Will George, Cindy & Lee Deny the Abuse Allegations?

[USARDOG]

If those allegations are made in opening statements, it will be interesting to see if they come up again when and if they take the stand. I believe if they are asked directly about molesting ICA, all will deny it. I can't ever see GA falling on his sword about this, it's just too much to ask IMO, and I think the same goes for LA, and I don't think for one minute that ever happened.

 

[mydailyopinions]

I have no idea what to expect from any of them? I do not think Lee will go along with it, but Cindy and George??

In Casey's letters to Robyn, Casey claims that she told Cindy about Lee's advances on her... coming into her room, etc. She doesn't claim to tell Cindy about George. She says she was just starting to have vivid dreams of George coming into her room as a child. When she told Cindy about Lee, Cindy then asked her "so that is why you're a ?"

Is Cindy really willing to destroy her son?? I really hope not! She better deny these allegations in these letters.

If she does, then she deserves whatever comes her way! I just can't see choosing one child over another in this way.

 

[Adrienne37]

This is only the second time I've watched that clip of Lee at Caylee's memorial. Disgusting, repulsive, and if we think that Lee in any way whatsoever will stand up for Caylee during this trial, we are delusional. He made his intentions very clear in his CMA speech, very clear, and it wasn't to stand up and be a voice for Caylee, it was to do whatever it takes to make sure that Casey gets off.


~jmo~

 

[Aedrys]

They have already denied the abuse allegations.

Only CA and GA through their lawyer. Lee has never come out and denied the accusations, and I don't think he has a lawyer now. Call me cynical, but I won't believe they're denying the allegations until it comes out of their mouths.

 

[Solace]

Only the CA and GA through their lawyer. Call me cynical, but I won't believe they're denying the allegations until it comes out of their mouths.

I hear ya. If it is true that the defense will use this, and I think it is, because they tried veryhard to keep them out of the courtroom, to no avail, they are taking a chance, because George could very well turn and defend himself.

 

[Frigga]

I get your point (I think), and correct me if I am wrong Lolamoon, but your main point seemed to me that yes they denied the allegations of sexual abuse, but without any blame or anger towards ICA for making the allegations- as usual.

They are mad at the school... mad at the teachers for ICA not being able to graduate- not ICA... never once are they mad at ICA for it (wth?)... they are mad at the towyard... pissed about the money it will cost them (probably even blamed the post office, but I can't remember)- but never mad at ICA for allowing the car to be towed and NOT TELLING ANYONE!

No... in Anthony land it is always someone elses fault. That doesn't sound like parents who are jerked around by a sociopathic daughter, that sounds like parents who have a pathology all their own! Please Lolamoon, correct me if I am wrong in regards to your post~ Frigga

 

[LolaMoon08]

I don't understand how this was missed - Lippman came out with a press release denying all of this. It is a moot point.

You don't think JB is going to question Cindy, George and Lee about the accusations she wrote about in those letters to Robyn?

I remember when the abuse accusations had first came about. It was through Jesse Grund's interview with LE and Cindy called him a liar and said he was making it up.

Well, Casey confirmed that she told Jesse about the accusations and felt betrayed by him in the letters to Robyn and continued to accuse Lee and George.

How can Cindy and George not put any blame on Casey for these accusations and say she was simply trying to make Robyn feel better by saying she went through the same thing when she had told Jesse about the abuse accusations shortly after Caylee was born? That is what I do not understand about the Anthony's? It is never Casey's fault. They blamed Jesse earlier and said he was lying... now they still don't blame Casey even though she confirmed all of this in her letters?

It may be a "moot point" or it may not be? I do think JB is going to question them on the stand about the accusations. I think JB is hoping for a Cindy and George Anthony that showed up for the Morgan and Morgan deposition. That is how he wants a jury to see them.

We all know Cindy and George are going to start out as being the grieving grandparents, but look how quickly they changed once LDB was questioning them and then the difference when Jose was questioning them. I think JB wants to catch them off guard and show their true colors on the stand as I am sure that Cindy and George have been informed that they can not act like that towards the State in front of the jury. I think JB is going to slam them on the witness stand and their in such denial that they are not even expecting it to happen, imo. But again, it will never be Casey's fault. They will blame the defense even though I believe that Casey has been the ringleader in all of this.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I get your point (I think), and correct me if I am wrong Lolamoon, but your main point seemed to me that yes they denied the allegations of sexual abuse, but without any blame or anger towards ICA for making the allegations- as usual.

They are mad at the school... mad at the teachers for ICA not being able to graduate- not ICA... never once are they mad at ICA for it (wth?)... they are mad at the towyard... pissed about the money it will cost them (probably even blamed the post office, but I can't remember)- but never mad at ICA for allowing the car to be towed and NOT TELLING ANYONE!

No... in Anthony land it is always someone elses fault. That doesn't sound like parents who are jerked around by a sociopathic daughter, that sounds like parents who have a pathology all their own! Please Lolamoon, correct me if I am wrong in regards to your post~ Frigga

Nope, you got it 100% correct. You said it a lot better than I could! Thank-you!

 

[chakti]

You know the way this family has stuck their necks out for ICA, makes me kind of wonder if it has been to keep here from bringing out how twisted this bunch really is. ( I haven't said anything).

It happens every day.

 

[SailorMoon]

That still creeps me out. Very very odd speech.

 

[NocturnalLady]

He hasn't denied it yet, and I think if asked, Lee would deny it. I don't think Lee will go under the bus for Casey. Last time he was on the stand, I definitely got the impression he was not on the same page as Casey. He loves her, but I highly doubt he's going to throw his life away to save her. I don't think Cindy or George would want Lee to destroy his life for Casey either. He's their last hope for grandchildren, so there's no way they would want him going down for Casey.

I think George will keep denying the abuse through his lawyer, and I have the feeling if asked he would deny it, but I have this suspicion that Cindy might be trying to talk him into throwing himself under the bus for Casey, or Cindy is scheming with the defense to make George the fall person but not telling George about it. I don't think Cindy is willing to ruin herself at all, but I do think she doesn't mind George being the fall person if it saves Casey. In fact, if he went to jail in Casey's place, I think that would be just fine with Cindy. Crazy, yes, but I think Cindy values Casey way way WAY more than she values George. The fact she and her lawyer met with the defense without George (I think it was just her and not George but correct me if I'm wrong) tells me something is brewing behind the scenes, and I wouldn't be surprised if George found himself as the one who gets the blame when he didn't think that was going to happen, and lo and behold, Cindy doesn't try to save him or defend him. In fact, she will probably go into martyr mode, surprised and aghast at George's abuse, and claim she had no idea it was going, only if she knew she could have done something, etc. If I was George, I would be very nervous with the trial starting tomorrow.

Now, the only denial out there is a through the A's lawyer. None of them have ever come out and denied the abuse, which is mighty hinky to me. Abuse is not something to stay quiet about, and they only say it didn't happen through their lawyer? And Lee hasn't denied it all. So I'm not sure what is going on behind the scenes there. I guess we'll see what happens once it starts coming out in court, starting probably in Baez's opening statements tomorrow.

I do wonder, though, if maybe GA and CA made a deal with the defense - leave Lee alone, and we'll do what you want? I do wonder about that. I can see them making a deal so that Lee is spared.

Actually GA sort of denied it with that "why? why? why?" letter he sent Casey in prison.

 

[zippitydoda]

Cindy also denied any household physical, emotional, sexual or substance abuse in the her July 2008 FBI interview (I, painfully, reread it over the weekend).

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=9270330
Page 112, line 13.

p.s. for some reason, the transcript is dated April 2008, but I believe it occurred at the end of July.

 

[DaughterAlice]

I think they WILL fight it, if it does indeed come up, but . . . .

They will say either that KC's legal team "forced" her to make the allegations (I know, I know, not so likely..) or that poor poor wittle KC is so desparate that she HAD to do this and they totally understand, even though they deny the claims. They'll say that she's been pushed to the point of desparation.

 

[USARDOG]

Another interesting question here is can anyone who "admits" molesting ICA as a minor, be prosecuted after the trial!

 

[Solace]

I think they WILL fight it, if it does indeed come up, but . . . .

They will say either that KC's legal team "forced" her to make the allegations (I know, I know, not so likely..) or that poor poor wittle KC is so desparate that she HAD to do this and they totally understand, even though they deny the claims. They'll say that she's been pushed to the point of desparation.

But she can't say that if she is going to go on the stand and agree to it. Especially during the trial - I guess you mean afterwards she will say she lied.

 

[nursebeeme]

Another interesting question here is can anyone who "admits" molesting ICA as a minor, be prosecuted after the trial!

didn't Lee take an in use immunity?

 

[kathryann]

I get your point (I think), and correct me if I am wrong Lolamoon, but your main point seemed to me that yes they denied the allegations of sexual abuse, but without any blame or anger towards ICA for making the allegations- as usual.

They are mad at the school... mad at the teachers for ICA not being able to graduate- not ICA... never once are they mad at ICA for it (wth?)... they are mad at the towyard... pissed about the money it will cost them (probably even blamed the post office, but I can't remember)- but never mad at ICA for allowing the car to be towed and NOT TELLING ANYONE!

No... in Anthony land it is always someone elses fault. That doesn't sound like parents who are jerked around by a sociopathic daughter, that sounds like parents who have a pathology all their own! Please Lolamoon, correct me if I am wrong in regards to your post~ Frigga

I totally agree with the pathology of the family. Since I am associated closely with a 12 step program, I see first hand families that teach their kids it's everyone elses fault, and never, ever make them take responsibility for their own actions. The majority of parents like this have children who are addicts or sociopaths. It's sad, but I believe that the Anthony's WILL back Casey up.

 

[Just Jayla]

I think CA will sacrifice herself or leave some wiggle room for the defense.

I believe GA will, when asked about it by the state, since they are sure to call him as their witness first and they are sure to preempt the defense, will act like he has never heard those allegations before and he is incredulous that the state would even ask, thereby denying abuse of any kind. He seems to enjoy acting bewildered and angry about anything the state asks or insinuates.

Lee will chuckle a bit, a sign that he knows what they are asking, and he will deny allegations. He will not take KC down a notch when he does it, he will give a yes or no to each question-Again, he is to be called by the state first as their witness, if my understanding of the process is correct, and again, I think the state will take this out of JB's arsenal before he can effectively present it to the jury via testimony.

 

[kathryann]

By the way, I don't think it will be George or Lee, I think the abuse will be from some close family friend or neighbor or relative who took advantage of her when she was young.

 

[DaughterAlice]

But she can't say that if she is going to go on the stand and agree to it. Especially during the trial - I guess you mean afterwards she will say she lied.

Yes! Thanks for the clarification. I pretty much mean afterwards.