Will Cindy and George's Behavior Affect Their Employability?

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  • #41
It's not just about doing the job well or having a clean work history. At my dad's former company they fired a man that was continually arrested for DUI. He did an excellent job at work and didn't show up at work intoxicated. They offered him drug counseling twice and on the third arrest that made the newspaper they fired him because it came out in the paper where he was employed. Their reasons were.

1. Other employees that might be injured due to his negligence might claim he was intoxicated all the time and the company knew about it. In dealing with other employees with substance abuse problems they might cause problems when they are dismissed and they bring up, "Oh well you let the alcoholic stay. I think I should get as many chances as they did!"

2. Customer perception that they ran a business with intoxicated people. Problems in shipping might be blamed on alcoholism in the workplace. May lose customers.

Taking that into account I can imagine if she becomes directly involved in patient care again and something happens on her watch. It might be assumed she was responsible and the company held liable for hiring such a person.
Administrative. It might be assumed by the patient/customer/family that Sin couldn't even keep her own accounts straight due to family members and seemed pretty unaware. You might have patients asking that their accounts not be handled by her. If this happens often she will be thought of as a liability.
 
  • #42
No, it was within the last month. Someone mentioned it on an interview.

Is there confirmation that GA has lost his job then?
 
  • #43
Florida is a right to work state. Employers in the state can hire and fire at will and don't need to give a reason why. Unless it is clearly demonstrated the hire/fire was based on race, religion or age, employers have the hand up in Florida. After what I've seen of them on local and national television, I wouldn't hire them. They need mental help. I wouldn't expose my employees to them nor my business. George has proven to be accident prone and Cindy is just unthruthful. She worked herself out of the employment pool went she told the world that lying was not against the law. They can save thier resumes. My business is too important.
 
  • #44
Is there confirmation that GA has lost his job then?

The discussion isn't about whether or not GA lost his job.

The discussion is about if, as an employer, one could justify hiring them and trusting them in a position that requires trust and credibility without facing liability charges based on their very public behavior, non-compliance and non-truths.
 
  • #45
Yes i believe this media coverage has tarnished them , I wouldnt want my business
disrupted by the media and public attention they have and will have for years to come.
 
  • #46
The discussion isn't about whether or not GA lost his job.

The discussion is about if, as an employer, one could justify hiring them and trusting them in a position that requires trust and credibility without facing liability charges based on their very public behavior, non-compliance and non-truths.
The opening post does ask if they can retain their jobs. I think it is relevant to know if they have lost their jobs due to anyone'sperception of them whether real or imagined.
 
  • #47
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  • #48
Yes i believe this media coverage has tarnished them , I wouldnt want my business
disrupted by the media and public attention they have and will have for years to come.

They were willing participants in the media frenzy. All the media had to do was turn on the camera, Cindy and George did all the real work themselves. It's called getting what you deserve.
 
  • #49
The opening post does ask if they can retain their jobs. I think it is relevant to know if they have lost their jobs due to anyone'sperception of them whether real or imagined.

Agree with you. I think any employer would have to look at the ramifications of having either in their employ. Would it hinder their business or would they be an asset? Can they be team players and perform their assigned tasks? Perception is everything to the consumer. Personally if CA were employed at the medical facility where I had an appointment, I would not go. Not the first time I have refused to go to an establishment of my choice because of certain employees.

I thought I read in one of the released transcripts that GA no longer had employment. There are way too many pages to go back and check. Does anyone remember this? If he is still employed I apologize for asking.
 
  • #50
They were willing participants in the media frenzy. All the media had to do was turn on the camera, Cindy and George did all the real work themselves. It's called getting what you deserve.

Yes they were but as a business owner that is not the issue
I wouldnt want my business affected by their presence - the media
will be going for sound bites after every appeal every event for
years .
 
  • #51
I think that CA and GA and doing what any normal parents would do and that is stand by their children. They think that the know what their child is capable of and can't see beyond that. I really feel for them that they are not living in the real world when it comes to their daughter. I am not so sure that if it were my child how I would be dealing with this situation. I hope that I or you never have to. Take Neil Entwistle and Scott Peteson, their parents continue to stand by them. I know that I would not want to wear their shoes.

I also don't think that it will effect their employment as much as the publicity of this case. Most companies do not this kind of publicity in any shape or form. Once this is all over they will continue to live their lives as normally as they can. IMO
 
  • #52
While it is true they haven't been charged or considered POIs to date, it still doesn't absolve them from wrongdoing here.

We know that they have done wrong things, but to try and pick a part their employment is wrong. What would we like seeing? Them homeless? Jobless? Let's face it, they will never "win" no matter what they do. At any time they will be subjected to investigations, accusations, finger pointing, etc. I've had strong personal feelings about this family in the beginning and still do---but when is this going to end?
 
  • #53
If we looked at other cases from the past where people involved were looked at in a negative light, I do think we'd see that for the most part life does go on. People involved managed to have a job etc afterwards. Look at Mary Winkler, she was given a job. If the need arrives where any of the A's have to look for employment I have no doubt something would open up for them, that is, for any of them besides Casey but we all know she wasn't wanting a real job anyway.

VB
 
  • #54
I have to be honest on this one. They have done so little to garner respect or sympathy from anyone that quite frankly, I couldn't give a damn.

MOO
 
  • #55
We know that they have done wrong things, but to try and pick a part their employment is wrong. What would we like seeing? Them homeless? Jobless? Let's face it, they will never "win" no matter what they do. At any time they will be subjected to investigations, accusations, finger pointing, etc. I've had strong personal feelings about this family in the beginning and still do---but when is this going to end?
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What employer would want to leave him or herself open to investigations, accusations, etc. that might damage their business or reputation?

Would you hire any of them, and if yes or no, why or why not?
 
  • #56
Chilly - Am I the only one that finds this discussion rather - malicious?

My intention is not for it to be a mailicious discussion. I view it as a discussion regarding how actions directly affect many things. If they were in non professional roles, I don't think any of this would have an affect. George may be trusted with certain info, I dont know. I do know Cindy's job does involve one of great trust. I think all we are saying is how would feel if George was, lets say, security for your company or Cindy was your mothers home health nurse?
 
  • #57
Yes they were but as a business owner that is not the issue
I wouldnt want my business affected by their presence - the media
will be going for sound bites after every appeal every event for
years .

I must have misunderstood you. You wrote "i believe this media coverage has tarnished them" as if it was the media's fault these two might be unemployable. They created the inability to work or become the best candiadte for the job. Maybe they can get involved in an MLM or ponzi scheme.
 
  • #58
I could've sworn that George made a comment recently that he'd lost his job and was currently unemployed.

I think that George lost the job that he had when Caylee first went missing. I think that he then got another job. Did he lose that one too? Does anyone know for sure?
 
  • #59
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What employer would want to leave him or herself open to investigations, accusations, etc. that might damage their business or reputation?

Would you hire any of them, and if yes or no, why or why not?

I wouldn't hire them. One of the most important things for an applicant to me is honesty and these people do not seem to have an honest bone in their bodies. NONE of them.

If people would lie about something so serious as this lying to an employer would be the least of their worries. If people are not honest in small things, they are not to be trusted PERIOD, and this is NOT small.

I do not believe ANY honest parent would do what they have done. No parent would want their child in jail for murder, but there are a lot of parents who have experienced that and I doubt the majority of them ever considered lying and concealing things from LE.

It appears to me their entire life and family was built on lies and now they have come crashing down.
 
  • #60
No, you're not. There is absolutely nothing to indicate that Cindy is in any way unable to perform the job that she's trained and licensed to do. No one is aware of any blotches on her work history and apparently her current employer is happy with her or they wouldn't be holding her job open waiting for her to return.

Cindy's inability to cope with her granddaughter's death and her daughter's alleged responsibility for the murder have nothing to do with her ability to perform her job.

Cindy seems to be a strong willed person who cares very deeply, perhaps too deeply, for people she's close to. Those are both excellent qualities in a nurse, IMO.

I do not view Cindy as a person who cares deeply. If she loved her grand daughter at all, she would not allow her to be out in the elements. She would want that child buried properly. I know she is in a protective mode for KC but the reality is KC is the adult & Caylee was the innocent.

We trust our health care provider to not only care but to also use good judgement. I just don't see her doing any of those.

Maybe she is an out standing nurse, I don't know. I do know all the nurses I have the honor to work with respect the dead as well as the living. To leave that baby out there just goes against who most nurses are. I don't think nursing is just a career, so much of it is also who you are 24/7.
 
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