Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #5 *Arrest*

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  • #681
What does LE have to gain by withholding the name of the suspect?

It's the law. He's a juvenile and until he is charged as an adult juvenile proceedings are not public.

Note; the law doesn't apply to the media, IMHO, who choose not to reveal his name the same way the media chooses not to ID sexual assault victims. I don't think they're bound by law not to reveal his name. But they do allow his name to be revealed on their facebook pages by members of the public. So it's a grey area.
 
  • #682
What does LE have to gain by withholding the name of the suspect?

He is a Juvenile. He hasn't been formally charged yet. I'm sure we will learn much more tomorrow. IMO
 
  • #683
I think Jenise's parents felt a "false sense of security". Living in a small MHP and trusting of all the kids (and adults) residing there. I am sure they all went to school together and hung out during the summer, after school and on weekend. What is so sad, how many people really know their neighbors? Do people at the MHP sit outside, take walks through the park?

The real question is, does anyone ever really suspect the person they see nearly every day of being capable of what this person did to Jenise? It is the most horrific and vulgar thing you can do to another human being, and unless the suspect arrested has a history of being a major sketch bag (and many do not) no one ever thinks they're capable of it. I always think about this when the wife of a serial rapist or killer is interviewed. Of all the people that might have had an insight into the person's character you'd think they would have known, but sadly, they almost never do.
 
  • #684
I would imagine by the end of today, everybody is going to pretty much know who this guy is anyway. Those teenagers will spread it like wildfire on their various websites.

This story was too big to keep it quiet for very long. I saved his pictures to my computer, will post when the time is right.

Let's all pretend like we don't see it...........:nono::nono:
 
  • #685
The real question is, does anyone ever really suspect the person they see nearly every day of being capable of what this person did to Jenise? It is the most horrific and vulgar thing you can do to another human being, and unless the suspect arrested has a history of being a major sketch bag (and many do not) no one ever thinks they're capable of it. I always think about this when the wife of a serial rapist or killer is interviewed. Of all the people that might have had an insight into the person's character you'd think they would have known, but sadly, they almost never do.

That's an interesting topic - in my opinion, I think wives/lovers of serial killers do know. They just won't admit it to themselves. I had a boyfriend in college who, if i learned he had raped and killed a child I'd say I'm not totally surprised. There are other people who if I found out they had done that I'd say I absolutely don't believe it.
 
  • #686
It's the law. He's a juvenile and until he is charged as an adult juvenile proceedings are not public.

Note; the law doesn't apply to the media, IMHO, who choose not to reveal his name the same way the media chooses not to ID sexual assault victims. I don't think they're bound by law not to reveal his name. But they do allow his name to be revealed on their facebook pages by members of the public. So it's a grey area.

Thanks. I forgot that juvie records aren't public.
 
  • #687
I've tried hard not to say too much but it's really hard NOT to when we all know someone has been arrested and it was directly due to a forensic evidence match. Not to mention, the brutality of what was done to this poor little girl, and the rage it brings out in everyone. I suspect it's pretty common for those who know the arrested (not just in this case but in general) to be in complete denial and shock because the person THEY know, could never in a million years do something so horrific. Tragically, Jenise saw the side of that person no one else knew was there. :(

I really do hope this person is charged as an adult, and named publicly. I've read that he's scheduled to appear in KC district court tomorrow at 3pm, so I'm assuming we might learn more then? Not really sure how that works but as of right now he's being held in the KC juvenile jail. His case isn't on the court docket for Monday http://www.kitsapgov.com/sc/docket_page.htm but maybe that's because he's a juvenile. Either way, I'm sure there will be plenty of media (KING, KIRO, KOMO, FOX) in the courthouse building tomorrow afternoon to let us all know what happened in that courtroom.

Yes, me too. Then we'll be like stink on s***!
 
  • #688
That's an interesting topic - in my opinion, I think wives/lovers of serial killers do know. They just won't admit it to themselves. I had a boyfriend in college who, if i learned he had raped and killed a child I'd say I'm not totally surprised. There are other people who if I found out they had done that I'd say I absolutely don't believe it.

Oh I think in some cases they know *something*. They know he's got a creepy attitude about this, or a particular fetish toward that, something like that. I used to think "they know, they HAVE TO KNOW!" But I don't believe they do. I think people with this evil side to them figure out how to hide it really really well, from even the closest people to them. They have to, because they want to keep feeding it, and they can't do that if they get caught.
 
  • #689
Fair enough - we obviously have a different legal system in the UK. We have "Innocent until proven guilty", and alleged does have to be used if a case hasn't been proven.

The U.S. has the same system, derived directly from English jurisprudence. But we also enjoy freedom of association, freedom of speech, and freedom of opinion. The courts and the legal system are constrained, but not the individual, and press freedom is part of individual freedom.

Another concept people don't seem to fully understand is "innocent until proven guilty." It doesn't mean that a person who (for example) stabs another person to death is "innocent" of the crime until it's been proven in a court of law, in the sense that "he didn't do it." It means that he's presumed innocent within the legal system until his complicity has been properly adjudicated. No such presumption can change the actual facts. He either did it, or he didn't.
 
  • #690
This is going to be an open-and-shut kind of case. They have DNA evidence. Then they went into this person's home with a search warrant and likely extracted additional incriminating evidence.
 
  • #691
That's an interesting topic - in my opinion, I think wives/lovers of serial killers do know. They just won't admit it to themselves. I had a boyfriend in college who, if i learned he had raped and killed a child I'd say I'm not totally surprised. There are other people who if I found out they had done that I'd say I absolutely don't believe it.

Remember Ann Rule and Ted Bundy? I think she's still in denial.
 
  • #692
I remember the good old days when they would parade the perp out in front of the T.V. cameras and let him chat it up, answer questions, and incriminate the hell out of himself.

Case in point, Lee Harvey Oswald..............seemed to work out pretty good in his case.

Missing the good old days..............:thinking:
 
  • #693
When I was little there were the 2 small boys that use to roam the neighborhood in my city neighborhood up north.
The boys parents were drunks so they were outside a lot with no supervision. We would find them sun burnt in the summer, cold in the winter- etc.
My mom would always help them by feeding them and give them jackets and clothes.
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I read that Jenise would go around and eat at the homes of others. She had no set time to even be home to eat.
There is a line between trusting the environment and others when a child is outside the home- and being an absentee parent.
Did other parents in the trailer park allow the same freedom with their children? - as if being raised in a village and they all helped out?
Also in other cultures this is part of their parenting style - allowing a lot of freedom at a young age.
Could the parents nationality play a part on how they were raising Jenise?
Did they parent their other children the same way?
 
  • #694
I am the mother of five. Four daughters came first and then our youngest child is a boy. I cant say I raised them any differently. I know at times I smothered them by being overly protective. It was no different when it came to our son, which he turned out to be the easiest to raise, btw.:D I regret some of the hovering I did back then and have apologized to them since they are all grown now. They all know I was abused as a child by my own father on a daily basis from the age of 5 (that I can remember) until almost 16. Now that they are older they understand why I did the things the way I did when raising them.

It wasn't that I didn't trust them because all of them were really good trustworthy kids. I just didn't trust anyone else when I wasn't with them. In time I did learn to loosen up though and now I completely let them live their own lives without interference, and they are all happily married with children of their own, and have made great decisions as parents.

IMO

Hugs to you, Ocean! I understand. I was very protective of my daughter for similar reasons.
 
  • #695
I have one too.. he even went to the vigil...
 
  • #696
This is going to be an open-and-shut kind of case. They have DNA evidence. Then they went into this person's home with a search warrant and likely extracted additional incriminating evidence.

I hope you're right.
 
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Yeah for the great news this morning that an arrest has been made! LE did a super job on working this case and staying on top of it. My internet went out early last evening and was out all evening. Gave up and went to bed about 11 pm.

What horrible news for the accusers family. He surely will be charged as an adult. Perhaps waiting till the news settles to upgrade it so it won't cause more anger in the community.

On the same hand, what a relief for Jenice's family that he was caught! However, if he was a friend of the brother and family, the horror of knowing him would even be more damaging!
 
  • #700
Did other parents in the trailer park allow the same freedom with their children? - as if being raised in a village and they all helped out?
Could the parents nationality play a part on how they parented Janice?
Did they parent their other children the same way?

Q1: from all I have been told from those who live there, no. Most of the families there don't let their kids just roam for hours, especially not the little ones.
Q2: Entirely possible. I've known families that live on reservations and *some* of them do parent this way, while others don't. Although, this MHP isn't the reservation.
Q3: I'd love to answer that but I don't think I can, as per the rules here. Suffice it to say, some parents, parent the same way with all kids.
 
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