.
...

The claim that Europeans have shown no willingness to support the US in the past is untrue. There are no indications that Europe would hesitate militarily in the event of a foreign attack on a NATO ally."


~ in my opinion ~
Agreed. I think, though, that your list of countries should include and highlight Denmark, in the circumstances and given its high casualty rate in proportion to its population.
 
  • #666
Danish troops were combat ready in Greenland - report

Troops sent to Greenland by Denmark were ordered to be combat ready in case the United States attacked the autonomous Danish territory, Danish public broadcaster DR has reported.

US President Donald Trump backed down on threats to seize Greenland by force after meeting NATO chief Mark Rutte on Wednesday, saying he had reached a "framework" of a deal on the Arctic island.

Prior to that, Mr Trump had not ruled out the use of force, insisting that the US needed Greenland for "national security".

DR said a Danish military order last week said soldiers in Greenland should be equipped with live ammunition.

It also outlined a multi-phase operation that included the possibility of sending additional forces and assets later, if needed.

Civilian and military aircraft then began transporting soldiers and equipment to Greenland, according to DR.

The deployment was officially a part of the Danish-led military exercise Arctic Endurance, which Copenhagen has said will continue "throughout large parts of the coming year."
...
 
  • #667
There's been a fair amount of commentary on X over the past 24 hours suggesting that Trump is dying, citing both the very visible decline in his general appearance in the past year and his orange make-up becoming more yellow, suggesting liver or pancreatic failure. IF it's true, it might explain why various matters have suddenly become so urgent for him.
 
  • #668
There's been a fair amount of commentary on X over the past 24 hours suggesting that Trump is dying, citing both the very visible decline in his general appearance in the past year and his orange make-up becoming more yellow, suggesting liver or pancreatic failure. IF it's true, it might explain why various matters have suddenly become so urgent for him.
i had that thought. i don't have an opinion on possible signs of terminal illness themselves, but it does some like we've had a recent flurry of activity that's both crazier than usual and sort of aiming bigger, and that could be a sign of someone whose time is running out.
 

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