Why is LE treating this case different?

  • #21
My fear is that LE still has no clear picture of what happened to Kyron; the flyer may be an attempt to try to rule out Terri H., and maybe they will get some responses that indicate she was seen driving away alone. What then? Is she then ruled out?

But what is their next move? Do they have any alternate scenarios at this point? I can't help feeling that they do not have any idea and two weeks is a long time in this type of situation. Already, memories will be fading and without receipts, video, etc. it will be hard to pin down events to a particular day.

I think LE is trying so hard to be careful and perfect in this investigation that they may run themselves right out of options, suspects and time...
 
  • #22
BBM...wait! I missed that! Who and what did he say??? Is there a thread for that?

TIA.
I shared the link and then a mod deleted it, because it was from the public facebook page for Kyron. Also, even though it can be proven it is Tony's best friend giving his opinion, it is considered a rumor. So there isn't anything here to link.
 
  • #23
I shared the link and then a mod deleted it, because it was from the public facebook page for Kyron. Also, even though it can be proven it is Tony's best friend giving his opinion, it is considered a rumor. So there isn't anything here to link.

The mods are going to discuss FB later today, it might be tonight for some of you, and we'll post FB guidelines in the Threadiquette area of the sticky forum.
 
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  • #25
I would be very curious to know "WHO" the FBI's Criminal Profiler (that was brought in very early on in this case) has nailed it down to...wouldn't you?
 
  • #26
  • #27
It is impossible to know why the police in this case are conducting their investigation in the manner they have.

I do not see the flier being put out as just sinister toward Terri Horman. In fact for all I know they may be trying to rule her out and wants those who saw her to come forward saying they saw her alone in the truck leaving the school and not with Kyron.

I found it very interesting what the best friend of Tony Young's said. There is a possibility that LE can be giving all the attention to Terri knowing this is infuriating the suspect since LE has not even mentioned possible other suspects could be the perp.

I have thought about what he said and he is also a cop and I do remember that some of these kind of kidnapper/murderers hate it when they aren't getting the limelight and in other past cases they even began to write the police,local press and sometimes the families mocking them on how stupid they really are for not being able to figure it out. If this is a stranger then they were expecting the community and police to panic. If it was done by someone else such as a stranger or predator they would be angry that the police has labeled it an isolated incident. Although later on the police did say they are not ruling out an abduction when at first they said they didn't think it was an abduction.

So why they have decided this is the best way to conduct this investigation, only they know.

IMO

BBM

Ocean can we please have a link to the quote you made above by a law enforcement officer. Thanks.
 
  • #28
I just wonder how all this works between the FBI and local LE. All I know is from what I have seen on TV. Who calls the shots? Can local LE choose not to take the FBI suggestions? Anyone know for sure?
 
  • #29
Do you have a link for the statement by a friend of Tony Young?

I am so sorry for not replying sooner, this is the first time I have seen the posts about wanting the link.

I will try to find it. I read it here at WS in one of the threads but which one .....I have no clue at the moment.

IMO
 
  • #30
BBM

Ocean can we please have a link to the quote you made above by a law enforcement officer. Thanks.

LOL! I just saw these post grandma.

I am working on it as fast as I can.

I read it here at WS either yesterday or the day before and I am not good at searching through threads to find a particular link but I am trying my best. lol

Dang, I wish I could remember the name of his friend but it escapes me at the moment.

IMO
 
  • #31
I have searched but I cant remember his name. So I am not having any luck.

And it wasnt put in the news link thread.

But I do know I read it right here at WS and he also said it may be someone who was going to go to trial that TY may have arrested.

So just please disregard the post I wrote previously because I cannot found the link that was put in one of the many threads.

It is so hard to wade through so many threads hunting for one link and so many of them never wind up in the link, news thread.

I apoligize.
 
  • #32
Sorry if this is the wrong thread ...

Is the FBI still involved in the case? I'm wondering how much local LE is being directed by them as to the best way to handle this. I have never followed a case this closely from day one so it's very hard for me to compare.

I did read over that questionaire and the first thing that came to mind was that it had been designed by prosecutors. I didn't want to believe the SM could have any involvement but the way this is going I just don't see any other reasonable scenario. If she was out running errands that's not typically something you can do without contact with other people so it should be easy to verify. I keep wondering about the father too. If his wife was involved somehow, wouldn't he have some clue? My heart breaks for this little boy.

I haven't heard, but Portland has an active FBI office over by the Lloyd Center. They investigated the latest rumblings in the DB Cooper case as we learned here from a local on that thread at WS. I don't know if the CARD Team is still here, but would think that some of the local men and women in the Portland office would be on Kyron's investigative team as well. Pretty sure about that. ;}
 
  • #33
I shared the link and then a mod deleted it, because it was from the public facebook page for Kyron. Also, even though it can be proven it is Tony's best friend giving his opinion, it is considered a rumor. So there isn't anything here to link.

LOL! I just saw these post grandma.

I am working on it as fast as I can.

I read it here at WS either yesterday or the day before and I am not good at searching through threads to find a particular link but I am trying my best. lol

Dang, I wish I could remember the name of his friend but it escapes me at the moment.

IMO

Seems like you might have seen it in the thread mentioned here, but it is gone, which is why you can't find it.
 
  • #34
I just wonder how all this works between the FBI and local LE. All I know is from what I have seen on TV. Who calls the shots? Can local LE choose not to take the FBI suggestions? Anyone know for sure?


Hi Cher, This I do know. LOLOL

Both the FBI and the local investigators do their own investigations in a parallel way in a case. However the FBI holds the local guys as primary and always defer to them, even to the locals making the arrest/s .

The FBI has special talents in profiling, forensics and strategy that they offer the locals in their assistance to solve the case. But they do have to be invited to work on the case. If not readily, they often discover a reason why the locals need their expertise and they are given permission to do their thang.

xox and IMO
 
  • #35
Seems like you might have seen it in the thread mentioned here, but it is gone, which is why you can't find it.


Ah, I saw that on TV last night. The gal in Wilsonville Or who started the Kyron website said she had taken it down {or was about to} because there were too many people posting who were being unfair in their attitude towards TH. Can't remember her name right now. xox
 
  • #36
I no longer feel that the LE are handling this case very oddly, or differently than they should.

Now that we are two weeks down the road it's easier to not focus on holding them to each and every word they said in those first few days.

At this point I feel like this is pretty much what has happened with the LE.

No matter what they said at first, or how we interpreted those words, I think they felt Kyron had wondered off. By searching in the areas around the school they covered this possibility as well as the studies that show many young children are dumped within a few miles of the abducting site. They had no evidence of an abduction at that time, so they couldn't say they thought it was one. The search covered both scenarios and a chance to find any clues.

As the days went by, they started searching at SI. They said it was due to a tip. I believe them. Maybe from pings, a called in tip, something found, whatever. They spent a whole lot of money and time and are still searching there now, so whatever it was, it was a good one, or they found more evidence there to make them feel even more sure.

At the same time they interviewed the parents and children, twice. They searched the neighborhood again. All of this has either eliminated other possibilities for them because they found/heard about nothing else that could have come down. They have said they check out every tip they get and they get plenty. I believe them.

So, they have followed every other lead they can find, and they have looked for them well. I am sure they checked out known RSO and many other things too. But, what they have found leads them no where, or to the step mom.

Even without any evidence, they have to have their suspicions just like all of us. If we all picked up as many odd feelings from her/them, what do you think they might have picked up being around her all the time, asking questions, verifying her story? They are either finding faults or clues or are not getting the clear answers/proof they need to stop looking hard at her.

So they ask for tapes, maybe to prove what she has said, they keep questioning her, they keep narrowing the other possibilities or proving what she says is true.

They are focusing on her, as much as we can tell, while following all other leads. They put out the flier because at the time of the first two questionings it was more about, 'did you see Kyron', 'when did you see Kyron' and now it's about Terry. So they put her pictures and the truck she must have been driving on the flier to focus their minds, this is who/what we are asking you about, as well of course, about Kyron.

They need more info or answers. They need a tighter time line, they need to get evidence or eliminate suspicions. They seem to have dismissed or proven wrong the sighting of Kyron later, without her.

They are focusing on her because the lack of evidence leads them to her, or problems with her story, or evidence they may have found.

The family wouldn't be as likely to be suspicious of her until other possibilities are eliminated. Wouldn't we all like to see them together now? I think they might be feeling very differently.

It just doesn't seem odd to me anymore. As time goes on we see that many other possibilities, such as kidnapping for ransom, etc...are gone. We still have many questions that we would like answered. What was spoken by the family at the first PC was very, very weird, but I no longer think there is any big thing going on that they know that the public doesn't.

I hope we are all wrong and Kyron is home and safe soon.

All of this is MHO
 
  • #37
Seems like you might have seen it in the thread mentioned here, but it is gone, which is why you can't find it.

Thank you mtnone. I thought I was losing my mind.:crazy: I did see other posts mentioning it but when I went back to search for what he actually said it had gone poof.

Maybe he came in on FB and was talking about it there and FB comments have been a no no. I didn't even notice that is where it had originated from but that is most likely what happened.

IMO
 
  • #38
Thank you mtnone. I thought I was losing my mind.:crazy: I did see other posts mentioning it but when I went back to search for what he actually said it had gone poof.

Maybe he came in on FB and was talking about it there and FB comments have been a no no. I didn't even notice that is where it had originate from but that is most likely what happened.

IMO

You are very welcome and I know the feeling. I can't tell you how many times I have gone looking for something this week and not been able to find it. We are on information overload at this point I think. It does make you feel like you are losing it! :waitasec:
 
  • #39
I am baffled too. I understand after cases like the Caylee Anthony case, the media becomes more enemy than friend. I can see that being a part of why they are still media shy.

But to me, that's not enough of a reason to behave as the police have in this case. It almost seems like they thought they knew what was going on, and now they are back at square one, hence the questionnaire? I also think they suspect Terri, but probably don't have near enough to arrest her or make her an official POI. Maybe that's also why the questionnaire seems to center on her so much?

I also wonder if Intel has something to do with this, in that maybe the police are afraid of being too vocal or Intel will lawyer up Terri and the dad, and then maybe investigating Terri will become impossible? Maybe LE is afraid of the big money here, something they might not be able to overcome if this was more public? I mean, let's face it, if these people lived in a trailer, I doubt there would be so much secrecy from the press.

This is all IMO, of course, and I could be wrong. But it sure does look like the police are no closer to knowing much of anything and Terri could lawyer up with high powered lawyers at any moment, so keep it close to the chest and out of the public eye until they know something and either clear Terri or make her officially a POI.
 
  • #40
Would the police behave differently if the suspected POI were a minor child, a sibling of the victim, rather than a parent?
 

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