Found Deceased UT-5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley Found Deceased (UNCLE ARRESTED) #4

[Bugurl747]

What a class act!

Logan City Police Department sends out a thank you to all those that helped with bringing Lizzy home.

In this high quality 7 minute video, 4 key players break down their role, personal account, and send out a heartfelt thank you.

The video is on the Logan City Police Department FB page.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2388233978076314

MOO

 

[littlegreen]

Little Lizzie was asleep in her bed and taken by a monster. This has to be one of the most horrifying cases I’ve followed, and I’ve followed a lot. Senseless, horrific, a complete betrayal, shock, disgust, the worst.


I believe there is a special place in heaven for little Lizzie. We can never fully comprehend this tragedy, Rest In Peace little love.

This was an unfathomably horrific case. I agree that it is the most harrowing I’ve followed. It is just absolutely senseless.

Praying and praying for little Lizzy.

 

[moonlessnight]

the charging docs make it quite clear what he did, don't they? and it is quite horrific and everything we expected and worse. I am confused when posters aren't sure about SA. It's all in the charging docs/probable cause affidavit.

Quite honestly I believe he’s a monster unlike one we’ve seen. The sexualized comments he made about the couple before he did his thing proves (to me) that’s on his mind a lot. It’s scary to even think that someone like this was out there like a ticking time bomb. How many more are? :::shivers:::

 

[cdn6002]

You're a warrior. Welcome to websleuths!!

Thanks!

 

[moonlessnight]

nonrealized trauma - such a good point. this is probably why so many of us are here. we either narrowly escaped, or were victimized but didn't realize it at the time. and we are trying to make sure it doesn't happen again and that we can somehow recognize it and prevent it.

I'm sorry to hear about your experience of trauma.

Thanks to all for the welcoming environment. My fixation on this case made me connect the dots between my own CSA and my horrific realization that this little girl could have been me (based upon level of violence I experienced during abuse). And funnily it seems to aid me in partially forgiving my dissociative mother for checking out and binge reading murder mysteries. Her dad was my main abuser, so I imagine that solving one violent crime after another from her living room gave her some sense of mastery over her nonrealized trauma, and allowed a controlled window to feel she had one up on the bad guys. More to mull.

 

[angelainwi]

nonrealized trauma - such a good point. this is probably why so many of us are here. we either narrowly escaped, or were victimized but didn't realize it at the time. and we are trying to make sure it doesn't happen again and that we can somehow recognize it and prevent it.

I'm sorry to hear about your experience of trauma.

This is me for sure. I narrowly escaped being murdered when I was 16.

 

[Ebeccare]

Delete because it's late and my brain isn't working properly.

 

[Ebeccare]

As far as her body being being in good condition, I can see how that might be possible. It was probably in the 70s during the day and still gets pretty cold at night, in the 40s and 50s.

She was buried at least enough that the recovery team said they had to unearth her, so ground temps probably helped. She was found under mulch, and they had been only a few feet away turning over other small piles of mulch--they said they had been walking all over that area. If she had been partially exposed they would have seen her. I'm hoping the weather has helped with evidence gathering.

 

[Kiranerys]

the charging docs make it quite clear what he did, don't they? and it is quite horrific and everything we expected and worse. I am confused when posters aren't sure about SA. It's all in the charging docs/probable cause affidavit.

The charging docs are quite misleading,they list descriptions of acts that could all constitute a certain charge,so any one of those things,more than one of those things etc COULD have happened but not that they necessarily did.
I hope I explained that right,maybe someone like @gitana1 can say it better?
I think now they have done the autopsy they may adjust the charge sheet accordingly?

 

[Seattle1]

the charging docs make it quite clear what he did, don't they? and it is quite horrific and everything we expected and worse. I am confused when posters aren't sure about SA. It's all in the charging docs/probable cause affidavit.

The charging docs are quite misleading,they list descriptions of acts that could all constitute a certain charge,so any one of those things,more than one of those things etc COULD have happened but not that they necessarily did.
I hope I explained that right,maybe someone like @gitana1 can say it better?
I think now they have done the autopsy they may adjust the charge sheet accordingly?

It's always easier to amend the docs to add charges. I don't recall ever hearing of charges retracted from charging docs other than reduced during a plea. I believe investigators found DNA on the skirt and/or buried clothing that resulted in the SA charge.

AW is a brutal baby killer, and for that I'm pleased he will never see freedom. MOO

 

[kgreg2529]

It's always easier to amend the docs to add charges. I don't recall ever hearing of charges retracted from charging docs other than reduced during a plea. I believe investigators found DNA on the skirt and/or buried clothing that resulted in the SA charge.

AW is a brutal baby killer, and for that I'm pleased he will never see freedom. MOO

He has a SA charge now? Ah I can’t keep. Maybe I missed it when I read the criminal complaint? Is that where the charge is?

 

[TTF14]

It's always easier to amend the docs to add charges. I don't recall ever hearing of charges retracted from charging docs other than reduced during a plea. I believe investigators found DNA on the skirt and/or buried clothing that resulted in the SA charge.

AW is a brutal baby killer, and for that I'm pleased he will never see freedom. MOO

Where's the SA charge?

 

[ClaireNC]

the charging docs make it quite clear what he did, don't they? and it is quite horrific and everything we expected and worse. I am confused when posters aren't sure about SA. It's all in the charging docs/probable cause affidavit.

The charging docs are quite misleading,they list descriptions of acts that could all constitute a certain charge,so any one of those things,more than one of those things etc COULD have happened but not that they necessarily did.
I hope I explained that right,maybe someone like @gitana1 can say it better?
I think now they have done the autopsy they may adjust the charge sheet accordingly?

BBM. You’re correct Kiranerys. The charging documents do not specifically say he sexually assaulted her. The top part of the affidavit just lists the legal reasons why anyone would be charged with aggravated murder. In this case just the fact that she was under the age of 14 constitutes Criminal Homicide - Aggravated Murder.

If they had evidence of SA, there would be an additional charge(s) of sexual assault.

The second part of the document under Probable Cause Statement lists the evidence they had at that point to justify the charges specifically against AW. There is nothing there that suggests SA. (At the time that document was written.). Additional charges may be made against him.

http://kslnewsradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/WHIPPLE-PC.pdf

 

[ClaireNC]

He has a SA charge now? Ah I can’t keep. Maybe I missed it when I read the criminal complaint? Is that where the charge is?

No he has not been charged with sexual assault, yet.

 

[TTF14]

BBM. You’re correct Kiranerys. The charging documents do not specifically say he sexually assaulted her. The top part of the affidavit just lists the legal reasons why anyone would be charged with aggravated murder. In this case just the fact that she was under the age of 14 constitutes Criminal Homicide - Aggravated Murder.

If they had evidence of SA, there would be an additional charge(s) of sexual assault.

The second part of the document under Probable Cause Statement lists the evidence they had at that point to justify the charges specifically against AW. There is nothing there that suggests SA. (At the time that document was written.). This does not mean additional charges won’t be added.

http://kslnewsradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/WHIPPLE-PC.pdf

The charges were brought before the body was found/autopsy done, so I would imagine charges will be added.

 

[melodyl]

I don't think the mother is to blame. He was her brother who, most likely never did anything sketchy regarding the children, so how could she really expect this outcome? There are many people with substance abuse problems and/or mental health issues that are functional and generally safe in family settings. This saddens me, because she was obviously trying to be supportive of her brother. He was in her home, drinking and playing video games in a safe environment, he wasn't out on the streets doing God knows what with God knows who. And Lizzy was safe too, in her bed. The family had no reason to believe he would do something like this. Her mother didn't put Lizzy in a dangerous sittuation. Nothing can excuse what he did. He knows right from wrong. I feel very sorry for her poor mother.

Same. I haven't stopped thinking about what her mom is going through, knowing that it was her own brother, who she loved & I'm sure Lizzy loved him too. I don't know how you get past something like that. She will blame herself forever, even though she did nothing wrong.

 

[Tealgrove]

I want to say that this is one of the saddest cases I've followed and although it is horrific, there have been several in the last month, as well as in the recent past, that are just as sad and horrific. AJ, Maleah, Noah, Lucas, Sherrin, I could keep going on and on. The level of violence visited upon these children is horrific.

And here's the thing; Lizzy was not in the wrong place at the wrong time. I know we say that all the time, and I catch myself saying it too. Lizzy was where she was supposed to be. Lizzy was at home, asleep in her bed when evil came calling. AW was the guy in the wrong place. I have to keep reminding myself of this. The person in the wrong place was AW.

I'm just thinking out loud this morning because it seems that child abuse at this level is becoming more and more commonplace. How many times do we click onto a thread about a missing child and we collectively hold our breath because WE KNOW what's coming? We've seen it before and we are going to see it again. Children being thrown away in garbage bags, and hidden under debris in a backyard like they are nothing. They're disposable. They're trash - they're garbage. It's positively sickening to me.

I'm from Canada and we are not immune to this. It happens here too. I'm sure it's happening everywhere.

Lizzy has hit hard. She was where she was supposed to be. She was tucked into bed and should have been safe.

This has been a hard couple of months here at WS. Very hard on kids.

I'm not sure justice is the right word I'm seeking today. I'm not sure that any punishment is justice for a dead child.

This is all MOO. I'm going to go and have my coffee now and try not to think about this too much today.

My heart is breaking for Lizzy and all the children we've lost recently.

 

[kgreg2529]

BBM. You’re correct Kiranerys. The charging documents do not specifically say he sexually assaulted her. The top part of the affidavit just lists the legal reasons why anyone would be charged with aggravated murder. In this case just the fact that she was under the age of 14 constitutes Criminal Homicide - Aggravated Murder.

If they had evidence of SA, there would be an additional charge(s) of sexual assault.

The second part of the document under Probable Cause Statement lists the evidence they had at that point to justify the charges specifically against AW. There is nothing there that suggests SA. (At the time that document was written.). This does not mean additional charges won’t be added.

http://kslnewsradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/WHIPPLE-PC.pdf

Okay, yeah, that’s what I thought. Just covers a lot of ground.

 

[ClaireNC]

The charges were brought before the body was found/autopsy done, so I would imagine charges will be added.

I mentioned that at the bottom of my post. I suspect we’ll see additional charges, but as of right now he has not been charged with SA. People are misinterpreting the Probable Cause Statement of current charges.

 

[Seattle1]

Where's the SA charge?

Count 1, paragraph (d), of AW probable cause document.

We need to wait for AW advisement when formal charges will be be delivered.