VA - Couple & two teens found murdered, Farmville, 15 Sept 2009 #2

[tapu]

What? Never mind.

 

[dangrsmind]

What? Never mind.

Leilah Wendell.

 

[Nikolai]

Right. He wipes it off with his hands, washes his hands and face, and then it all sort of mushes down and soaks in over the next few days.

More plausible than your scenario: that he strips down to his skivs, runs the Maytag, and then puts those same clothes back on.



OH YEAH, BESIDES WHICH, MY WAY EXPLAINS THE SMELL

I dont know or much care for the scenario, whatever the clothing and bathing scenario was, he smelled like rotting bodies. And the witnesses who smelled him will make an impact during his quadruple capital murder trial.

 

[Nikolai]

I'm not convinced he was trying to evade discovery actually. Also this isn't the scenario I was thinking of exactly...

He knew he had no more time left hanging in the house so he fled. His likely plan was to get home so when the bodies were discovered he was at home in Cali. Im sure Sam knew in his mind there was no way he could get away with it, but that doesnt stop most from trying, thinking about going to prison is a very scary thought.

 

[tapu]

I dont know or much care for the scenario, whatever the clothing and bathing scenario was, he smelled like rotting bodies. And the witnesses who smelled him will make an impact during his quadruple capital murder trial.

Hmm... let me think about that.... Why do you think he would smell that strong of rotting bodies? Just from being around them? He would, like, carry the pheromones or whatever clear to where he wrecked a car, rode in cars, ate at a restaurant, and slept in an airport? Because I'm thinking he might have had actual DNA in the solid/once liquid form right there on those clothes. I guess it could be like lingering fabric softener scent, though, if he stood near the bodies close enough and for a long while...?

 

[dangrsmind]

I dont know or much care for the scenario, whatever the clothing and bathing scenario was, he smelled like rotting bodies. And the witnesses who smelled him will make an impact during his quadruple capital murder trial.

What was reported in the press was the he smelled bad not that he smelled like rotting bodies. Not one of the people that came into contact with him used that terminology. Just to keep you honest here....

Actually I think I may have been the first person here to suggest that this odor might be the smell of death which is very pervasive and notable. Not a smell you easily forget, but notably few people have any experience with it in our society.

 

[dangrsmind]

He knew he had no more time left hanging in the house so he fled. His likely plan was to get home so when the bodies were discovered he was at home in Cali. Im sure Sam knew in his mind there was no way he could get away with it, but that doesnt stop most from trying, thinking about going to prison is a very scary thought.

Why didn't he try to leave earlier? He had access to cash via his ATM card and could also have flown standby.

When he stole the father's car, he didn't drive to the airport but some place called Poor House Road. If you check it out the road goes nowhere and definitely not to the airport.

Last but not least...

Why did he call the police himself if he was trying to escape detection?

 

[tapu]

What was reported in the press was the he smelled bad not that he smelled like rotting bodies. Not one of the people that came into contact with him used that terminology. Just to keep you honest here....

Actually I think I may have been the first person here to suggest that this odor might be the smell of death which is very pervasive and notable. Not a smell you easily forget, but notably few people have any experience with it in our society.

And witnesses described it as "nothing they had ever smelled before."

 

[dangrsmind]

Hmm... let me think about that.... Why do you think he would smell that strong of rotting bodies? Just from being around them? He would, like, carry the pheromones or whatever clear to where he wrecked a car, rode in cars, ate at a restaurant, and slept in an airport? Because I'm thinking he might have had actual DNA in the solid/once liquid form right there on those clothes. I guess it could be like lingering fabric softener scent, though, if he stood near the bodies close enough and for a long while...?

The odor of dead bodies is strong. Back when I used to work in the lab, I would have to bring the dead rats down to the Dead Animal Room. I would often think I could smell it later that day even at night after I showered.

 

[tapu]

Why didn't he try to leave earlier? He had access to cash via his ATM card and could also have flown standby.

When he stole the father's car, he didn't drive to the airport but some place called Poor House Road. If you check it out the road goes nowhere and definitely not to the airport.

Last but not least...

Why did he call the police himself if he was trying to escape detection?

His cash was limited apparently, as he didn't have the money to move his flight up.

He got lost trying to get to the airport.

He had first one plan (it was someone else), and then another (get on that plane).

 

[dangrsmind]

And witnesses described it as "nothing they had ever smelled before."

Which is why I suggested this idea of the smell of death in the first place. Go back to the first topic and review what I said then. At the time I was ridiculed for the baseless speculation if I recall correctly.

Now my speculation has become "fact".

 

[Nikolai]

Hmm... let me think about that.... Why do you think he would smell that strong of rotting bodies? Just from being around them? He would, like, carry the pheromones or whatever clear to where he wrecked a car, rode in cars, ate at a restaurant, and slept in an airport? Because I'm thinking he might have had actual DNA in the solid/once liquid form right there on those clothes. I guess it could be like lingering fabric softener scent, though, if he stood near the bodies close enough and for a long while...?

You could be right. It wouldnt really shock me though either if he smelled like it just from being around them for as long as he was either, if the odor was very intense. His clothes, even maybe his hair. He smelled horrible and he was in that house with corpses that wreaked so its likely its something to do with them.

 

[dangrsmind]

His cash was limited apparently, as he didn't have the money to move his flight up.

He got lost trying to get to the airport.

He had first one plan (it was someone else), and then another (get on that plane).

1. Standby costs zero.

2. He doesn't know how to use Google Maps? He can't call the airport and ask directions? Poor House Road isn't even vaguely in the right direction if I recall correctly.

3. Possible and plausible.

 

[tapu]

The odor of dead bodies is strong. Back when I used to work in the lab, I would have to bring the dead rats down to the Dead Animal Room. I would often think I could smell it later that day even at night after I showered.

You "thought you could smell it." And you knew you had been around it. You had personally been with the dead bodies, had the scent directly from them go up your nose, and then still, later, you only thought you could smell it.

That's very different from what these people described.

But, I'm done. I concede that he probably just smelled so strong because he had trapped some air from the dead people in his fresh duds, and it never escaped when he was running around trying to get to the airport.

 

[tapu]

1. Standby costs zero.

Numerous reports said that's why he was waiting for the later flight.

2. He doesn't know how to use Google Maps? He can't call the airport and ask directions? Poor House Road isn't even vaguely in the right direction if I recall correctly.

If you recall correctly. And it's not like you've been there. You think that guy couldn't have gotten lost there? Okay....

3. Possible and plausible.
gee, thanks. you sure you don't want to argue?

......

 

[dangrsmind]

You "thought you could smell it." And you knew you had been around it. You had personally been with the dead bodies, had the scent directly from them go up your nose, and then still, later, you only thought you could smell it.

That's very different from what these people described.

But, I'm done. I concede that he probably just smelled so strong because he had trapped some air from the dead people in his fresh duds, and it never escaped when he was running around trying to get to the airport.

That's why I wrote it that way and used that wording.

Seriously though, if he is guilty, I won't be surprised to learn that he was not dressed during the murders or was naked with the bodies at sometime thereafter.

 

[tapu]

Which is why I suggested this idea of the smell of death in the first place. Go back to the first topic and review what I said then. At the time I was ridiculed for the baseless speculation if I recall correctly.

Now my speculation has become "fact".

No, it was just a "speculation" that was extremely elementary and so others have also arrived at it.

And dangersmind, enjoy you, dude, really, but I'm not going back to "review" what you said. Now straighten up.

 

[tapu]

That's why I wrote it that way and used that wording.

Seriously though, if he is guilty, I won't be surprised to learn that he was not dressed during the murders or was naked with the bodies at sometime thereafter.

Yes, I'm sure that's it. The very last thing that ever could have happened is that the clothes we see him in before and after, and that reeked enough to carry the smell strongly far from the origin, and that he was wearing as a guy who regularly did not shower, and sang about loving the smell on him, could have been on him all the time. No way is it going to come out that way, because that is preposterous.

 

[Nikolai]

Why didn't he try to leave earlier? He had access to cash via his ATM card and could also have flown standby.

When he stole the father's car, he didn't drive to the airport but some place called Poor House Road. If you check it out the road goes nowhere and definitely not to the airport.

Last but not least...

Why did he call the police himself if he was trying to escape detection?

Probably because he didnt think he needed to leave earlier, and he was strapped for cash. He probably thought he could make it in that house for the whole week. But once Mel's mother started looking for her daughter that plan quickly ended.

When he drove the car he didnt get to the airport, and he didnt know the area, and who really cares because where did he end up getting to and trying to get an early flight to? These points make no point.

I dont know why he called the police to check the basement. I know one reason he didnt call them though, to be caught, because if he wanted that it would have happened. Common sense buddy.

 

[Nikolai]

His cash was limited apparently, as he didn't have the money to move his flight up.

He got lost trying to get to the airport.

He had first one plan (it was someone else), and then another (get on that plane).

Im sorry but that makes far too much sense.