Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #36

[MissLaura]

But that's what happened with the Groene's. What's his face was driving by and saw Shasta and her either playing outside in bathing suits. He came back later at night with night vision glasses and attacked.

Also with Elizabeth Smart, BDM decided to he was going to take her the first time he saw her when they were out shopping 6 months before her kidnapping.

 

[The Dude]

Rescuers, law enforcement recount finding Closs alive
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Nutter’s thoughts were swirling, but she stayed in the moment. She’d known the Closs parents had been murdered, and Closs was likely kidnapped and in danger. She knew somebody with bad intentions could be pursuing Closs and, in one of her few inquiries to Closs, Nutter found out about Patterson’s red car.

Nutter was on the lookout for the vehicle while the three of them made their way to safety. Nutter said she was prepared to dive for cover if need be. It took eight minutes, Nutter said, to get to the Kasinskas residence not far away. Nutter knew they would be protected there.



Peter Kasinskas said he was cleaning fish in the kitchen when his dogs “started going crazy.”

His wife, Kristin, and children, ages 7 and 9, were getting home.

“And then the neighbor lady was pounding on our door in the kitchen,” Peter Kasinskas said. “She opened the door, her dog ran in, and then she helped this girl into the kitchen. She said: ‘It’s Jayme Closs. Call 911.’

“My jaw hit the floor.”


Kristin Kasinskas immediately called 911.

“Jayme was able to give us the person’s name and the color of the car that he drove (red), so when we called the police they could know who they were looking for,” Peter Kasinskas said. “She was probably in shock. She was pretty quiet. She didn’t say a lot.”

Thanks for posting this. I had not seen it before. What a great story...

 

[bellyup]

There are televisions in jail & this has been national news. This guys face has been plastered all over the tv. He may be in an “individual cell” for now, but eventually he’s going to be moved into a group setting. Honestly, they may try and keep him away from others to insure someone doesn’t bash his skull in before trial. In a small town setting like Barron, he will almost certainly be in jail with men who know the Closs family.

He'll never, ever, ever see general population.

 

[MsJosie]

Pictured: The home where kidnap victim Jayme Closs, 13, was held captive for 88 days | Daily Mail Online

Article names lawyers Charles L Glynn is a asst public defender, as well as Richard L. Jones. He has 2 lawyers s far.

 

[Lillymac]

If he drove by when she was first speaking to the woman with the dog, he probably would have killed the woman and taken Jayme once again. JMO

Was he armed when he was arrested?

 

[Curiousobserver]

I don't think he knew yet, that she had escaped. Thank Goodness. I think he was out doing errands, or whatever it was he did when he would leave her there alone.

In my opinion, if he had known she had escaped, then his reaction to being pulled over would have been very different. I think he would have tried to get away at that point. I think he truly believed he was just getting a traffic ticket. JMO

Agree- he would have bolted if pulled over

 

[Curiousobserver]

Pictured: The home where kidnap victim Jayme Closs, 13, was held captive for 88 days | Daily Mail Online

Article names lawyers Charles L Glynn is a asst public defender, as well as Richard L. Jones. He has 2 lawyers s far.

Those pictures of her smiling are just awesome.!

 

[PayrollNerd]

Neighbor who came to Jayme Closs' aid: 'We were armed and ready' for suspect to come looking

I cannot even imagine how frightened the adults must have been, especially for the safety of the three children. (Jayme, 13, two others aged 7 & 9)

 

[TCIntriguedIN30]

I'm not sure of Wisconsin protocol but we've come far in victim advocacy in this country. Sometimes minor victims are allowed to testify via video, or with a screen between them and the perp. Etc.

I'm hoping he pleads. I have a feeling he talked. Younger perps usually do.

I was just about to say a family member at age 12 who has experienced sexual abuse was able to do a " forensic interview" video.

 

[sun16]

It sounds to me like there could have been a lot of who knows what going on in that Patterson house at all times of day and night, with people coming and going. Who knows the last time mom or dad were there to see the inside of the place. Loner, drop-out, no job, couldn’t have had any of his own money. This sounds like a recipe for disaster.

 

[stephlovescheese]

Watched both press conference, and read a no of pieces on JP... still don’t get the timeline... or what’s being said.

Divorce happens in 2008.. that makes JP roughly 11 years old at time of divorce...

One neighbor makes it sound like once divorced the kids were left the cabin for themselves... then they were later in foster care??? So both parents bail on 3 kids in 2008 is that correct...that would mess someone up @ 11...not excusing ... I just don’t know what happened 2008 to 2019...
Doesn’t appear it was much structure or family time..

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Patterson’s parents divorced in 2008, according to online court records. Neighbor Daphne Ronning told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that the parents moved away but that Patterson and his older brother, Erik, continued to stay in the cabin. She said she and her husband once caught them siphoning gas. Another neighbor, Patricia Osborne, told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that the brothers often got into trouble. She said they stole things and spent time in foster care.

I’m confused about this too @Rubiconbob. Interested to see how these years, including the last three, play out.

 

[katydid23]

Was he armed when he was arrested?

I don't think LE has answered that yet.

 

[Jabarn]

It sounds to me like there could have been a lot of who knows what going on in that Patterson house at all times of day and night, with people coming and going. Who knows the last time mom or dad were there to see the inside of the place. Loner, drop-out, no job, couldn’t have had any of his own money. this sounds like a recipe for disaster.

I agree there seems on the surface parental avoidance toward one or both of the sons. I wonder if one of the parents was paying the utility bills... I guess LE would check that out. This is the kind of information the FBI profilers would be paying attention to understand future crimes, I guess?

 

[The Dude]

Neighbor who came to Jayme Closs' aid: 'We were armed and ready' for suspect to come looking

I cannot even imagine how frightened the adults must have been, especially for the safety of the three children. (Jayme, 13, two others aged 7 & 9)

I'm not so sure frightened is the right word. A retired cop, a teacher, and a child protection social worker? These folks were in full protection mode! See this great article that was recently posted here:

Rescuers, law enforcement recount finding Closs alive

And this quote:

She followed her dog’s urge to head for a walk before sundown.

“I owe it all to him,” she said. “He made me go for a walk.”

See, I told you guys that HenryStandingBear is a hero, too!

 

[TCIntriguedIN30]

Classmates, teachers remember Closs kidnapping suspect as 'quiet'

FOX 9 also spoke with a teacher’s aid who said she never really saw Patterson apply himself to school, but he consistently aced his tests.

ETA: I found this interesting because it obviously shows he is not delayed or anything. Obviously very intelligent perhaps not challenged enough and bored...wow what a big jump he made

 

[girlhasnoname]

"While I don't know how she escaped at this time, we believe that the suspect was out looking for her when law enforcement made contact with him," Fitzgerald said Friday.

Jayme Closs' parents killed because they were 'barrier' to her kidnapping, sheriff says

 

[PommyMommy]

For Jayme Closs, the healing process is just beginning
It's likely to be a long, difficult process, but one where healing is possible, according to mental health professionals and other survivors of childhood trauma.

"Today is not the end of her story. It's the middle of this journey," said Alison Feigh, director of the Jacob Wetterling Resource Center. "Now begins the rebuilding and healing process."

The weeks and months to come will bring fresh challenges as Jayme is reunited with her loved ones and grieves the loss of her parents, who were gunned down in their home Oct. 15. Authorities say 21-year-old Jake T. Patterson targeted the family in order to kidnap Jayme.

She must now grapple with how to cope with her experience. How to deal with prying questions. How to be a kid again.

"There's a crushing grief and anxiety in realizing that she's not returning to the life she knew," said Daphne Young, chief communications officer at Childhelp, a national nonprofit that aids young abuse victims.

Survivor's guilt may bubble up, and she could struggle with post-traumatic stress, Young said.

Jayme's hometown of Barron, Wis., wants to welcome her back with fanfare, but experts in childhood trauma say that the attention can be overwhelming.

"Some find the spotlight terrifying. They don't want it to define their self-worth," Young said. "She doesn't need to be a hero 24 hours a day. What she needs is peace and support."

A structured daily routine will be key to developing a sense of normalcy, professionals said.

 

[SleepyLee]

reporting that we see today, it's a good idea to fact check information by verifying that the same information is published by several independent sources.

Thanks for the tips. And I agree 100% about three or more independent sources to verify any facts.

I’d caution a little bit against the idea that things are often changed or removed. Does it happen? Sure. But also keep in mind that your memory isn’t infallible - sometimes people just remember thin

I absolutely agree. It's because of this reason that I'm wondering: typically in anything I do I keep detailed notes, call logs, etc. because I know I have a poor memory and because I know that if I don't keep articles/docments, nobody will believe me..if that makes sense...lol...which is how it should be. So every time do you retain your proofs or just post things right away and that serves as your record?

 

[Oakland CA]

She could have been isolated in a portion of the house where no one was allowed.

Possibly kept tied up in a locked basement or something.

Had someone seen her, they would have likely connected the dots. And the people he associates with, would certainly jump at that reward money.

You can buy a lot of drugs with that.

Do we know what people he associated with?
Drug users?

 

[girlhasnoname]

I'm not so sure frightened is the right word. A retired cop, a teacher, and a child protection social worker? These folks were in full protection mode! See this great article that was recently posted here:

Rescuers, law enforcement recount finding Closs alive

And this quote:

She followed her dog’s urge to head for a walk before sundown.

“I owe it all to him,” she said. “He made me go for a walk.”

See, I told you guys that HenryStandingBear is a hero, too!

Dogs are always the hero aren't they? Luv em'