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That post cleverly does not specify what are considered "good things," or for whom those things are good.
Well, did you catch the news that individual states in the US are supporting the Paris accords? Or that protesting is at record levels in the US? I am disappointed at many politicians who seem to be interested in coasting to retirement rather than speaking for Americans. But, IMO, Americans are standing up against Trump. America is not MAGA. MAGA is a (shrinking) vocal, activist group.It is heartening to see a few people standing up to Trump at last. A pity they're not Americans.
One thing of value around the North Pole is the shipping routes that are opening up as the ice caps melt.About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.
We should just give him literally the 1951 agreement and let him think it's his idea
"Trump’s Greenland framework sounds a lot like an already existing 1951 deal"
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Thank you for pointing that out. Americans ARE doing something. Not only protesting, witnessing, and documenting like in Minnesota - every day in January, when it takes dedication and effort to be outside in that cold place - they are banding together as a community to provide aid and information to each other. To me, that is standing up with a firm core that they will not sacrifice their values. That is stand-up strength against the administration, imo.Well, did you catch the news that individual states in the US are supporting the Paris accords? Or that protesting is at record levels in the US? I am disappointed at many politicians who seem to be interested in coasting to retirement rather than speaking for Americans. But, IMO, Americans are standing up against Trump. America is not MAGA. MAGA is a (shrinking) vocal, activist group.
There's video of the cake-cutting at this link: Video Republicans cut Greenland-shaped cake with American flag at Kennedy Center partyI’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.
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Greenland American Flag cake served at Republican Kennedy Center event
‘It’s gonna be an international incident,’ one partygoer said before the cake was slicedwww.the-independent.com
Greenland, the Kingdom of Denmark, the EU, and NATO should be wary of every agreement and discussion with the US Government. Repeatedly, we see the US Government cancel invitations, violate agreements (NATO Article 1), and break law (bombed boats in the Pacific Ocean) to subjugate small and middle powers.Looks like Trump has rescinded his invitation for Canada to join his "Peace Board" per his truth social post.
In my opinion, although the US has no significant presence in the Arctic Region, the US sees it as an opportunity to control global trade (and get rich). Therefore, the US needs to seize land in the region to establish authority.About the wars. JMO, I don’t foresee them being “over Narva.” I don’t see Narva in the cards tomorrow. Climate change still exists. The wars may be over water or pieces of land not yet underwater. I can’t understand the concept of Arctic dominance. (I have no knowledge. I understand geometry but it is all). But we don’t even know for sure how the climate will change. With the global warming, how would Arctic look like? Seriously, can we predict the map of 2030? We are thinking about “nukes”, but there may be so little habitable land that it would be too precious to nuke it.
Given the numerous statements from the US government that they must have Greenland, and will own Greenland - one way or another - I don't think anyone should believe that this goal was abandoned without explanation.This article in today's 'i' newspaper (UK) is interesting. I've seen it suggested elsewhere that the troops in Alaska seem unlikely for Minnesota 'peacekeeping' and it seems the Danes are still not entirely convinced the threat of invasion has been removed. It's a long article. I hope it's accessible but include a short extract below.
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Navy Seals and Arctic paratroopers — why Trump's invasion threat was very real
The US has gathered intelligence about Greenland's defences and prepared elite troops, experts warn, as fears remain that the US could still strikeinews.co.uk
Navy Seals and Arctic paratroopers — why Trump's invasion threat was very real
BIG READ The US has gathered intelligence about Greenland's defences and prepared elite troops, experts warn, as fears remain that the US could still strike
Security analysts have been concerned that the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division could be used to seize the Danish territory
Rob Hastings
Special Projects Editor
January 23, 2026 6:00 am (Updated 10:00 am)
A few days ago, the US Department of War placed about 1,500 troops on standby for deployment at any moment.
Officially, this order was made in case Donald Trump invokes the Insurrection Act and sends the US military into the city of Minneapolis. The personnel would be ready to stop activists from disrupting raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), following the fatal shooting of Renee Good by an agent, two insiders told American media outlets.
Yet the choice of unit being put on alert was unusual: paratroopers stationed in Alaska, trained to fight in the very coldest conditions. They’re nicknamed the Arctic Angels. Normally, they work with a different kind of ice.
There have been fears in Denmark that these commandos from the US Army’s 11th Airborne Division are not intended for an operation against American protesters. Instead, could they have been preparing to invade the Danish territory of Greenland?
Hans Tino Hansen, founder of the Copenhagen-based firm Risk Intelligence, which analyses global security dangers, believes the threat of invasion was real – and still is.
He was alarmed when he heard the news about the 11th Airborne. “Why would you use US Army forces from Alaska in Minnesota?” he asks. Responding to domestic emergencies is the US National Guard’s job, and there are far closer units to choose from.
The 11th Airborne Division was established in 2022, when its personnel were told their mission was to “not only operate in extreme cold weather and mountainous terrain, but to build and demonstrate mastery of it”.
The division’s recent exercises also concern Hansen. He has heard unconfirmed reports that “they have been training to take an airport in an Arctic country during the last year”. Besides Greenland, he notes, there are few other places in the world where those skills would be needed.
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Given that Trump's extraordinary remarks about NATO countries not fighting on the front line were made in the context of the US allegedly being unable to rely on help from allies, I hope this piece of fact-checking by the BBC will not be seen as irrelevant.
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Most troops killed in Afghanistan were American - but Nato allies suffered significant losses
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By Tamara Kovacevic and Rob England
Downing Street says comments by US President Donald Trump - that Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan - were “wrong”.
Following the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the US invoked Nato’s Article 5 - which treats an attack on one member as an attack against them all - and launched military action in Afghanistan.
A total of 51 countries - both Nato and non-Nato , external- took part in the conflict that followed.
Among Nato nations that fought in Afghanistan, 24 suffered casualties according to iCasualities, external, a website that has tracked deaths in the war from 2001 to 2021, when the troops withdrew.
Over this period, the US suffered the highest number of deaths overall – 2,465 - followed by the UK with 457, external and Canada with 158.
However, if you express Nato deaths in Afghanistan in proportion to these countries’ populations, the US had 7.9 deaths per million, closely followed by Denmark with 7.7, the UK with 7.2 and Estonia with 6.7.
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Prince Harry says sacrifices by Nato troops in Afghanistan deserve 'respect' after Trump comments
Veterans and bereaved families call the comments "very disrespectful" and "soul-destroying", as Keir Starmer says they are "insulting and frankly appalling".www.bbc.co.uk
It looks like the US Government has retreated to presenting the invasion of a sovereign country as a joke filled with taunts and ridicule. That won't last long. Recall that the US is at war with Canada: Economic War, with the goal to destroy the economy and force Canada to join the US. That won't happen, but the war is ongoing. The aggression against Greenland will escalate again from a new angle that hopes to bypass NATO.I’m not sure if this has been shared here yet, but this should give non-Americans in this thread an idea of how things are going in the US right now. This happened at a Kennedy Center event attended by multiple members of Congress.
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Greenland American Flag cake served at Republican Kennedy Center event
‘It’s gonna be an international incident,’ one partygoer said before the cake was slicedwww.the-independent.com
Everything presented by the US government at Davos has to be fact-checked. There may not be much left once the propaganda is removed.Given that Trump's extraordinary remarks about NATO countries not fighting on the front line were made in the context of the US allegedly being unable to rely on help from allies, I hope this piece of fact-checking by the BBC will not be seen as irrelevant.
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Most troops killed in Afghanistan were American - but Nato allies suffered significant losses
15:20
By Tamara Kovacevic and Rob England
Downing Street says comments by US President Donald Trump - that Nato troops stayed "a little off the front lines" during the war in Afghanistan - were “wrong”.
Following the terror attacks of 11 September 2001, the US invoked Nato’s Article 5 - which treats an attack on one member as an attack against them all - and launched military action in Afghanistan.
A total of 51 countries - both Nato and non-Nato , external- took part in the conflict that followed.
Among Nato nations that fought in Afghanistan, 24 suffered casualties according to iCasualities, external, a website that has tracked deaths in the war from 2001 to 2021, when the troops withdrew.
Over this period, the US suffered the highest number of deaths overall – 2,465 - followed by the UK with 457, external and Canada with 158.
However, if you express Nato deaths in Afghanistan in proportion to these countries’ populations, the US had 7.9 deaths per million, closely followed by Denmark with 7.7, the UK with 7.2 and Estonia with 6.7.
(BBM)
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Prince Harry says sacrifices by Nato troops in Afghanistan deserve 'respect' after Trump comments
Veterans and bereaved families call the comments "very disrespectful" and "soul-destroying", as Keir Starmer says they are "insulting and frankly appalling".www.bbc.co.uk
I think those pesky numbers and realities would tax his brain. JMOFrom this link:
UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer says Donald Trump's remarks about British troops in Afghanistan are "insulting and frankly appalling"
"If I had misspoken in that way - or said those words - I would certainly apologise," he says
Agreed. I think, though, that your list of countries should include and highlight Denmark, in the circumstances and given its high casualty rate in proportion to its population.Everything presented by the US government at Davos has to be fact-checked. There may not be much left once the propaganda is removed.
"Trump questioned Europe's commitment to NATO. "We would be there 100 percent, but I'm not sure they would be there for us," Trump said, citing NATO Article 5, which states that "an attack on one is an attack on all."
However, Article 5 has only been invoked once, and the Europeans came to the aid of the United States. This happened after the 9/11 attacks.
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Canada, France, the United Kingdom, Italy, and Germany, among others, participated in military operations in Afghanistan. Belgium also provided F-16s, along with ground troops and instructors. The Belgian engagement in Afghanistan lasted a full 20 years. Several countries also conducted patrols within US airspace in the aftermath of 9/11.
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The claim that Europeans have shown no willingness to support the US in the past is untrue. There are no indications that Europe would hesitate militarily in the event of a foreign attack on a NATO ally."
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Heeft de VS Groenland gered in WO II? En bestaat Canada door de VS? Dit klopt (niet) van beweringen van Donald Trump | VRT NWS Nieuws
"De Verenigde Staten hebben Groenland gered tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog", "Canada bestaat door de VS" en "de NAVO zou ons waarschijnlijk niet te hulp schieten". Het zijn 3 uitspraken van Donald Trump tijdens zijn toespraak op het Wereld Economisch Forum in Davos, maar kloppen ze ook? Tijd...www.vrt.be
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