Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #87

[housewife]

RSBM

They hired an attorney because their son illegally used Gabby's debit card.

Yes, Brian committed additional crimes and should be held accountable.

The lawsuit also claims Brian sent Gabby's mother a text message about no cell phone service in Yosemite Park, which is in California. Gabby's body was found in Bridger-Teton National Forest in Wyoming.

Brian was lying when he sent the text. It was intentional on his part. He was sending the message "don't bother trying to contact us, it won't work" to dissuade Gabby's mother from trying to communicate with Gabby.

 

[MyBelle]

The wording “She’s gone” even seems manipulative on his part. It is vague enough to mean anything but the only thing that is clear that whatever happened up until that point, she is physically not with Brian anymore. Why not “She’s gone. I did it” or “I killed her” or “I did something bad and now she’s gone forever”, or “She’s gone and she never can never come back”. Why not just the simple and unspoken truth, “She’s dead”. It as though while distancing himself from any responsibility he is also trying to paint the picture either she or some-third party factor are involved, like she died from alcohol pointing, took her own life, she broke things off with him to be with someone else so he stole her van and credit card in retaliation and left, they got into a fight, he took the van and abandoned her in the park overnight and when he came back he couldn’t find her when he got back. He waited two days, he thinks she has been injured and is probably dead. Any or all these things could just be framed as happenstance for which he is not responsible and could be implied or inferred by the vague term “She’s gone”.

Than asking his parents for a lawyer right after could lead many to insinuate guilt, but for his parents this request and the distancing and vague language from earlier could have been used to make it seem like wasn’t responsible for her being “gone” but he could get in trouble just by association or she could get him in trouble because he still hadn’t made it clear to them that she is dead or what exactly occurred. It is like appealing to their innate parental nature to protect their children while trusting their son when he says he is innocent despite their own doubts or how suspicious or sketchy things may look.

JMO but I did think the language could be telling. Could be wrong though.

I think he wrote his suicide note because he had not told his parents he killed Gabby.

JMO

 

[housewife]

They didn't arrest Brian because Gabby admitted to police that she had hit Brian. Police had them separate for the night which is what police do in my state if they don't witness the hitting.

JMO

Gabby Petito-Brian Laundrie case: The full story behind the high-profile deaths

The "Van Life" vlogger was reported missing on Sept. 11, 2021. What happened between her and her fiancé Brian Laundrie in the days leading up to her death?

www.cbsnews.com

They didn't arrest Brian for many reasons, mostly because they failed to follow their own procedure, as the independent review stated:
"...misinterpreted Utah's assault code, did not take photographs of her injuries, and neglected to contact the 911 caller who reported seeing Laundrie slap Petito, among other issues..."

 

[MyBelle]

They didn't arrest Brian for many reasons, mostly because they failed to follow their own procedure, as the independent review stated:
"...misinterpreted Utah's assault code, did not take photographs of her injuries, and neglected to contact the 911 caller who reported seeing Laundrie slap Petito, among other issues..."

They also didn't arrest Gabby even though she admitted she had hit Brian.

JMO

 

[LinasK]

Actually, the reason the Moab police didn’t arrest Brian Laundrie is because they identified the wrong person as the perpetrator. Moab Police made mistakes due to not being properly trained in domestic violence.

Bingo! Most DV victims blame themselves. And the perp gaslighted her by saying how hysterical she was. She was the one with scratches all over her face. She was reactive to him seizing her cell phone.

 

[MyBelle]

They didn't arrest Brian for many reasons, mostly because they failed to follow their own procedure, as the independent review stated:
"...misinterpreted Utah's assault code, did not take photographs of her injuries, and neglected to contact the 911 caller who reported seeing Laundrie slap Petito, among other issues..."

Oh, so its now the fault of LE? The Moeb Utah police report clearly says why neither was arrested. Cops are allowed to use their own judgment.
JMO

New details emerge about Brian Laundrie's behavior in the days after Gabby Petito went missing

Local and federal officials continue to search for any signs of Brian Laundrie in the Carlton Reserve, a roughly 25,000-acre nature preserve near his parents' Florida home.

www.wesh.com

Earlier in August, police in Moab, Utah, had an encounter with the couple, where officers describe them as having "engaged in some sort of altercation."

Although the two are described as getting into a physical fight following an argument, "both the male and female reported they are in love and engaged to be married and desperately didn't wish to see anyone charged with a crime," a report from officer Eric Pratt says.

 

[Trooper]

Oh, so its now the fault of LE? The Moeb Utah police report clearly says why neither was arrested. Cops are allowed to use their own judgment.
JMO

New details emerge about Brian Laundrie's behavior in the days after Gabby Petito went missing

Local and federal officials continue to search for any signs of Brian Laundrie in the Carlton Reserve, a roughly 25,000-acre nature preserve near his parents' Florida home.

www.wesh.com

Earlier in August, police in Moab, Utah, had an encounter with the couple, where officers describe them as having "engaged in some sort of altercation."

Although the two are described as getting into a physical fight following an argument, "both the male and female reported they are in love and engaged to be married and desperately didn't wish to see anyone charged with a crime," a report from officer Eric Pratt says.

Well... someone in the Utah Moab police org feels that there are certainly times when cops using their own judgement can make compounded mistakes, and currently, the conclusion is that those particular Moab coppers did, in fact, make a very large and particularly stupid basic error in their judgement,, so much so that they were put on probation for it. ....

So really, cops using their own judgement are as subject to common sense laws as any one else is.

Report finds Utah police made mistakes in encounter with Gabby Petito, Brian Laundrie

Police in Moab responded to a domestic incident between Petito and Laundrie on Aug. 12, a month before Petito’s body was found in Wyoming.

www.nbcnews.com

The review recommends that the two officers, Eric Pratt and Daniel Scott Robbins, be placed on probation.

Pratt has been with the Moab Police Department since 2018 and has 16 years of law enforcement experience, the report says. Robbins was hired in May, and he was in the final phase of a field training program.

 

[MyBelle]

Jeez, the family is not only blaming the Laundrie parents, they also filed a $40 million lawsuit against the Moab police department. This lawsuit claims that Gabby told her family about Brian hitting her and they immediately made plans to fly her home and have the van shipped back but then she said police had been called so the parents "stepped back." The Moab stop was on August 12. Her mother didn't report her missing until September 11.

If that is the case, then why are they blaming Laundrie's parents for not returning calls? Why did Gabby's mother wait so long to report her missing to the FBI?

JMO

Gabby Petito's family targets Moab Police officers in newly-filed complaint amendment

Gabby Petito's family on Wednesday filed an amended complaint against the Moab Police Department, adding new grievances to a previous complaint following new in

kjzz.com

It alleges the Moab City Police Department's "negligent hiring and failure to properly train and the individual officers' negligence caused Gabby's tragic and untimely death," specifically naming Chief Bret Edge, Assistant Chief Braydon Palmer, and officers Eric Pratt and Daniel Robbins, as well as 10 unnamed individuals, as defendants.

 

[MyBelle]

Well... someone in the Utah Moab police org feels that there are certainly times when cops using their own judgement can make compounded mistakes, and currently, the conclusion is that those particular Moab coppers did, in fact, make a very large and particularly stupid basic error in their judgement,, so much so that they were put on probation for it. ....

So really, cops using their own judgement are as subject to common sense laws as any one else is.

Report finds Utah police made mistakes in encounter with Gabby Petito, Brian Laundrie

Police in Moab responded to a domestic incident between Petito and Laundrie on Aug. 12, a month before Petito’s body was found in Wyoming.

www.nbcnews.com

The review recommends that the two officers, Eric Pratt and Daniel Scott Robbins, be placed on probation.

Pratt has been with the Moab Police Department since 2018 and has 16 years of law enforcement experience, the report says. Robbins was hired in May, and he was in the final phase of a field training program.

So you would prefer that the Moab police arrested Gabby? Because that is what your article says. I'm glad they used their common sense and didn't arrest Gabby. They parted them for the night.

JMO

The review found that the incident should have been classified as domestic violence, which would have required officers to make an arrest or issue a citation, which would have been against Petito, Ratcliffe said in the report.

 

[Trooper]

So you would prefer that the Moab police arrested Gabby? Because that is what your article says. I'm glad they used their common sense and didn't arrest Gabby. They parted them for the night.

JMO

The review found that the incident should have been classified as domestic violence, which would have required officers to make an arrest or issue a citation, which would have been against Petito, Ratcliffe said in the report.

The more I think on that purported outcome, the better it becomes. It would have been a wakeup jog to Gabby, and if my memory is correct, there was a female officer there who saw the whole event differently than the male cops did and tried to open Gabby's eyes a bit as to the damaging gaslighting Brian was doing to her, day in , day out, and perhaps she may have some real deep impact on Gabby's thinking. It would have not only seperated them but Gabby may have been able to ring her father, and get another point of view, and of course, Gabby's bruises would be well and truly plain as day by morning, most likely opening up a whole other avenue of perspective as to who exactly was performing violence upon whom.

So not such a bad outcome, at all, in my view.

Of course, you would prefer that Brian be awarded a totally blameless backstage pass to go on and become even more unhinged and eventually, not too soon after, murder, in cold blood , with his bare hands, at night, in the deserted woods, Gabby Petito... you are entitled to your preference. It is not mine, and that's ok, too.

 

[MyBelle]

The more I think on that purported outcome, the better it becomes. It would have been a wakeup jog to Gabby, and if my memory is correct, there was a female officer there who saw the whole event differently than the male cops did and tried to open Gabby's eyes a bit as to the damaging gaslighting Brian was doing to her, day in , day out, and perhaps she may have some real deep impact on Gabby's thinking. It would have not only seperated them but Gabby may have been able to ring her father, and get another point of view, and of course, Gabby's bruises would be well and truly plain as day by morning, most likely opening up a whole other avenue of perspective as to who exactly was performing violence upon whom.

So not such a bad outcome, at all, in my view.

Of course, you would prefer that Brian be awarded a totally blameless backstage pass to go on and become even more unhinged and eventually, not too soon after, murder, in cold blood , with his bare hands, at night, in the deserted woods, Gabby Petito... you are entitled to your preference. It is not mine, and that's ok, too.

BBM. Gabby's parents claim in their lawsuit against the Moab LE that her family was aware of the allegations of domestic violence against Brian. Yet, they chose to do absolutely nothing about it. They should have encouraged her to leave the relationship and also file an Emergency Order of Protection. That didn't happen.

I have never remotely suggested that Brian was totally blameless so stop twisting my posts. Thanks.

JMO

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I think he wrote his suicide note because he had not told his parents he killed Gabby.

JMO

And even then, he still couldn't bring himself to tell them the truth.

Listen, I can believe that Brian did not tell them straight up that she was dead. But clearly they knew something was terribly wrong, and I can't wrap my head around why they were so evasive and deceitful to the Petito's. But what we think doesn't really matter. What matters is that the Petito's filed a lawsuit claiming they were harmed, as is their right, and we will see what the preponderance of the evidence shows.

Two families were irreparably harmed. One family could have divulged information to the other and decided not to. Those are the facts. Whether the one family receives damages or not, we will have to wait and see.

If you had your pick of which family to be your neighbors, which would it be? Seems clear.

 

[Cool Cats]

BBM. Gabby's parents claim in their lawsuit against the Moab LE that her family was aware of the allegations of domestic violence against Brian. Yet, they chose to do absolutely nothing about it. They should have encouraged her to leave the relationship and also file an Emergency Order of Protection. That didn't happen.

I have never remotely suggested that Brian was totally blameless so stop twisting my posts. Thanks.

JMO

You say that Gabby's

family was aware of the allegations of domestic violence against Brian.

But you provide no links or context to this. Who says this? Does this refer to one specific incident or multiple incidents? Who was abused? Do the parents say this or a source that is anonymous?
Allegations are not facts, they are allegations.

Please provide links.

 

[Lawnguylander1964]

That's 13 days before Petito's mother reported her missing on Sept. 11, 2021.

People keep asking why Gabby's parents filed this civil lawsuit. This is why.

13 Days.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

IMO the Laundries have committed an immoral and unethical act. Gabby's family believes so as well, so they have brought their damages to the attention of the court.

It appears that many here are arguing that they shouldn't have taken that action because the Laundries have done nothing illegal. And, while that may be factual (the decision of the court will determine that), it gave me cause to consider the many times our laws have actually changed. Haven't we abolished many national social and moral injustices on the brave efforts of individual citizens' court pleadings?

Sadly, I am often reminded that Ethics and Law are not always bed partners but that fact doesn't stop me from hoping that they can at least live in the same house.
MOOOOOoooo

 

[nao]

And even then, he still couldn't bring himself to tell them the truth.

Listen, I can believe that Brian did not tell them straight up that she was dead. But clearly they knew something was terribly wrong, and I can't wrap my head around why they were so evasive and deceitful to the Petito's. But what we think doesn't really matter. What matters is that the Petito's filed a lawsuit claiming they were harmed, as is their right, and we will see what the preponderance of the evidence shows.

Two families were irreparably harmed. One family could have divulged information to the other and decided not to. Those are the facts. Whether the one family receives damages or not, we will have to wait and see.

If you had your pick of which family to be your neighbors, which would it be? Seems clear.

Moo....I would definitely not want to live next to the Petito's considering their known civil lawsuits. The Laundries keep to themselves. For that reason I would find the Laundries the more peaceful less stressful neighbors..moo

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Moo....I would definitely not want to live next to the Petito's considering their known civil lawsuits. The Laundries keep to themselves. For that reason I would find the Laundries the more peaceful less stressful neighbors..moo

Until you need something.

 

[LinasK]

Moo....I would definitely not want to live next to the Petito's considering their known civil lawsuits. The Laundries keep to themselves. For that reason I would find the Laundries the more peaceful less stressful neighbors..moo

Not me! I'll take the Petitos as neighbors any day over the Laundries.

 

[Sundog]

I'd be fine with either of these families being my neighbors.

 

[MyBelle]

You say that Gabby's


But you provide no links or context to this. Who says this? Does this refer to one specific incident or multiple incidents? Who was abused? Do the parents say this or a source that is anonymous?
Allegations are not facts, they are allegations.

Please provide links.

The allegations are in the lawsuit the family filed against Moab police. It's a public record. You're correct, allegations are not facts.

I stated it was my opinion. I concur with the attorney for Moab police. The lawsuit is a publicity stunt.

JMO

Gabby Petito family lawsuit against Utah cops a ‘publicity stunt,’ police lawyer says

“Even if the plaintiffs believe that Moab City is liable, it strains credibility to suggest the City is 15-20 times more responsible for Ms. Petito’s death than Brian Laundrie, her murderer,&…

nypost.com