Zahra Baker Search and Recovery Effort and Input

[tlcya]

ty pondering. MK was asking about previous addresses for EB both after AB and she came to US and before, when she was younger, growing up. I am not sure myself what is allowed. I think addresses are okay but peliman is right, we should stick to initials of naming who those houses belong to as they are not POIs

Please, do not leave. Your input is good. Just hoping to keep the thread limited to the map, search, sleuthing related items that would be useful in case LE or SARs folks are reading. Don't want you to feel unwelcome. That is not ANYONE's intention.

 

[LCoastMom]

NOTE STREET NAME FOR HES:

HUDSON ELEMENTARY SCH
200 Roy E Coffey Dr
Hudson, NC 28638

EB'S DAD IS MF

 

[writer7]

C C Wright Elementary
200 Cc Wright School Rd
North Wilkesboro, NC 28659


Mulberry Elementary
190 Mulberry School Rd
North Wilkesboro, NC 28659


North Wilkesboro Elementary
200 Flint Hill Rd
North Wilkesboro, NC 28659

NOTE STREET NAME FOR HES:

HUDSON ELEMENTARY SCH
200 Roy E Coffey Dr
Hudson, NC 28638

EB'S DAD IS MF

Are these schools connected to the dad somehow, are you saying?

The address I found for mid-2009 is in Hudson school district, it looks like on Google Maps.

I was trying to find the dad's address, in case I'm being confusing. Someone here asked for it.

 

[Clue Hopper]

Had it been confirmed that they did indeed find the glove with the smelly red goo in the bushes, near the old house they had moved from before Hickory?

 

[tlcya]

we are trying to determine at what exact time period (months - year) EB resided with her father MF with AB and Z immediately afer returning from Aus. I cannot recall but think they moved here in 2008? Wonder if Zahra didn't attend school here when she first arrived?

We are also interested in prior residences of EB before she went to Aus. and basically any area EB has ever lived. Sort of like looking for a stack of needles to find a specific needle?

sigh. I give up on that angle for now - there are too little date facts and too many addresses and too many moves and nobody knows when and argggg

Its time for me to move on. That one is makin me dizzy!

 

[LCoastMom]

Are these schools connected to the dad somehow, are you saying?

The address I found for mid-2009 is in Hudson school district, it looks like on Google Maps.

I was trying to find the dad's address, in case I'm being confusing. Someone here asked for it.

BBM - that was the address in Hickory or is that incorrect? (for M.F.)

This is the sch Zahra was enrolled in for 3rd grade:

HUDSON ELEMENTARY SCH
200 Roy E Coffey Dr
Hudson, NC 28638

The North Wilkesboro, NC 28659 were in the area where E. & D. F lives - that I realized was incorrect but had already been copied by others - (I'll go take them out of the post...)

 

[tlcya]

ty lCoast for trying to help me nail down the date when EB lived with MF and thereby the address. I appreciate your efforts. I think we hit a brick wall for now tho, lol at least I have.

ETA when in 2008 did the come to the US? I am now curious, where was Zahra enrolled during the gap? But that is not the discussion for this thread so I am giving up on that angle for a bit.

 

[sarx]

Ok, just a note.
Yes, LE looks at WS all the time. Tricia has said so countless times. Not just this case but a ton of others too. There is useful information on here, they know it. That is ultimately what this board is for is it not?
Another note, while the FBI, the SBI, the DEA and so on all have more resources, they do not have UNLIMITED resources. And they are just as human as everyone else. Again, this is not crime tv, this is not Criminal Minds or CSI NY or LA or Vegas or Singapore.
There are a whole lot of departments that do not have designated people for much of anything. The majority of LE depts are not the LA, NY, Boston types. They are tiny and not used to or prepared for anything like this. If they are smart they will look for help anywhere they can find it.
There has been more than one occasion where I have been running plans and had a good sam come to the CC and say "I jog this park everyday, can I help?" Ummm, yea, cuz that perspective is something I am just not going to get staring at a bunch of topos and trail maps. It is true some groups are very closed, and for their sake I hope they have the best of the best, because if not then they just cut out potentially a lot of good info.

 

[free2ride]

Was this the address?

1507 21st St NE

Hickory, NC

ETA oops first try was incorrect

1507 is EB's father's address. MF is listed in my local phone book at that address. She must have used her father's address for the booking info.

Hope that helps.

 

[w1df10wr]

1507 is EB's father's address. MF is listed in my local phone book at that address. She must have used her father's address for the booking info.

Hope that helps.

Have you contacted the site owner yet to be a verified local? If not, please do so.

 

[Sherbie]

Since you've been talking to them daily, sarx, we don't even have to guess about their reading this particular thread. If they didn't want the contact with you, they'd politely say to get lost -- their ongoing contact with you says that they are finding the information provided to be of interest.

 

[Paulette]

I've read they moved in with EB's father on Dec. 19, 2008, and they left in March 2009.

 

[Clue Hopper]

G'nite everyone. I am so tired and drained. I can tell things are beginning to jumble up in my head. I think I woke up that way this morning. Thank you all for helping me to see this area better and have a better perspective of where things are happening.

 

[tlcya]

Ok, just a note.
Yes, LE looks at WS all the time. Tricia has said so countless times. Not just this case but a ton of others too. There is useful information on here, they know it. That is ultimately what this board is for is it not?
Another note, while the FBI, the SBI, the DEA and so on all have more resources, they do not have UNLIMITED resources. And they are just as human as everyone else.
There are a whole lot of departments that do not have designated people for much of anything. The majority of LE depts are not the LA, NY, Boston types. They are tiny and not used to or prepared for anything like this. If they are smart they will look for help anywhere they can find it.
There has been more than one occasion where I have been running plans and had a good sam come to the CC and say "I jog this park everyday, can I help?" Ummm, yea, cuz that perspective is something I am just not going to get staring at a bunch of topos and trail maps. It is true some groups are very closed, and for their sake I hope they have the best of the best, because if not then they just cut out potentially a lot of good info.

Just My Own here, but also, the FBI does not have their behavioral unit down there with a penelope who is just glued to a bank of computers for seventy two hours like on TV IYKWIM. They are technological, they do use interenet resources and why wouldn't research lots of avenues for shortcuts? Makes total sense to me.

Out here has become a big area for research in criminal cases, be it searching or gathering evidence (social networks, serialkiller site letters, etc), etc. The internet is a resource, like any other, so I get to be a sort of resource.

 

[Kamille]

EB went to South Caldwell HS which is right on Hickory close to Dudley Shoals Rd if that helps.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?rlz=1T4G...l high school&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl

Her mother Sylvia had 5 addresses in Granite Falls and 2 in Hickory before her death in 2006 I believe.

Sounds like this general area has been very familiar to EB for most of her life.

MOO

 

[sarx]

Ok, so it appears that they have found "something" along the bank of the Upper Little River near the intersection of Dudley Shoals Rd. and Burns Road.
We also know that the prosthetic and a bone (unconfirmed if it is connected to Zahra's case so far) were found near the side of the road on Christie Road.
Were there confirmations on where else Elisa Took them?

What are some of the possible routes from Hickory that would include these places?

I am thinking that there might be more out there as it certainly seems to be "scattered" along a route, just not sure what route yet!

She's still up on NCMEC, so she's still not been found.

 

[tlcya]

EB went to South Caldwell HS which is right on Hickory close to Dudley Shoals Rd if that helps.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?rlz=1T4G...l high school&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl

Her mother Sylvia had 5 addresses in Granite Falls and 2 in Hickory before her death in 2006 I believe.

Sounds like this general area has been very familiar to EB for most of her life.

MOO

I love you Kamile, that is exactly the sort of things I want to know, time period, area of familiarity, address or general area therein! ty

 

[sarx]

Since you've been talking to them daily, sarx, we don't even have to guess about their reading this particular thread. If they didn't want the contact with you, they'd politely say to get lost -- their ongoing contact with you says that they are finding the information provided to be of interest.

I don't think LE anywhere needs me or anyone to contact them to tell them where to look, I think it's just starting to become habit for them. Tricia has set up a very good fact based site where LE can come and not have to weed through a bunch of rumors and social chit chat like so many other sites. Like TLCox said, WS is becoming a tool for them, sometimes a very useful one.

 

[writer7]

Thank you LCoastmom, frre2ride, paulette & Kamille. Kamille, do you have those addresses for her mom? She was close to her mom, she said.

Here is someone's map that has some addresses for her -- EB -- that I hadn't seen mapped earlier.

I'll put together the arrest record addresses I've seen in date order! Y'all let me know if that's already common knowledge. I could do something else

eta: a link would be nice

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=104702944048224668931.0004925b16f6302ffba91

 

[cleo612]

Ok, just a note.
Yes, LE looks at WS all the time. Tricia has said so countless times. Not just this case but a ton of others too. There is useful information on here, they know it. That is ultimately what this board is for is it not?
Another note, while the FBI, the SBI, the DEA and so on all have more resources, they do not have UNLIMITED resources. And they are just as human as everyone else. Again, this is not crime tv, this is not Criminal Minds or CSI NY or LA or Vegas or Singapore.
There are a whole lot of departments that do not have designated people for much of anything. The majority of LE depts are not the LA, NY, Boston types. They are tiny and not used to or prepared for anything like this. If they are smart they will look for help anywhere they can find it.
There has been more than one occasion where I have been running plans and had a good sam come to the CC and say "I jog this park everyday, can I help?" Ummm, yea, cuz that perspective is something I am just not going to get staring at a bunch of topos and trail maps. It is true some groups are very closed, and for their sake I hope they have the best of the best, because if not then they just cut out potentially a lot of good info.

I am sure that this pretty much goes without saying, but...

I seriously doubt that such large national entities as the FBI, or even the state SBI, would have local knowledge and perspectives of where local dump sites might be located.

For this reason, local knowledge and input can be invaluable and would logically be a very valid reason why LE from many jurisidctions would be perusing sites/threads such as this one.

Just my thoughts and to add to what sarx stated in her post above.