Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #78

[simplemind]

I don’t expect a confession either but if it is I don’t think his parents would ever admit it. Based on their actions thus far I don’t see that happening.

This is why I don't have much faith that the Laundries can or will provide an accurate version of events to the Petitos. If they were told half truths by BL it is of no use and if they got the real version I have trouble imagining them being able to face and communicate that. It will be the FBIs case that will be the closest the Petito's will get to the truth.

 

[Figuring]

I think he messed up. I really do. I think he made an accidental slip up forgetting that Gabby wasn't found until after this date. He has slipped up on things like this a million times and he keeps having to walk stuff back. And, then when he gets questioned on his walk-backs, he gets angry. I have a solution for this: STOP TALKING.

All JMO.

Agree 100%!

 

[cady]

Thank you for posting this. Or re-posting it--I hadn't seen it.

I think Banfield rocked that. She was prepared. Good for her.

I don't think he'll be back on Monday.

She said later, when she was livestreaming that they spoke after the interview and all was good. He may show up Tuesday for another one. jmo

 

[Jurisprudence]

Banfield apparently thinks speech is not protected if the lawyer speaks to 2 different clients at once, or 3 in this case. With possibly competing interests. I'm sure someone can rephrase this in proper legalese.

You bring another party into the conversation, privilege is breached. MOO (Also why he needed Cassie to stay out of it).
There are instances where you can have multiple party agreements and you can secure waivers. These were not in play during the dates she was questioning. MOO

 

[sarahboirin]

I really think the parents thought he was OK for that whole month, as I mentioned before they were just too nonchalant and seemingly unworried. Then, something happened the day of the shopping outing, where I think they may have expected some contact, they didn't get it, they were shaken up, and scheduled the search for 7 am the very next day, going to the place his father had found him that night. All in my opinion.

RSBM Yeah it seems weird how they were suddenly spurned into action, to be up at first light to get out to the park to search, when for 30+ days they were so disinterested that they couldn't tell one day from another, they all rolled into one (was it the 13th or the 14th, was it a Monday or a Tuesday, did I mow the lawn, did a whole truck load of reporters turn up outside my house etc) moo

 

[Jurisprudence]

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(Ftr, being a lawyer does not insulate one from scrutiny. In fact, it does the opposite IMO. It brings more pressure to bear IMO. He is held to a higher standard than the general public.)

 

[nhmemorymaker]

This may have already been discussed as I’m a thread behind.
Remember when SB announced on September 20 that he would hold a press conference the following day in New York?
Here is just one of the reporters who tweeted about it, with his official announcement on letterhead attached, talking about press set-up.

At 11:37 am

https://twitter.com/gaillevyontv/status/1440007341513007109?s=21
BrianLaundrie’s lawyer just told me there will be a press conference in NY tomorrow.


At 8:26 pm same day September 20

https://twitter.com/gaillevyontv/status/1440140249208745989?s=12
LAUNDRIE’S LAWYER CANCELED THE PRESS CONFERENCE! He just texted me:

“As per my conversation with the FBI this evening there will be no press conference tomorrow.”

what do y’all think SB was going to say ? What did FBI do or say to change his mind?

Very good question? Had forgotten about the "why" for the cancellation.

I wonder if it has anything to do with the heightened search efforts in the Reserve... I don't remember the exact dates the local reporters said searching was ramped up, but the days made little to sense to all of us watching and waiting..........

 

[cady]

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(Ftr, being a lawyer does not insulate one from scrutiny. In fact, it does the opposite IMO. It brings more pressure to bear IMO. He is held to a higher standard than the general public.)

But, wouldn't discovery be lit! jmo

 

[cottonweaver]

You bring another party into the conversation, privilege is breached. MOO (Also why he needed Cassie to stay out of it).
There are instances where you can have multiple party agreements and you can secure waivers. These were not in play during the dates she was questioning. MOO

but didn't SB also say to Banfield that as well as these joint Facetime conferences he had with R, C, B on 12th & 13th, he also held separate conversations with R&C together & then separately with Brian solo, on the 12th& 13th.

If it came to depositions in a civ suit or charges wouldn't it be easy to C,R & SB to deal with that, practically?

 

[LietKynes]

You bring another party into the conversation, privilege is breached. MOO (Also why he needed Cassie to stay out of it).
There are instances where you can have multiple party agreements and you can secure waivers. These were not in play during the dates she was questioning. MOO

Thanks, even though you were replying to someone else.
A question : Is it a conflict of interest if the lawyer SB was representing BL and the parents at the same time ?
Or does it fall under multiple party agreements ?
I am totally interested in what was said between BL, SB, and the parents !

Because there may be a clue there as to why BL committed suicide -- if he did ?
If not suicide, a poisonous snake or gator contributed to his demise ?
MOO.

 

[10ofRods]

BTW do you hold public Inquests or equivalent in the US?

Even if Bertolino & the parents didn't exist, we'd still hold an Inquest over BL's death, here in the UK ( & many other Euro countries) we wouldn't just be waiting on the will of any LE agency

No, we don't. But we do give the names of criminal defendants and suspects to the world. And we use any and all tips to construct an investigation (which is what we call an inquest). The facts only become truly public at trial, but a grand jury (rare) or an arrest warrant (mandatory to start a criminal case) will contain written facts based on the investigation. At the preliminary hearing, the main facts are presented, but it is mandated to include exculpatory facts.

Does an inquest in UK require exculpatory facts to be given, I've always wanted to ask.

 

[Bertha96]

Not for himself. For his clients, RL and ChL, if BL made statements in the notebook that incriminate them in some way and become public.

IMO they will have a difficult time proving whose writing is in the notebook and the date any entries were written. Without proving what date the entries were added, it could be dismissed as having been written years ago about something other than the current situation and it could be argued that someone other than BL wrote it while it was out of BL's custody. I doubt if it makes any difference in the legal case. IMO.

 

[LietKynes]

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(Ftr, being a lawyer does not insulate one from scrutiny. In fact, it does the opposite IMO. It brings more pressure to bear IMO. He is held to a higher standard than the general public.)

bbm
Very true.

As a side note : This is bringing SB a ton of publicity.
Might be a bit negative, but bad publicity is still exposure.
How many of us heard of this guy before Gabby's case ?
In one word, it looks like he's not going away soon, and the Laundrie's apparently have no plans to replace him with more competent counsel.
Imo.

 

[10ofRods]

RSBM Yeah it seems weird how they were suddenly spurned into action, to be up at first light to get out to the park to search, when for 30+ days they were so disinterested that they couldn't tell one day from another, they all rolled into one (was it the 13th or the 14th, was it a Monday or a Tuesday, did I mow the lawn, did a whole truck load of reporters turn up outside my house etc) moo

Well it was the actual first day they were allowed to do so. I can't imagine what it was like for them, being excluded from looking all that time (and that's more and more common in US missing persons or criminal cases...I would have a very hard time with it, indeed, if my child was missing).

 

[BeachSky]

IMO, Joseph and Nicole may in fact be preparing to have to sue for them.

either that, or alternatively LE is interested in them as evidence.

My daughter journals as she travels - yep old school pen & paper. Boxes & boxes of journals.
Electronically or on paper I would want to
know WHAT was going on with my Gabby.
I’m so sad/MAD for her mother that all of GP’s things are gone.


MOO

 

[cady]

but didn't SB also say to Banfield that as well as these joint Facetime conferences he had with R, C, B on 12th & 13th, he also held separate conversations with R&C together & then separately with Brian solo, on the 12th& 13th.

If it came to depositions in a civ suit or charges wouldn't it be easy to C,R & SB to deal with that, practically?

We also don't know if they had any 3 and 1 calls before the 11th. What about Sept1-10? Or before? jmo

 

[Jurisprudence]

The parents finding of BL could absolutely just be coincidence. But it makes you wonder did they find him that first night and talk to him out there 9/13? Did he have a camp set up there? Did they return to the same spot the next day? Or was he never there until the Friday the FBI came? And what happened on 9/18 further south on the canal? Hopefully this will be clarified in time, I wouldn't expect a TOD in the range of a day to be able to be determined from autopsy though. There could be other evidence on that week that hes yet to come to light.

"But it makes you wonder did they find him that first night and talk to him out there 9/13? Did he have a camp set up there? Did they return to the same spot the next day?"

This is incredibly interesting. Fascinating. Good post!

 

[514Caledonia]

bbm
First bolded : Indeed.
SM: That is where the hate and vitriol may be, but it's not at all happening here at WS.
Speculation about changing timelines and possible or intentional muddying of the waters, yes.
Speculation about why the dates from the lawyer keep shifting ?
Speculation about how the parents were able to succeed and find Brian's belongings which ultimately led to finding his remains -- when LE and the combined forces including the fbi were unable to do so ?
Etc.
Yes, there are questions, and there should be.

Second bolded : I respectfully disagree.
Strangulation can take up to five minutes and there was time to change his mind and let Gabby go.
That is not only evil it's a monstrous act to inflict on another person, especially a young innocent lady he had once planned to marry and said that he loved.
The worst betrayal imaginable.
Gabby and her family are the only victims in this case.
No one else was murdered.
Imo.

We know little about BL's past. Only one friend of his from his past has stepped forward to describe BL. Yes, it takes time to strangle someone. Why didn't BL have friends in high school. There are a few things that could make a person zone out for awhile which means he was mentally ill, not evil. I look at it this way. Gabby loved Brian and she knew him for years. If he was an evil creature, don't you think she would have known? I think BL has some problems we don't know about. Do I think what he did was okay? NO NO NO. What he did was evil, very evil. However, Gabby up until toward the end, saw and loved BL. What made him snap at the end when he killed her? If he was pure evil, he would not have had enough remorse to kill himself at the end. MOO

 

[Jurisprudence]

You are definitely not alone.

To some degree, we have all lost the "bad guy", so SB has had to be the replacement.

But WS is a forum that so very often leads up to and goes through a trial.
And we have seen defense lawyers "force pieces to fit" and distort "the compilations of facts", so as to end up establishing reasonable doubt for very very guilty defendants!

So I think we are analyze every piece of the puzzle, even if they seem to fit together just fine.

IMO he is not a "replacement." There are genuine questions here grounded in fact. Those facts are the documented inconsistencies from SB himself. MOO

 

[Bertha96]

Well it was the actual first day they were allowed to do so. I can't imagine what it was like for them, being excluded from looking all that time (and that's more and more common in US missing persons or criminal cases...I would have a very hard time with it, indeed, if my child was missing).

I thought they said the park was open to the public for the first time the day before the L's went to search? Instead of going the first day it was open, they called LE that night and then went to search the next morning which was the second day the public was allowed in. IMO.