Was/is Shawn abusive toward Billie?

[katydid23]

Very good points why would Connie make the statements she did if they were not true?

Ima

Somebody could be afraid to spend the night at their home because of something they did. Let's say Shawn found out that day that Billie was cheating on him. That night he would be really angry, and she might have been afraid of him that night, because of her own behavior.

But Connie didnt say Billlie moved out because she was afraid. I think she went back home the next day. They had a dramatic and crazy relationship. They abused each other imo.

 

[txsvicki]

I think BD was afraid of SA only of what he might do if she left him. Otherwise, I think he may have been very manipulative with her money, sex life, social activity, and working. He was afraid of what she would do if he quit his job, allegedly and they both seemed to be very jealous of each other. It's too bad she didn't see all the red flags and do something about them. Just because he was treating her awesomely the past six months didn't mean that things were so great.

 

[tehcloser]

I don't think BJD would have a problem in the world lying to Connie, the deeper the drama the better, especially if she thought it was over between her and SA and she wanted CD back. She probably thought he would "rescue" her.

 

[gypsyblue]

billie wears the pants imo....sooooo... no...

 

[concernedmother]

If he didn't abuse her and she wasnt scared of him then was Connie fibbing when she spoke on BTH?

Why would Connie make those statements if they were not true? Would Billie have pretended to Connie to be scared? Would the 911 call be a grand scheme?

I dont think so, I dont think SA beat her or hit her. I think he tormented her mentally. Played with her head. I think he is doing it now.IMO.

I think the mentally abuse each other. I got that from the 911 calls.
I think the plea bargain talk and I kill rats was all to BD.

 

[chasing.halos]

He threatened her life didn't he?
IMO only I think Billie has every characteristic of an abused woman. Didn't leave him, denial, staunch defensiveness, making excuses...

 

[everyoneneedsavoice]

NO...i think they are both master manipulators and am leaning towards her being the abusive one.

 

[grandmaj]

I think BD is the one that controls the relationship. I do not think she is abused. If anything I'd say their relationship is based on the drama which we are hearing a small piece of now. BD is no pushover. In fact the way I have watched her obfuscate and try to manipulate this investigation if anything I think it is a mutually accepted part of the relationship on both parts to keep the other off balance.

 

[katydid23]

He threatened her life didn't he?
IMO only I think Billie has every characteristic of an abused woman. Didn't leave him, denial, staunch defensiveness, making excuses...

I don't know. Did he? Billie said so, but I am not sure how real his threats were, if he indeed made any.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I don't think there's physical abuse going either way with these two, but there's psychological abuse running rampart both ways.

 

[For The Kids]

If he didn't abuse her and she wasnt scared of him then was Connie fibbing when she spoke on BTH?

Why would Connie make those statements if they were not true? Would Billie have pretended to Connie to be scared? Would the 911 call be a grand scheme?

I dont think so, I dont think SA beat her or hit her. I think he tormented her mentally. Played with her head. I think he is doing it now.IMO.

My honest opinion - if anyones heads are being played with its DD;S and Clints. At the end of the day Billie is a grown woman who imo has interfered with the case of her missing daughter by continually changing her versions of what happened. As Mark K said...Billie is street smart and knows what shes doing.

 

[For The Kids]

Very good points why would Connie make the statements she did if they were not true?

Ima

Billie went to hers crying i thought? Yes Billie may have made the statements...the thing is though are they true?

 

[pms]

If he didn't abuse her and she wasnt scared of him then was Connie fibbing when she spoke on BTH?

Why would Connie make those statements if they were not true? Would Billie have pretended to Connie to be scared? Would the 911 call be a grand scheme?

I dont think so, I dont think SA beat her or hit her. I think he tormented her mentally. Played with her head. I think he is doing it now.IMO.

I don't think Connie was fibbing but I would believe Billie was lying.

The 911 calls were around the time that Shawn was cheating on Billie. She was not to happy about it either so I don't think during that time she would have said anything nice about him especially to Connie who is Clint's mother.

I do believe Billie and Shawn play head games with each other and they torment each other by cheating.
JMO

 

[For The Kids]

He threatened her life didn't he?
IMO only I think Billie has every characteristic of an abused woman. Didn't leave him, denial, staunch defensiveness, making excuses...

It may take time sure but..women will leave the abusive partner if it becames bad enough. In Billies case it was her house and she could have gotten a restraining order against him. She had no kids with him so really..she had no reason to stay with him IF she was being abused. I was with my husband..and divorced him in the end because i knew i would be dead otherwise. Several of my aunts were in abusive marriages ( two sisters married two brothers for starters) and they ended up in womens shelters. There is help out there and in Billies case she had family also..

Personally i think the staunch defensiveness is because she somehow was involved in whatever happened to Haleigh. I believe she sticks up for Shawn because shes scared he will go to the cops and implicate her in some way. As for not leaving him well..he was "awesome" and she loves him so..that explains it all really.

MOO

 

[chasing.halos]

I don't know. Did he? Billie said so, but I am not sure how real his threats were, if he indeed made any.

Shawn himself says he did. Said he threatened BD and DD but not HD.

 

[Tugela]

I don't think he is abusive in the traditional sense. IMO BD is the one who seems to be the dominant one in the relationship. I also thinks she thrives on drama, and that combination is what has resulted in what we know about their past relationship history. Her relationship with SA appears to be a replay of her relationship with CD. She gets involved with these submissive compliant men and then she plays games with them, that generates the drama in her life because they are too dim to understand what is going on.

 

[passionflower]

I do think there is some game playing, abusive to my mind, but I really think BD is the type and lives for chaos and likes it.
Take a lover filming her in a degrading way, but she thinks it is because he loves her and she likes the attention.
BD is very manipulating.
I hope I do not get in trouble but I think this is one of those toxic relationships that each person feeds on the other because they both are sociopaths......
Both like living on the edge and lying etc..JMO

 

[belimom]

Thing is though is most woman in abusive relationships don't leave and are scared to. As for she is complimenting I had wondered if her 180 on that was because he threatened her and told to start saying positive things or he'd kill her. Or just something threatening because before she was saying things against him like on Nancy Grace and everything.

I don't see one iota of evidence that BJD is afraid of SA or was in an abusive relationship. Not one iota. Nope.

 

[chasing.halos]

It may take time sure but..women will leave the abusive partner if it becames bad enough. In Billies case it was her house and she could have gotten a restraining order against him. She had no kids with him so really..she had no reason to stay with him IF she was being abused. I was with my husband..and divorced him in the end because i knew i would be dead otherwise. Several of my aunts were in abusive marriages ( two sisters married two brothers for starters) and they ended up in womens shelters. There is help out there and in Billies case she had family also..

Personally i think the staunch defensiveness is because she somehow was involved in whatever happened to Haleigh. I believe she sticks up for Shawn because shes scared he will go to the cops and implicate her in some way. As for not leaving him well..he was "awesome" and she loves him so..that explains it all really.

MOO

I understand and can respect your opinion but I totally disagree. I am not a BD fan either and feel that the relationship was toxic and she had/has a role in the toxicity.
I will now step away from this thread. As a survivor, it hits too close to home for me.

 

[yllek]

Based on all of the interviews, statements, and LE evidence released, I do not believe that Billie was abused by Shawn. I think Billie met her dream boy the day she met Shawn Adkins. Shawn, imo, is everything that Clint appears not to be (aggressive, controlling, seeking the camera and spotlight, unfaithful..). Billie found herself in Shawn Adkins, imo. Billie found her soul mate.

I don't think Billie "still loves" Shawn Adkins in spite of who he is, but rather because of who he is... JMO.