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oceanblueeyes said:
I really don't GS. It actually wouldn't be this neat looking imo. Especially if the perps had tried to remove it and I don't think there was thoughts of that or time to even think about it.

Imo this may have been a bullet that passed through one of the girls' bodies and lodged itself in the tree that was most likely in the line of fire behind where one of the girls stood when being shot.

I have seen LE widen out some around the area when retrieving bullets that have become embedded in walls or outside areas such as a tree line, fencing, etc. They do this so they can have the exact angle of the bullet as it entered the stationary object.

To me these weren't careful killers. They left bullet casings behind at the scene.

I do wonder now since they did decide to release that a Glock 40 was used if the other weapon used is not commonly owned either. With only around 55 people even having a Glock in this area shows it is not that common to have imo.

I think they are withholding the other weapon caliber so when they do an inventory on these others that have not come forward yet, OSBI will be asking them what other type of weapons they own.

imoo
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But Ocean, those 55 people were only the ones they found names for by going to gun dealers and pawnshops so that's not helpful if the killer obtained the gun from out of the County or State.

I obtained two firearms given to me by a family member of a deceased person, nothing would track the weapons to me.
 
Has anyone checked the county arrest records today?
I not saying go there now... I was trying too then got bumped from WS & it took me awhile to get back on. So don't take the chance.. Iwas just wondering. :confused::confused:
 
Tom'sGirl said:
But Ocean, those 55 people were only the ones they found names for by going to gun dealers and pawnshops so that's not helpful if the killer obtained the gun from out of the County or State.

I obtained two firearms given to me by a family member of a deceased person, nothing would track the weapons to me.
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Well no matter how it was obtained it is now out there that it is a Glock 40 so I am sure OSBI are having new calls on this new information. More leads are a great thing.

They are going in the right direction though TG. Now lets see why some of these people didn't come in and cooperate with OSBI to assist them in ruling out their weapon.

imoo
 
GetSmart said:
Has anyone checked the county arrest records today?
I not saying go there now... I was trying too then got bumped from WS & it took me awhile to get back on. So don't take the chance.. Iwas just wondering. :confused::confused:
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Arrest for whom?

Was there supposed to be an arrest?

imoo
 
Good evening all. Been away for a few days. Got on and read all the pages regarding the rumors, etc. Amazing..
Sheza, thanks for keeping us posted and for going out to the casino. You and the other locals are doing an amazing job of keeping this case alive.
I just called my daughter at the news station in okc to ask if they'd heard anything about the PP rumors. They hadn't, but her producer just called some people at okfuskee county. One person said that while he couldn't comment, if they had heard about it is was probably true. They are prepared to run a story once they have verified the rumors.
 
There is a whole group of people out there that no matter what... they are not going to even try to understand why they were doing this..

Example of statements posted on other forums
The ACLU will take care of it once someone calls them.
This sort of thing HAS been ruled unconstitutional before
You can have my gun when you get a warrant!!
Since there is no legal requirement to register a gun in Oklahoma my answer would have been "get a warrant". This way you could not be charged with lying to the LEO.
 
GetSmart said:
There is a whole group of people out there that no matter what... they are not going to even try to understand why they were doing this..

Example of statements posted on other forums
The ACLU will take care of it once someone calls them.
This sort of thing HAS been ruled unconstitutional before
You can have my gun when you get a warrant!!
Since there is no legal requirement to register a gun in Oklahoma my answer would have been "get a warrant". This way you could not be charged with lying to the LEO.
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Yep GS, it's a hot topic right now!

Police tell owners: 'We're inspecting your guns'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72906

On the forums page for the Oklahoma Shooters Association, the readers were even more alarmed.

"Why don't they just test fire all the .40 cal handguns in Oklahoma? Yeah, that's the ticket," said one person. "I hate to perhaps sound callous about the tragedy, that's not my intent at all, but this is some of the goofiest stuff I've ever heard of."

"What the OSBI stupidly did was ensure that, if the real murderer still has the murder weapon and got one of these letters, he will now WITHOUT DOUBT destroy it POST HASTE," said another.
 
Further clarification. The tv station called and woke up the okfuskee county sheriff. He said "you've heard that?", you need to call someone else (didn't get name). They did and were told they needed to talk to Jessica (Brown..presumably?). They tried to reach her but she didn't answer.
 
wasn't the task force using a room at the courthouse & is it still in use? i would think reporters & other inquiring minds could learn a lot by watching the activity there..... stragetic placement is everything!

this has dragged on too long & i hope it's resolved soon; i cannot help hoping family members are not involved that would make it all the more tragic.
 
Tom'sGirl said:
Yep GS, it's a hot topic right now!

Police tell owners: 'We're inspecting your guns'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72906

On the forums page for the Oklahoma Shooters Association, the readers were even more alarmed.

"Why don't they just test fire all the .40 cal handguns in Oklahoma? Yeah, that's the ticket," said one person. "I hate to perhaps sound callous about the tragedy, that's not my intent at all, but this is some of the goofiest stuff I've ever heard of."

"What the OSBI stupidly did was ensure that, if the real murderer still has the murder weapon and got one of these letters, he will now WITHOUT DOUBT destroy it POST HASTE," said another.
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IMO this idea was not only unconstitutional but a waste of money and time and would certainly encourage the killer(s) to dispose of weapons if they haven't already done so. OK is a big state with a lot of gun owners; testing 60 weapons would be considered a drop in a bucket. I could be completely wrong, but I just don't think it was kids who borrowed Daddy's weapon. IMO the killer(s) was an adult.

"Lists" can be scarey. (Check out the honest citizens who are on the TSA no fly list.) If an honest gun owner refuses to have a gun tested, is he/she going to be investigated because they insisted on their rights?
 
Trino said:
IMO this idea was not only unconstitutional but a waste of money and time and would certainly encourage the killer(s) to dispose of weapons if they haven't already done so. OK is a big state with a lot of gun owners; testing 60 weapons would be considered a drop in a bucket. I could be completely wrong, but I just don't think it was kids who borrowed Daddy's weapon. IMO the killer(s) was an adult.

"Lists" can be scarey. (Check out the honest citizens who are on the TSA no fly list.) If an honest gun owner refuses to have a gun tested, is he/she going to be investigated because they insisted on their rights?
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I don't think it was unconstitutional. The letter sent out was a request. They didn't come knocking on everyone's doors confiscating their Glocks. They didn't even take the weapons when the cooperative people showed up and let them test fire their guns.

To me this is no different when LE requests that a group of citizens come forward and give their DNA samples so they can be ruled out of a certain crime the police are investigating.

These 15 no shows may have a valid excuse why they did not bring their weapons in to be test fired but maybe one of them does not have a valid excuse.

I am glad to see that they are continuing to think of everything that they can think of to advance this case.

My husband is a large collector of both handguns and long guns and he said he would have no problem with having any of them test fired by LE if they should request it because he has absolutely nothing to hide.

If one of them cannot produce the weapon in their name as the other 5 did that sold their weapons to someone else and provided those names to LE, then yeah, they will be investigated closely.... as they should be imo.

imoo
 
Okie ties said:
Further clarification. The tv station called and woke up the okfuskee county sheriff. He said "you've heard that?", you need to call someone else (didn't get name). They did and were told they needed to talk to Jessica (Brown..presumably?). They tried to reach her but she didn't answer.
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I'm sorry I must be slow today ...heard what?? About Peter you mean
 
GetSmart said:
I'm sorry I must be slow today ...heard what?? About Peter you mean
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LOL, maybe I am too.

I thought he was talking about the roadblock and the sending out of the request letters on the gun by OSBI.

imoo
 
Tom'sGirl said:
Yep GS, it's a hot topic right now!

Police tell owners: 'We're inspecting your guns'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72906

On the forums page for the Oklahoma Shooters Association, the readers were even more alarmed.

"Why don't they just test fire all the .40 cal handguns in Oklahoma? Yeah, that's the ticket," said one person. "I hate to perhaps sound callous about the tragedy, that's not my intent at all, but this is some of the goofiest stuff I've ever heard of."

"What the OSBI stupidly did was ensure that, if the real murderer still has the murder weapon and got one of these letters, he will now WITHOUT DOUBT destroy it POST HASTE," said another.
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I remember Albert saying that the type of weapon should be revealed. At the time I disagreed with them, now I am not so sure I do.

By putting the .40 caliber weapon used out there it will create new call ins and leads to pursue imo.

It wont matter if the gun is registered or unregistered. The main thing is if someone knows someone in that local area that possesses one then it raises the chances now that they will call in and tell them who.

imoo
 
GetSmart said:
I'm sorry I must be slow today ...heard what?? About Peter you mean
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Yes, I think Okie Ties is talking about calling the local media to confirm the rumor that Vickie went to LE with her concerns about Peter's involvement, and the answer the local media received from LE.
 
evelyn24 said:
Yes, I think Okie Ties is talking about calling the local media to confirm the rumor that Vickie went to LE with her concerns about Peter's involvement, and the answer the local media received from LE.
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If the media was tipped off and I have no doubt they were on the rumor going around then they would know that the local police wouldn't be the one to arrest him but that would be done by OSBI who is heading up the investigation.

I wonder why they just didn't call OSBI first and if OSBI didn't answer then the media would be bugging OSBI constantly until one of them made a statement one way or the other.

imoo
 
It is interesting about the tree. Sure looks like someone dug out a bullet to me. It may or may not have anything to do with the case, but that is what it looks like.

We do know they were looking for additional bullets so it would make sense. Maybe they missed this one and someone else spotted it for them later. If not, then LE should be informed about it. Maybe someone just spotted it and didn't tell them.

Still no confirmation on PP being called in?
 
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