Zahra Baker Search and Recovery Effort and Input

[stormsailor]

dudley shoals rd-burns rd, that creek is only approx. 3 miles from the lake. normally creeks this close to catawba river lakes back up during heavy rainfall. due to the smaller area of drainage for this creek and just eyeballing the main-channel readings probably 2 ft of water during those f2 storms 2 weeks back. you have all the water coming in from all creeks in the entire lake so the water backs up into the slower flowing ones. all this is imho but i've lived on or near lake wateree or lake wylie most of my life, both are catawba river lakes.

 

[sarx]

Most times LE is kind of closed ranks. They will follow their tips and leads, and map off areas they feel should be searched. I honestly do not believe that they willl use their resources searching areas suggested by the general public. I have never known them to do that in all the years my late husband was in LE, and he retired after 21 years of service.

I respect the work on the maps and am very interested in seeing the maps that have been posted. Today has sort of been showing maps of where LE is searching, and I think that is great.

JMO

It really depends on where and who you are talking about. Big departments have all kinds of resources, smaller ones not so much. Just my experiences from working SAR for 15 plus years.

 

[sarx]

It takes less than a foot of moving water to move a car, so.....

 

[LCoastMom]

can't even recall his name off top of my head. With his name and with EB's arrest record, coupled with knowing the approx date EB AB and Z got here we could certainly figure it out.

Was this the address?

1507 21st St NE

Hickory, NC

ETA oops first try was incorrect

 

[tlcya]

Here's what I'm thinking...if this were a house EB grew up in, she'd know the area VERY well. I have addresses, but I don't know if any of these addresses belonged to her father. If we're missing a pattern, perhaps it's because we're missing a crucial address. Make sense?

I agree, EB has spent most of her life moving around the state of NC. Much of it appears to be in a relatively small area of it. So knowing where she spent big chunks of her childhood, particularly teen years would offer insight into possible areas of search.

 

[tlcya]

ty for all the local perspectives we've been getting, before the forum formed and particularly on this thread. you guys are instrumental in helping us know the lay of the land (or waterways as it were today)

 

[Pondering Mind]

It really depends on where and who you are talking about. Big departments have all kinds of resources, smaller ones not so much. Just my experiences from working SAR for 15 plus years.

sarx, I was under the impression that the FBI is involved with this case..am I mistaken?

 

[WilkesNC]

OMG..not mulberry mil rd. that is less than 1/2 mile from my home ???

 

[LCoastMom]

OMG..not mulberry mil rd. that is less than 1/2 mile from my home ???

no, I think that was wrong, the Hickory address IIRC is correct - not 100% sure

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Is that in the
Hudson Elementary School in Caldwell County area? http://charlotte.news14.com/content...issing-girl-turns-into-homicide-investigation - Zahra went to that school until March 2009.

No....Mulberry Creek Rd, is in Mulberry, NC , near Wilkesboro.

 

[raisincharlie]

dudley shoals rd-burns rd, that creek is only approx. 3 miles from the lake. normally creeks this close to catawba river lakes back up during heavy rainfall. due to the smaller area of drainage for this creek and just eyeballing the main-channel readings probably 2 ft of water during those f2 storms 2 weeks back. you have all the water coming in from all creeks in the entire lake so the water backs up into the slower flowing ones. all this is imho but i've lived on or near lake wateree or lake wylie most of my life, both are catawba river lakes.

Thanks for that information. Question though - Courtner is the head guy for Caldwell County Emergency Management - would you suspect he would also be well aware of that ?

 

[Clue Hopper]

I'm curious here. There had been a long dry summer. Then some rain in that area before this happened. Wouldn't that make the creek bottom soft and spongy? Almost having a suction type effect?

 

[tlcya]

IDK looks like the route is pretty well populated along the way from 21st but I haven't mapped from Christy or Burns etc

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...6892,-81.175232&spn=0.960315,1.755066&t=h&z=9

 

[Peliman]

I agree, EB has spent most of her life moving around the state of NC. Much of it appears to be in a relatively small area of it. So knowing where she spent big chunks of her childhood, particularly teen years would offer insight into possible areas of search.

I'm waiting to hear the latest results of today's search but your comment triggered a memory if correct. I don't follow the Caylee case but read some earlier reports. I thought it was mentioned Caylee was found around an area where the children in the neighborhood used to bury pets n stuff, or nearby.

I do hope today's search brings answers to the Zahra case.

 

[tlcya]

waiting for confirmed address before I go stumbling around anym ore on the EB father addy. They lived with him for six months or so, right after arriving from Aus.

 

[writer7]

Is that in the
Hudson Elementary School in Caldwell County area? http://charlotte.news14.com/content...issing-girl-turns-into-homicide-investigation - Zahra went to that school until March 2009.

Is this the right date?
Date Case Served on
Defendant
Jun 19 2009

2490 HELTON RD, Granite Falls

under BAKER,LEISA aka BAKER,ELISA ANNETTE

 

[writer7]

Is this the right date?
Date Case Served on
Defendant
Jun 19 2009

2490 HELTON RD, Granite Falls

under BAKER,LEISA aka BAKER,ELISA ANNETTE

It's even later, but there's also:

Address 1
21 21ST ST NE, Hickory

Date Case Served on
Defendant
Aug 1 2009


Those are the only records I found for 2008-2009 through the criminal records I saw.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Hmm, last name rings a possible bell but if you can you might edit the name to initials only for awhile, interesting though. TY

Peli..last name is EB's maiden name and her daughters current last name..I haven't heard that first name yet..but you never know..


eat~ sorry all, I know the above is OT..but I'm unsure of what is allowed in this thread..can someone clarify for me please ..tiptoeing out of thread..

 

[WilkesNC]

Ole' wilkes has to retire for the night,will re-join all u sluther's tomorrow,please have a pleasent night,and hopefully we'll have more answers tomorrow...goodnight

 

[Peliman]

Peli..last name is EB's maiden name and her daughters current last name..I haven't heard that first name yet..but you never know..

Yesssss! Scratching my chin...