Was Joe involved?

[trigger]

On HLN Jean Casarez says...
On cousin Joe-No probable cause..No evidence. He has not been arrested.Not a poi. Have statements from him. Still haven't arrested him..

 

[trigger]

Does it make sense to ANYONE to dump a body and bring someone along for the ride by gunpoint? I'm not understanding things here....

Makes no sense to me either...

 

[Lanie]

Does it make sense to ANYONE to dump a body and bring someone along for the ride by gunpoint? I'm not understanding things here....

Same here. First of all, why would he need help dumping Haleigh's body? It's not like she weighed 300 lbs. Then, after forcing someone to help against their will at gunpoint, why not kill them, too? Oh, no, it makes so much more sense to leave the state the very next day and GO BACK HOME, where everyone knows where you live and you are no longer a threat. If this is true, these people are way too stupid not to have been caught and locked up within a week of the crime, MOO.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Same here. First of all, why would he need help dumping Haleigh's body? It's not like she weighed 300 lbs. Then, after forcing someone to help against their will at gunpoint, why not kill them, too? Oh, no, it makes so much more sense to leave the state the very next day and GO BACK HOME, where everyone knows where you live and you are no longer a threat. If this is true, these people are way too stupid not to have been caught and locked up within a week of the crime, MOO.

I don't think he needed help lifting Haleigh's body but he probably did need a vehicle and the blocks and rope. If he forced Tommy to help him then he could threaten him that if he told anyone he would be arrested too since he helped dispose of Haleigh's body.

I think he made Tommy go to the dock so that he could silence Misty and Tommy who knew he had killed Haleigh.

IMO

 

[Kimster]

Bumping up

 

[pferrin]

iI dont think Joe did this crime..the folks that I think know what actually happened to Haleigh are Ron, Misty, tommy lindsy. timmy chelsea teresa ggs, and maybe a few other kin folks. JMHO if Joe had killed Haleigh I think most of the folks I listed would have already killed Joe.

 

[cyberborg]

To me, if Joe was in the MH and took HaLeigh out -- as alleged -- I would expect LE to find fingerprints and DNA and maybe even hairs.

LE stated that they did not consider this crime a stranger abduction. While Joe is not a stranger he would have surely become a POI immediately given that he was in the area such a short time and went out of State the day afterwards, as planned.

To me, that rules out Joe since LE seem to think the close family of HaLeigh are/were involved and while Misty and ToC might have been scared of Joe that day --- Misty was confident enough to hang posters with Joe that same day AND it has been over 12 months of hassle and grief they have suffered.

Joe has been floated more as a convenient scapegoat at times, not as THE perp. If they were so scared of Joe why did they not seek LE protection when they first named him? They have been confident enough to point to him when under heat.

There are many reasons why Joe is not involved or simply helped them out after the fact.

 

[aoibhinn]

Proof again that they're ALL in on the cover-up. At the 231 mark Lindsey says that ,they have to almost tell her to watch what she says or something along those lines. I think that she adds ALMOST as an after thought as she was speaking as she didn't want to come right out and say: That they had to tell Misty what to say. The word ALMOST was Lindsey in the CYA mode. :banghead:

Thanks for posting the video, Dr. Fessel, I hadn't seen it.

JT, I feel have to respectfully disagree here. In fact, what Lindsy says about their locations in bed that night is what I've thought all along. Lindsy says they almost have to tell Misty to watch what she says because her words get twisted. I think she genuinely means it in this way.

I'm really on the fence as to who I think is responsible. At the end of the day, Misty is a 17 year old girl, who made those initial statements after not having slept for nearly a week. In a state of shock. I can see how there would be inconsistencies and memory lapses. Then I'll see a video or read a post that will change my mind and I'll think, she is responsible for what happened to Haleigh, without a doubt.

I'm feeling the same way about all of the players, Joe Overstreet included. I don't trust the media one little bit, they relay whatever slant they want. Some bloggers are gaining incredible popularity by covering this case. In some instances, exploitation of Haleigh is rife.

There are so many conflicting stories, rumours, theories, facts and mistruths doing the rounds that I feel it's imposssible to make an educated guess as to who's responsible and what happened.

The police did question JO, but not as intensively as Misty has been interrogated. Or Tommy. GGMH never once mentioned that LE was making JO's life a misery and she lives near him in Tennessee. Whatever she's had to say to the media, this is the one thing she could have said that would have made a big impact on me.

 

[suspicious1]

I totally agree with you Cyber. On the tape with Tommy and GMH-Tommy told her NOT to tell "JO" because he might run. I don't think he was referring to JO, but let's say that he was: GMH went on National TV days later and told this story about JO and also told who the story came from...Misty and Tommy. Has JO ran off yet????? Where did he go???

IMO, Jo is where he has always been.

JMO though

 

[cj1132]

I think Joe is a scapegoat in all this. How convenient that he just happened to be in Satsuma and had plans to leave the day after Haleigh went missing.

 

[aoibhinn]

Misty was confident enough to hang posters with Joe that same day

^^ respectfully snipped

Good point. Maybe he forced her at gunpoint? Not believing the JO story at the moment, no way. Not the way they're telling it, anyway - meaning Misty and Tommy.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

^^ respectfully snipped

Good point. Maybe he forced her at gunpoint? Not believing the JO story at the moment, no way. Not the way they're telling it, anyway - meaning Misty and Tommy.

I have always believed Joe Overstreet was a major player in this case. I am more convinced than ever.

The putting up flyers was just to throw everyone off. Just like Scott Peterson put up a big banner in his yard with Laci's picture on it when she went "missing."

By then they had sealed themselves to the "story" that someone unknown came in and took Haleigh out of her home. Of course they would go through the faux acts of putting up flyers...... they were trying to protect their deadly secret.

When Misty went to stay with granny Flora she tried to pretend again that everything was hunkie doorie between her and Joe.



IMO

 

[epiphany]

I am not going to release ToC yet, OBlueEyes. M totally wrapped up in her twisted love story. She wasn't afraid of JO - don't buy it. She did not want to lose her Twisted Love. She had to have let JO and/or TO in.

 

[TrialAddict]

Joe putting up the flyers isn't what makes me think he didn't threaten Misty. It's Misty being with him the very next morning hanging them with him. She wasn't afraid of him. IMO

 

[Pensfan]

Confused as usual I posted this on another thread r/t Joe
"All I know is he's(Joe) got to pay; he can't get to none of us so it don't matter," ToCroslin replied.

ToC's wife and kids are NOT in prison so how are they protected from Joe? If he was so certain that Joe was a mean SOB, wouldn't he be terrified for his wife and kids?

 

[epiphany]

I don't think he needed help lifting Haleigh's body but he probably did need a vehicle and the blocks and rope. If he forced Tommy to help him then he could threaten him that if he told anyone he would be arrested too since he helped dispose of Haleigh's body.

I think he made Tommy go to the dock so that he could silence Misty and Tommy who knew he had killed Haleigh.

IMO

Cinder blocks, rope, HaLeigh - he wasn't going to go alone, especially if there was a plan to rob R's guns. If no plan w/ToC and M to rob R's guns - let's say JO is there for some other twisted reason w/M and something goes wrong, ToC's got to be pulled in because M needs to protect herself, as well as JO, if M let JO in.

 

[Emeralgem]

Joe putting up the flyers isn't what makes me think he didn't threaten Misty. It's Misty being with him the very next morning hanging them with him. She wasn't afraid of him. IMO

IIRC..One of her latest LDT's revealed she had not been threatend by Jo Overstreet....JMO

 

[Quiche]

In spite of all the statements from Flora Hollars, I still don't understand why she "knowed" it was JO. She indicates it's because he was changed when he came back from Satsuma-- well, I find that normal, who wouldn't be? A child disappeared within his immediate circle of friends/family.

I'd like to know what, in Joe's past, makes his family suspect him of such atrocious acts... rape, murder, weighing the child down and throwing her in a river? What makes them think he is capable of that?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Confused as usual I posted this on another thread r/t Joe
"All I know is he's(Joe) got to pay; he can't get to none of us so it don't matter," ToCroslin replied.

ToC's wife and kids are NOT in prison so how are they protected from roadkill Joe? If he was so certain that Joe was a mean SOB, wouldn't he be terrified for his wife and kids?

I read that at that time no one knew where Tommy's wife and kids were.

IMO

 

[aoibhinn]

I have always believed Joe Overstreet was a major player in this case. I am more convinced than ever.

The putting up flyers was just to throw everyone off. Just like Scott Peterson put up a big banner in his yard with Laci's picture on it when she went "missing."

By then they had sealed themselves to the "story" that someone unknown came in and took Haleigh out of her home. Of course they would go through the faux acts of putting up flyers...... they were trying to protect their deadly secret.

When Misty went to stay with granny Flora she tried to pretend again that everything was hunkie doorie between her and Joe.



IMO

I'm wavering all over the place at the moment with regard to who I think is guilty. At one stage, I did believe JO was the one most responsible.

There's one thing that bugging me though. Why do you think Ron then denies the fight over the gun so vehemently? And he also denies JO was in the MH that evening.

The only way this scenario sits with me is if there was a double-cross going on. Ie: Misty is in on the gun theft with Tommy. She leaves the back door bricked open for JO and Tommy. Because she's so tired, she possibly does sleep through the event. Misty has a 'story' prepared for Ron, that she relates to him when he gets home, only now she has to add in the disppearance of Haleigh. The 'story' implicates Ron in some way and maybe involves JO.