<modsnip - quoted post was snipped> The FBI is not releasing what they know or do not know and they are not closing the case because it is not solved.If the FBI believed she just fell overboard, they wouldn't still be investigating her case.
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I don't think there's a single person here who doesn't want the FBI to make a breakthrough on the case and solve it. I also don't think there's a single person here who would get upset if their theory as to what happened to Amy is proven wrong.If the FBI believed she just fell overboard, they wouldn't still be investigating her case.
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There's no concrete signs of foul play in Amy's case, either, and the FBI is still supposedly actively investigating it. There was an alleged sighting of Rebecca Coriam about a year after she went missing, too.The Rebecca Coriam case would absolutely not be an FBI case if she was an American; they might have assisted in the beginning, but there really are no concrete signs of foul play in her case that would warrant them taking over the investigation. I don't think you understand how the FBI operates when it comes to missing persons cases and taking over investigations. The FBI does not investigate just ''any case''; that's not how they operate. The FBI even rejected the Jennifer Kesse case when they took a look at it in 2011, because in spite of the fact she was likely abducted, there is no evidence a federal crime was committed, aka, being taken across state lines, held against her will, carjacking, etc.
The FBI closed the George Smith case in 2015, most likely because they knew they weren't going to be able to bring charges against the people who likely killed him. The United States and Russia do not have an extradition treaty.
Yes she was supposedly drugged then put in a container and taken off the ship. She was seenWell I believe she was taken as the boat had docked so it’s a extremely odd she didn’t wash up and nobody saw her go over. Then add in the weird behavior from some on board.
It’s extremely unlucky to fall overboard as well so add all that in I think she was taken and killed.
I don’t remember reading anywhere that she was drugged, put in a shipping container and taken off the ship.Yes she was supposedly drugged then put in a container and taken off the ship. She was seen
by a taxi driver though she was asked for assistance to find a phone. why? Now I think she realised that she was in a situation hence being drugged and tried to escape though she wasn’t lucid enough
It’s always been completely unsubstantiated speculation.I don’t remember reading anywhere that she was drugged, put in a shipping container and taken off the ship.
DO you think she fell overboard and was drowned??And the kidnapping was just a coverup?? There have been reported sightings of her.The FBI does not have the agenda you think they do. They do not start with the premise that something nefarious happened and then request information to support that hypothesis. If the FBI had reliable evidence she was trafficked, her family would know that by now.
There is no body, alive or deceased. The FBI is seeking evidence to find out what happened. That could be a witness who saw something fall, someone taken off the ship, etc., anything at all. There is simply no reliable evidence to give her family closure.
You believe there is evidence of a kidnapping, I believe there is no reliable evidence of anything, so a simpler explanation is more likely. The FBI is seeking evidence for any and all scenarios. We all want answers but will not get them, in my opinion.
Unreliable and unverified in my opinion.DO you think she fell overboard and was drowned??And the kidnapping was just a coverup?? There have been reported sightings of her.
Hi Tower, just curious if you were ever able to read the original thread for Amy that is no longer available here? Many people on this thread do remember following and participating in that thread. There was a wealth of very convincing information contained therein. It's something that you just can't "un-know" if you know what I mean. I'll add that any of us can read anything put forward here and declare it unreliable and unverified but it doesn't mean that it is false. We have seen that happen here many times over.Unreliable and unverified in my opinion.
NODO you think she fell overboard and was drowned??And the kidnapping was just a coverup?? There have been reported sightings of her.
I remember reading it. Why such questionability? It was reported.It’s always been completely unsubstantiated speculation.
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It’s questionable because the so called sightings lack validity and reliability. IMO traffickers would not target a young woman holidaying with family. I believe this was a death that occurred on that ship, whether accidental or intentional. But that’s just my opinion.I remember reading it. Why such questionability? It was reported.
We all have to agree to disagree as the validity and reliability. Just a sidenote and my opinion only, but I think when people ask for a "why" from someone they are really asking for an explanation exactly why it lacks those things, in your opinion. It can make for some good discussion instead of cutting it off bluntly.It’s questionable because the so called sightings lack validity and reliability. IMO traffickers would not target a young woman holidaying with family. I believe this was a death that occurred on that ship, whether accidental or intentional. But that’s just my opinion.
Yes I know it has been reported.I remember reading it. Why such questionability? It was reported.
I’ve read everything here and from many other sources essentially from day one. I have a close personal connection to certain aspects of her name, so from the initial media reports of the story, I have been interested and read everything I could. But I’m not a fan of an unsolvable missing persons case, it’s sad for the family and none of us will ever have answers. I believe this case is unsolvable.Hi Tower, just curious if you were ever able to read the original thread for Amy that is no longer available here? Many people on this thread do remember following and participating in that thread. There was a wealth of very convincing information contained therein. It's something that you just can't "un-know" if you know what I mean. I'll add that any of us can read anything put forward here and declare it unreliable and unverified but it doesn't mean that it is false. We have seen that happen here many times over.
Railings are confirmed upthread to be much lower in 1998. The international regulations required between 34 and 38 inches at that time, but the exact number is documented earlier in this thread somewhere.About the accidental overboard theory:
Like Amy, I'm a 5'6" woman with a longish torso. I have measured various objects around my house to see if I could fathom accidentally tumbling over the side of a railing at that height-- even if I was unsteady, drunk, and /or leaning over to vomit.
The cruise line currently mandates balcony railings be a height of 42". This comes up to my lower ribs. I'm not tumbling over that height without someone's help, or catapulting myself.
But maybe the railings were lower in 1998. However, even at 36" which comes to just below my navel, I can't imagine accidentally "falling over" the side of my kitchen island which is 36". Just not gonna happen even if I'm vomiting over the side. I'd have to climb up onto a 36" railing to go over the edge.
And railings lower than 36" do not seem plausible to me. My money is that they were 42" (lower rib level for Amy), and no lower than 38".
How do we know Amy left her sandals and all her shoes in the cabin/room? Does anyone have a link to the family stating this? Just making sure it's confirmed and not something I read that's inaccurate.
If she indeed left that room without her shoes, it could mean one of three things:
1. overboard
2. she exited the front door barefoot intentionally (that hallway carpet is probably yucky but maybe she didn't mind?)
3. she exited the front door barefoot unintentionally (she absent-mindedly walked out having been lounging barefoot on the balcony, only to realized she'd forgotten to put on sandals [I could see myself doing this]. But she didn't want to wake her family by opening the front door again so just left without shoes.)