Will Cindy and George's Behavior Affect Their Employability?

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  • #61
If we looked at other cases from the past where people involved were looked at in a negative light, I do think we'd see that for the most part life does go on. People involved managed to have a job etc afterwards. Look at Mary Winkler, she was given a job. If the need arrives where any of the A's have to look for employment I have no doubt something would open up for them, that is, for any of them besides Casey but we all know she wasn't wanting a real job anyway.

VB

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She was given a job working in a dry cleaner's establishment.

I won't get started on Mary Winkler and that matter but I would be interested to see the difference in tax filings and gross income both before and after she was employed.
 
  • #62
We know that they have done wrong things, but to try and pick a part their employment is wrong. What would we like seeing? Them homeless? Jobless? Let's face it, they will never "win" no matter what they do. At any time they will be subjected to investigations, accusations, finger pointing, etc. I've had strong personal feelings about this family in the beginning and still do---but when is this going to end?
This isn't a win or lose situation. I don't care what happens to them personally since the object here is to find Caylee's remains now. Everyone has already lost as far as I am concerned.

We are discussing the current situation and how it will affect them in the future. This is about what they have done to themselves by their own actions not what others have done to them. We don't control what they do, but we are free to discuss the ramifications of such.

It will end when Caylee is found with or without their help. Obviously, it will be without.

(By the way, I didn't start this thread and I haven't said anything I feel is out of line.)

ETA: Unbolded and uncolored by me.
 
  • #63
I think this is the intelligent level of discussion we are looking for in this thread.
It has the potential to become malicious if posters go there, but as long as the discussion is reasonable it is ok.
They have put themselves out there by going on talk shows and the like, which does open them up to scrutiny, there is no way around it.
But, like others have said, they are not charged and have been reported by LE as cooperative and helpful. With that in mind they should not be open to blatant bashing as they are still victims on some level in this fiasco.

I agree with all you have said except they are victims on some level. That is subjective. For me, I personally do not feel they are victims on any level.
If they had not attacked the public, the media, LE, TES, I might feel different. I even understood their anger was part of grief. You go thru so many emotions, dis belief, blame, guilt, anger...all of it. But they really don't act like it's grief. They act like it is everyone else's fault that Caylee is probably dead & KC probably did it. I am sure many have tried to get them into grief counseling. I so wish they would do that.

I know most feel they really loved Caylee. Again, that is subjective. What is love? It is more than providing her a home, food, clothes. For me, I feel they know Caylee is dead & they are sacrificing her being found just to save KC. Nothing on this earth would allow me to not want to bring my grand baby home for a proper burial. Caylee needs someone to be her voice & I am so sad that the family isnt that voice.
 
  • #64
We know that they have done wrong things, but to try and pick a part their employment is wrong. What would we like seeing? Them homeless? Jobless? Let's face it, they will never "win" no matter what they do. At any time they will be subjected to investigations, accusations, finger pointing, etc. I've had strong personal feelings about this family in the beginning and still do---but when is this going to end?
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I certainly have never said I want them jobless or homeless. I just don't think you can go on TV, scream at the public to get off their butts & go look for Caylee & if she dies it will be everyone else's fault. You can not throw mud & then expect to be embraced.
 
  • #65
If I were the one hiring I'd have to think long and hard about this. If any one of them applied for a position and were qualified to fill it I would have to be fair and allow the process to work itself out. Doesn't mean I have to hire them but disqualifying them for no reason could come back to bite me in the a$$ later on. Do I really want to be seen as the unfair employer if this saga drastically changes gears? There have been so many twists and turns - none of us knows for sure how it's going to turn out. I may decide to play it safe and give the process a chance.

First and foremost, I would not rely only on what I see on TV and read in newspapers and magazines. Quite frankly, we don't know all there is to know at this point and I wouldn't dismiss someone based solely on hearsay and some sound bytes I hear on the news. I don't know about anyone else but I certainly wouldn't want to be in a situation where a potential employer discounts me simply because he/she thinks they might know something about me - I want to be given the chance to share my side of the story, to prove that I am capable of doing the job. I'd do a thorough employability (background) check, talk with references and see what my gut feeling was if I did an interview with one of them. At the end of the day, I've been fair.

A sidebar - if my budget was hurting at that particular point in time I might give thought to the fact that extra media attention can certainly hurt - but it's also free advertising. The majority here may say they'd boycott a business one of them were working at but I am sure there are plenty of sympathizers who would say the opposite. And let's not forget the curious - those who would do business with the company just for the sake of having a "brush" with one of the family.

*For the record, I am not an A family sympathizer. I'm just looking at the situation with an open mind.
 
  • #66
After Casey is finally convicted, I think it's possible that Cindy's anger and her feelings of guilt might totally consume her. That might make the question of anyone being willing to hire her a moot point.

I think Lee and George are still somewhat sympathetic figures & I think deep down they disagree with Cindy's way of 'helping' Casey at Caylee's expense.

I think the 2 Anthony men will accept reality in the end and be alright. I think they probably had years & years of practice dealing with the explosive behaviors of both Casey & Cindy.
 
  • #67
After Casey is finally convicted, I think it's possible that Cindy's anger and her feelings of guilt might totally consume her. That might make the question of anyone being willing to hire her a moot point.

I think Lee and George are still somewhat sympathetic figures & I think deep down they disagree with Cindy's way of 'helping' Casey at Caylee's expense.

I think the 2 Anthony men will accept reality in the end and be alright. I think they probably had years & years of practice dealing with the explosive behaviors of both Casey & Cindy.

I think as soon as Casey is convicted of murder, Cindy will start a foundation for the "wrongly accused".
 
  • #68
I'm sorry - I still just see this as distasteful. I suppose I don't have to click on it and read. I think there are other things that could be discussed aside from the A's "empoyability".
 
  • #69
I wonder if the vicious attacks and accusations that some here have leveled against them has interfered with their ability to obtain gainful employment? Maybe some felt obliged to do this in the interests of justice because they felt that the actions of the Anthonys, themselves, had not made them look nearly bad enough without WS interference.

WS knows that they wield so incredibly much influence with the general public that their mission was accomplished. WS opinion seems to say that they don't want them to work. They don't want them to receive donations. They just want them to die... because WS is all about justice! Just sayin'.
 
  • #70
I think as soon as Casey is convicted of murder, Cindy will start a foundation for the "wrongly accused".
Well...that takes care of that! She can find employment by creating her own! Good point, Janis!
 
  • #71
I wonder if the vicious attacks and accusations that some here have leveled against them has interfered with their ability to obtain gainful employment? Maybe some felt obliged to do this in the interests of justice because they felt that the actions of the Anthonys, themselves, had not made them look nearly bad enough without WS interference.

WS knows that they wield so incredibly much influence with the general public that their mission was accomplished. WS opinion seems to say that they don't want them to work. They don't want them to receive donations. They just want them to die... because WS is all about justice! Just sayin'.

I believe the only thing influencing the public are the actions & words of the Anthonys. I pretty sure no one out there cares what I have to say on the matter. Unlike Cindy, I don't feel I have power & influence. This is not a discussion to bash any of them. It is just a discussion about how one' s actions affect everything else. If it makes someone uncomfortable to use Cindys name, they may say " what if LeLe did such and such, would you hire her." I am fine with that.
 
  • #72
You have to see though that even if you do not view this particular thread as a vicious attack - there have been some attacks that are below the belt.
 
  • #73
If we are such a major powerhouse here...maybe Tricia should run for President as a write in candidate on Tuesday!! LOL I had NO idea!! Wow!

How cool would that be?! We could run the FBI, the CIA, and Homeland Security from our computers then we would never complain again at the lack of information coming from LE! LOL
 
  • #74
I for one would not hire either one of them.

I have no respect for liars.
 
  • #75
I would hope that if someone does decide to hire either one of them in the future they should ask them take a lie detector test. I have had to take them for various jobs in my employment and passed every one. Wonder if they would be able to do the same?

Oh and I don't think George should be in Security for obvious reasons.....
 
  • #76
As my mother has always told me, actions speak louder than words. The A's have shown such various ranges of emotions, which is understandable. There attacks both verbally and physically are well documented. That will over flow into their professional lives, IMO. I am a former nurse and my husband a police officer of 30 years. I know 1st hand what the expectations of trust are required from those positions. Trust in the work place is paramount, and even more so when you are dealing with peoples lives. Lies are lies, doesn't matter if it's little or not. I feel the liability issues for both of these people will be too high for a while. Once KC is convicted, memories will fade and they will be able to get work. Just may not be in their chosen fields. As for FMLA (Cindy's leave), most companies will only hold your position open for a certain amount of time without termination. It could be that she has already been let go, but they (company) doesn't want the publicity, nor does she.
 
  • #77
I got the impression she is not on FMLA but on another kind of leave her company allows.
 
  • #78
I have to be honest on this one. They have done so little to garner respect or sympathy from anyone that quite frankly, I couldn't give a damn.

MOO

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Same here.
 
  • #79
I can't think of one single example where a nurse who for one reason or another has become "famous" (or infamous) and has continued to work in nursing, taking care of patients. It would be too distracting and would take the focus off the patient.
 
  • #80
We know that they have done wrong things, but to try and pick a part their employment is wrong. What would we like seeing? Them homeless? Jobless? Let's face it, they will never "win" no matter what they do. At any time they will be subjected to investigations, accusations, finger pointing, etc. I've had strong personal feelings about this family in the beginning and still do---but when is this going to end?
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The problem with it ending is that they appear to be keeping it going.

There are CAs lies, evasions, and ever-changing stories. LE had to confront her about them. There are the endless demands that OTHER people search for Caylee. But, where have they searched?

They could have "won," very easily, if they had:

1) CA had consistently told LE the truth, and cooperated with LE requests. CA has even lied on the stand at the bond hearing. Under oath.

2) Done some searching, themselves. This especially since they ask for money to "search for Caylee."

3) Stopped finger-pointed and fault-finding OTHERS-- LE, TES, JG, etc.

4) If they really believe that Caylee has been kidnapped, issued a plea to the kidnappers.

In short, if this family behaved with any kind of dignity, there would likely be more sympathy and respect.

I do have some respect for GA, because he testified truthfully, and gave truthful statements to LE.

Would I have CA as a nurse? No! If she'll lie under oath, how could one trust her to write truthful and accurate clinical notes?

Nurses make the rare medication error. The protocol is to own up to it, immediately, then correct it. Would CA own up? Or, would she cover up? Or, maybe try to blame someone else? How does one know?

If her perceptions are that whacked, could she do an accurate and thorough patient assessment?

If she's that histrionic, how effectively does she handle life/death patient emergencies?

Lastly, when one works with a patient, it's all about the patient, not about self. Think about that for a moment. Then, substitute Caylee for the patient.

MOO
 
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