UT - Jessica Lyman, 44, and son, Eli Painter, 8, died from shooting in their home, Saratoga Springs, March 28, 2025

[ChatteringBirds]

My heart goes out to their family, facing this tragedy. It is not yet clear what happened. Hopefully there will be a break in the case soon.

Mother dies after Saratoga Springs shooting that killed 8-year-old son

A Saratoga Springs mother who was critically injured in a shooting that killed her 8-year-old son has died.

kutv.com

Lyman's 17-year-old daughter called 911 emergency dispatchers after finding her mother and half-brother... Lyman's 15-year-old son was also found in a bedroom at the home. The teen was not injured...

Currently no suspect identified. Causes of death are not yet confirmed. Eli died at home from the shooting on March 28th. Jessica died later at a hospital.

Mother found shot alongside 8-year-son inside Saratoga Springs home has died, police say

A woman who was critically injured from an apparent gunshot next to her 8-year-old son inside their Saratoga Springs home last week has died, the Saratoga Springs Police Department confirmed Thursday morning. Police said Jessica Lyman, 44, and her 8-year-old son, Eli Painter, were discovered...

www.heraldextra.com

There are some nice descriptions of the victims in this article.

Mother of 8-year-old boy shot and killed in Saratoga Springs has also died

The mother of an 8-year-old boy who was shot and killed in their Saratoga Springs townhome last week has also died of her injuries.

www.ksl.com

 

[Warwick7]

'Murders are seldom if ever random': Ex-detective on Saratoga Springs mother, son killings

A former detective said officers with the Saratoga Springs Police Department are likely focused on "emotional connections" between the mother and son killed in

kjzz.com

 

[Aurora90]

Jessica’s obituary Obituary for Jessica Orton Lyman at Wing Mortuary

 

[Aurora90]

Eli’s obituary https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/name/eli-fox-painter-obituary?id=58048728

 

[bluestsocks]

I just saw this covered by Law and Crime, although it wasn’t particularly illuminating. What a horrible story. Hopefully there will be some movement of some kind soon. It certainly doesn’t feel like a random crime.

 

[Ssschu]

A neighbor who lives several doors from the Saratoga Springs home where Jessica Lyman and her young son Eli Painter were shot said his family's security camera video showed more than one person outside the house in the morning darkness of March 28 — hours before the two were found.

Jayden Bradley said he viewed the images and gave them to police.

”We saw four shadow figures walking up the driveway, and up to the car, and three of them went around the front of the car, and one opened the driver's side door, and the car lit up," Bradley said. "Then the other three went around the front of the house, and the camera stopped rolling."

Four 'figures' reported near home of Saratoga Springs double murder

A neighbor who lives several doors from the Saratoga Springs home where Jessica Lyman and her young son Eli Painter were shot, said his family's security camera

kutv.com

 

[*LD*]

Why can't LE view the ring footage from Jessica's doorbell camera? Ring is refusing to hand it over but why can't they watch it from the phone of the person who set up the ring account?

 

[Bounceycat]

'No further information' provided in homicides of Saratoga Springs mom, 8-year-old

There have been no suspects arrested, no leads made public, and no answers to given to the public exactly two months after the homicide of a Utah County woman a

kutv.com

May 28, 2025

Assistant Chief Bill Robertson released a statement Wednesday saying there was nothing new to pass along to the public.

“Due to the sensitive nature of this case and its ongoing status, no further information can be released to the public or media at this time,” he said.

 

[Bounceycat]

Family 'shattered' but hopes for justice in Saratoga Springs mother-son murders

Two months since Jessica Lyman and her eight-year-old son Eli Painter were shot and killed in their Saratoga Springs home, loved ones are sharing grief but also

kjzz.com

May 30, 2025

A neighbor said about a year ago he saw police at the home in the middle of the night.

"I didn't care at the time," said Skyler Norton. "Obviously, now it's piqued my interest."

KUTV asked Saratoga Springs Police if officers had responded to the home then, and if so, why, but as of this writing, had not received a reply.

As for the murder investigation, two neighbors said they would like to hear more from police.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

It's difficult to tell if an outside party entered the home and murdered them or if this is a domestic tragedy, IMO.

 

[CHEL]

New information about murder of woman, 8-year-old in Saratoga Springs unsealed

More information about what was discovered at the scene of a double-homicide in Saratoga Springs has been revealed after search warrants were unsealed today.

www.abc4.com

 

[Bounceycat]

New information about murder of woman, 8-year-old in Saratoga Springs unsealed

More information about what was discovered at the scene of a double-homicide in Saratoga Springs has been revealed after search warrants were unsealed today.

www.abc4.com

Sounds like this kid and the GA girl arrested today are two disgusting peas in a pod. JMO.

 

[mickey2942]

New information about murder of woman, 8-year-old in Saratoga Springs unsealed

More information about what was discovered at the scene of a double-homicide in Saratoga Springs has been revealed after search warrants were unsealed today.

www.abc4.com

Wow. Sad. Domestic violence. It is so hard for people who have teens who are absolutely out of control. Rich folks can send their "problem" away to boarding school. Poor folks, really have no resources. Even middle class, it is so hard to find placement, unless the teen had been violent before, and reported.

Sounds like that may have happened, but it is hard to press charges against your child. People usually go through 20 years or so, before they get there.

 

[Seattle1]

Unsealed warrants reveal details in murder of Saratoga Springs woman, 8-year-old son

Newly unsealed search warrants in the March double homicide of a mother and her young son reveal new details — and references the woman’s 15-year-old son.Jessic

kutv.com

7/7/25

 

[Seattle1]

Possibly matching mask found in home of Saratoga Springs double-murder, search warrant states

A search warrant connected to the shooting deaths of a Saratoga Springs woman and her 8-year-old son reveals evidence that was found when police searched the home months ago.

www.fox13now.com

7/8/25

---Trigger Warning---- Unsealed Warrant Information at MSM link.

 

[Seattle1]

'This is a murder story': Warrants detail items, note found in home where mother, son were killed

A recently unsealed warrant provides new details into the death of a Saratoga Springs mother and her son.

ksltv.com

7/8/25

While police talked to the 15-year-old boy, he said that he’d been in his room taking a nap and didn’t hear anything. An officer asked him if there were weapons in the home, and the boy said he wasn’t aware of any “guns” in the home, the warrant states.

“At that point, Noah had not been told by EMS or police officers that the incident involved a gun or gunshot wounds,” police wrote in the warrant.

Lyman’s daughter and the 15-year-old brother were interviewed at a Children’s Justice Center, where the boy said he had been up late the previous night using his cellphone.

No arrests...

 

[Ssschu]

'This is a murder story': Warrants detail items, note found in home where mother, son were killed

A recently unsealed warrant provides new details into the death of a Saratoga Springs mother and her son.

ksltv.com

7/8/25

While police talked to the 15-year-old boy, he said that he’d been in his room taking a nap and didn’t hear anything. An officer asked him if there were weapons in the home, and the boy said he wasn’t aware of any “guns” in the home, the warrant states.

“At that point, Noah had not been told by EMS or police officers that the incident involved a gun or gunshot wounds,” police wrote in the warrant.

Lyman’s daughter and the 15-year-old brother were interviewed at a Children’s Justice Center, where the boy said he had been up late the previous night using his cellphone.

No arrests...

I am absolutely stunned there has not been an arrest. This is shaping up to be a truly depraved crime.

 

[vls12345]

I am absolutely stunned there has not been an arrest. This is shaping up to be a truly depraved crime.

Agree. Where has the teen been since the murders happened? Was he staying with his other parent? Extended family? A friend? Where is he now?

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Unsealed warrants reveal details in murder of Saratoga Springs woman, 8-year-old son

Newly unsealed search warrants in the March double homicide of a mother and her young son reveal new details — and references the woman’s 15-year-old son.Jessic

kutv.com

7/7/25

How horrific. These articles indicate a very troubled teen living in that house. It says a BB Gun was found in his bedroom, along with an empty beer can and notes referencing things like “serology,” “DNA,” and “firearm testing, and “this is a murder story.”
Jessica's cell phone showed text messages from him like, "do you know how insignificant you really are to my life?” And there is evidence a mask was used and a SA occurred. Let's hope for the full truth and real justice here.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Agree. Where has the teen been since the murders happened? Was he staying with his other parent? Extended family? A friend? Where is he now?

That’s what’s concerning. His sister (the 17 year old) and him share the same father, so if he is with his dad then he’s most likely also with his sister… I can only imagine that’s a recipe for disaster.

Maybe he’s in a mental institution? Either way, where he needs to be is behind bars. I can’t believe an arrest hasn’t been made especially given the evidence.